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eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 07:43:06
August 03 2009 07:42 GMT
#1
Note: This thread is not for the discussion of where or how to download music, but of the news article, and opinions of it.

So yeah, a student gets caught downloading and sharing music, and is ordered to pay $675,000 -- if this charge passes, he says he will file for bankruptcy.

Article


He has admitted to downloading hundreds of tracks -- but the case is only for the 30 he was caught sharing (dumb move on his part).

But anyways, I was wondering what you guys think of this case and of pirating music in general.

30 tracks of music is basically equivalent to shoplifting a pair of jeans (price wise) -- although you wouldn't get in too much trouble for the jeans now would you?

Although obviously, copyright laws are behind licensed music so the situation isn't really the same -- that being said, do you think it's right for artists or record companies to destroy someone's life for a petty crime, even if it's just to set an example?

Pirating music is a problem, especially with millions doing it (even though big name albums do sell a lot, that doesn't justify stealing music). But do you think there is a better way to combat it instead of fines?

mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
August 03 2009 07:45 GMT
#2
the fine is absurd
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
August 03 2009 07:48 GMT
#3
On August 03 2009 16:45 mahnini wrote:
the fine is absurd


yeah, but I guess they want to make an example
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Irrelevant
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2364 Posts
August 03 2009 07:48 GMT
#4
Fine is fucking retarded. I've gotten probably 10k songs from the net, what are they going to sue me for a 3rd world country?
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 03 2009 07:48 GMT
#5
It's because he was the only one of many stupid enough to actually fight the charges and try to justify it with some bullshit.

I'm glad the arrogant prick got shat on.
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
August 03 2009 07:50 GMT
#6
He should sue the record companies right back for $675,000,000 on account of ruining our youth by making tv stations and radios play terrible music 95% of the time.
Let _them_ go bankrupt, nobody needs them and their millionaire-puppet-"artists".
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
August 03 2009 07:52 GMT
#7
if i were ever taken to court and sued 30k per song for 600k i'd just bust out the 1tb external and let them lay it on just to prove a point. or maybe i'm just crazy, who knows?
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
August 03 2009 07:54 GMT
#8
This is disgusting
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
August 03 2009 07:54 GMT
#9
I write music, and I am against "sharing".
I find that most people who are for it, just want to justify not paying.
My wife, and my brother in law, both of who I respect very much, happen to dissagree. It's someone else's time, effort and ideas. I'm essentially a socialist and think lots of things should be public property, but since I live in America and have to pay to eat and drive and do anything- damn right I think Music should have the same costs. In a better system, maybe not though.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
SkY)CosMoS
Profile Joined July 2006
Dominican Republic106 Posts
August 03 2009 07:54 GMT
#10
I saw this few days ago, I couldn't fucking believe it. Ridiculous.
I don't know the whole story by jaw dropped when all this kid did was download music... something EVERYONE that I know, that has a computer has done.
Do it beautifully
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
August 03 2009 07:58 GMT
#11
Allowing people to download your music is the fastest way to spread your name =)

Then you get fans -- who actually buy your albums, and go to your concerts.


^That's a positive way to look at it -- (not that I stand by it)

konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
August 03 2009 07:59 GMT
#12
oh shit
POGGERS
m4gdelen4
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
August 03 2009 08:04 GMT
#13
I buy almost only all of my music. Sometimes when I'm checking out a new band I'll download a couple albums, and if I like it, I'll burn it to disk until I get around to buying it.
it does to blue what blue does to you
balrog
Profile Joined October 2008
United States101 Posts
August 03 2009 08:05 GMT
#14
i am not a lawyer but can this guy even file for bankruptcy if he has a civil judgment against him for this?
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 03 2009 08:10 GMT
#15
shit happened ...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Deleted User 37864
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
780 Posts
August 03 2009 08:11 GMT
#16
How did he even get caught?
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
August 03 2009 08:12 GMT
#17
On August 03 2009 17:11 scyper wrote:
How did he even get caught?


I would assume he tried to upload and share the music -- that's how they catch people.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
August 03 2009 08:17 GMT
#18
selling music only cheapens and diminishes it. music should be free for everyone

musicians that truly enjoy making music release it for free in their spare time, rather than charging people and making a job out of it. making great music and interacting with great musicians is the reward
HEY MEYT
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
August 03 2009 08:19 GMT
#19
On August 03 2009 17:17 JohnColtrane wrote:
selling music only cheapens and diminishes it. music should be free for everyone

musicians that truly enjoy making music release it for free in their spare time, rather than charging people and making a job out of it. making great music and interacting with great musicians is the reward


well if you make great music your going to reap the benefits eventually.

i'd actually be curious if music artists would make more or less money if tomorrow, music was no longer able to be pirated.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 08:24:50
August 03 2009 08:20 GMT
#20
On August 03 2009 17:17 JohnColtrane wrote:
musicians that truly enjoy making music release it for free in their spare time, rather than charging people and making a job out of it. making great music and interacting with great musicians is the reward


I call bullshit. I think most artists that get paid enjoy making music too; besides it gives them an incentive to continue doing music

And yeah, while the fine is gigantic, I guess they want to set an example. Downloading and sharing copyrighted material is illegal. What are people so upset about? Everyone knows this but tends to think that they are excluded or not doing anything wrong.

On August 03 2009 16:54 cUrsOr wrote:
I write music, and I am against "sharing".
I find that most people who are for it, just want to justify not paying.


Word. People who don't want to pay aren't usually the ones who are actually making all the content (music, movies, games etc) these leeches wanna get for free.

I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
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