• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:39
CEST 13:39
KST 20:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-69SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64
StarCraft 2
General
https://www.facebook.com/Eco.Fuel.Reviews/ Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement!
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
u4gm Diablo 4: QoL Secrets for Faster Gameplay u4gm POE2 Frostbolt Build: A Powerful Boss Killer U4GM CFB 27 Guide: Why UTSA’s Offense Is So Danger Mutation # 538 Media Blackout
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ StarCraft 64 is coming to Philly at SC4ALL II
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 2v2v2v2 Tournament Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation General RTS Discussion Thread Diablo 2 thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Are High-Level Gamers more A…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4052 users

Student fined $675K for 30 music track downloads - Page 13

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 All
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
August 04 2009 12:53 GMT
#241
As a person who isn't insistent on MY GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO PIRATE and who doesn't feel that THE LAW IS THE LAW DAMN IT all I have to say is "hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..."

I hope the kid has fun with bankruptcy.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
mister.bubbles
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada171 Posts
August 06 2009 06:00 GMT
#242
On August 04 2009 07:02 Medzo wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 04 2009 06:57 mister.bubbles wrote:
I think there seems to be a lot of confusion in this thread.

The profits from the sale of CDs mostly go straight to the record label. The artist hardly sees any of them. A while back this used to work fairly well since recording equipment was ridiculously expensive and only a large and rich organization could afford to provide it. Consequently this is roughly how things would generally go:

The record label discovers and signs an artist
The label then pays for the band to record an album (which was very expensive at the time)
The label then sells the album, collects money and pays a small cut to the artist.

Unfortunately this system has become obsolete since the cost of quality recording equipment has plummeted and continues to drop at an astronomical rate. These days artist and aspiring producers and enthusiast are able to amass the gear necessary to make high quality recordings fairly easily (by which I mean a dedicated enthusiast with a normal job should be able to do so over a few years).

Here is how things are beginning to evolve into:

Bands with written material decide to make a recording for whatever reason.
The band then seeks out an enthusiast with a home studio or use their own equipment
The band pays to make the recording and then uses the internet and live shows for exposure
The band makes a profit at shows and selling merchandise

I think as the music industry starts moving this way things will be a lot better. Bands will have more creative control without a label holding a contract over their heads. The existence of musicians is guaranteed so small studios will always have a way to profit. As studios become smaller and more numerous the demand for sound engineers and producers will increase making this career option more viable. Everyone gets a chance to make at least a small profit while doing what they love be it playing, recording or producing music.

This brings me to my point. The concept of treating a recording as property only benefits record labels. The only purpose of a record label is to allow artists without vast sums of money to get a chance to make recordings and to promote the band. It no longer costs vast amounts of money to make a recording. The internet promotes artists far better than labels have ever been able to (in addition to evening the playing field between really huge bands and unknown bands in terms of exposure). Thus, having recordings be public property only hurts record labels and to some extent super popular bands like Green Day or Metallica.

SMALL TIME ARTISTS ONLY BENEFIT FROM GIVING AWAY RECORDINGS FOR FREE.
RECORD LABELS ARE GREEDY ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE CLINGING TO AN OBSOLETE SYSTEM THAT ALLOWED THEM TO PROFIT OFF OF BANDS.

This is just my opinion and I'm not sure how accurate my facts are, but I'm pretty sure this is mostly a correct assumption.


Your assumptions arent too bad except you seem to think that recording a song is the same as creating a record. Unless you plan to only sell digitally, its not the same. There is still a LARGE LARGE LARGE LARGE LARGE market for CDs and even records. Record companies are far from obsolete, for now.


I'm aware of the difference between recording songs and physically producing/marketing a record. If people bought CDs as much as they did then piracy probably would hurt artists. The market for CDs has been decimated by MP3 players and piracy though so the only people who are buying them are fanatics.

I also didn't mean that record companies are completely obsolete. I was referring more to the BIG labels such as Sony or Geffen. I think (hope) that small and independent labels will be able to flourish once the old reptilian giants have died out like they should.
http://808seppuku.bandcamp.com/ <---Quick! Go here!
Prev 1 11 12 13 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
KCM Race Survival
10:00
2026 Season 3 Week 6
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1061
LiquipediaDiscussion
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 105
CranKy Ducklings30
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft204
SortOf 145
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 22651
Shuttle 3929
Soulkey 891
Bisu 824
Jaedong 764
firebathero 601
Hyuk 462
Pusan 362
Mini 285
EffOrt 253
[ Show more ]
Light 185
actioN 184
Stork 167
Snow 152
Killer 147
Last 117
Larva 113
Rush 70
ZerO 59
ToSsGirL 53
Sharp 42
Hm[arnc] 41
Sacsri 38
Sea.KH 35
hero 33
zelot 23
HiyA 22
yabsab 18
sorry 18
Sexy 17
scan(afreeca) 11
Shine 11
Dota 2
The International50584
Gorgc17397
singsing2846
Fuzer 356
Dendi281
BananaSlamJamma139
KheZu72
XBOCT32
League of Legends
JimRising 247
Counter-Strike
fl0m2289
olofmeister1144
byalli428
Other Games
B2W.Neo395
Lowko231
crisheroes176
Hui .160
Liquid`LucifroN86
Livibee85
QueenE32
ZerO(Twitch)12
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick545
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 23
lovetv 11
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 48
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP9
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 14
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1287
Upcoming Events
PiG Sty Festival
21m
Serral vs Lambo
SHIN vs Rogue
PiGStarcraft204
OSC
1h 21m
Replay Cast
12h 21m
Escore
22h 21m
PiG Sty Festival
1d
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
ShoWTimE vs Zoun
CranKy Ducklings
1d 22h
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
herO vs Krystianer
Solar vs Cure
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
Maru vs Shameless
Reynor vs TriGGeR
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The Patches Monday
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-11
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
META DYMY #4
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.