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G-Dy
Profile Joined April 2008
Germany91 Posts
August 03 2009 08:20 GMT
#21
On August 03 2009 16:54 cUrsOr wrote:
I write music, and I am against "sharing".
I find that most people who are for it, just want to justify not paying.
My wife, and my brother in law, both of who I respect very much, happen to dissagree. It's someone else's time, effort and ideas. I'm essentially a socialist and think lots of things should be public property, but since I live in America and have to pay to eat and drive and do anything- damn right I think Music should have the same costs. In a better system, maybe not though.


You are basically right ... a good musician should get paid since he has to pay, too.

But you see, things like music or music are somehow important cultural goods and so it's understandable that people download music/movies if they cannot (or don't want) pay that much money.

Guess the biggest problem is actually to find the right middle. Obviously, if a student pay's more than lets say 200$ per month for music/movies, he is overdoing it somehow. And vice versa, if someone just consumes but never pays treats the artist behind the product not really fair either. Still, somewhat inside me is against the proclamation of the industry, that EVERY person who's downloading is a web-equivalent to a Thief.

And actually, if you think about it, it is also not in your interest as a musician that only a few people have the chance to listen to your music.

To cut a long story short, I don't think it's a problem of moral (what you never said, btw: it's completly random that i'm quoting you) but rather of the given structures.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
August 03 2009 08:26 GMT
#22
you know what else gives musicians incentive to make music?

passion
HEY MEYT
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 03 2009 08:26 GMT
#23
Usually you would get at least a warning for the first offense.

But really... 800 songs total? I mean that's a lot of pirating. And trying to put the blame on your family! Sure $675k is a lot of money, but seriously trying to pass the blame off like that is just disgusting.

Even though he's a total douche, the fine doesn't match the crime.
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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
August 03 2009 08:28 GMT
#24
its because piracy is so out of control they are trying to discourage people from doing it by slapping on huge fines and hope it deters ppl
HEY MEYT
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
August 03 2009 08:29 GMT
#25
This is the most rediculous thing I have ever heard in my life. How can thirty songs ever be worth that much money. These people are insane.

Although this reminds me of the southpark episode with piracy.

"Look what happens when you download music. Instead of Brittaney Spears getting the delux ultimate private jet with a hut tub, she can only afford the regular one now"
meow
CongoJack
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada417 Posts
August 03 2009 08:29 GMT
#26
Wow thats alot of money for just downloading music sucks to be him.
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
August 03 2009 08:30 GMT
#27
On August 03 2009 17:26 Mystlord wrote:
Usually you would get at least a warning for the first offense.

But really... 800 songs total? I mean that's a lot of pirating. And trying to put the blame on your family! Sure $675k is a lot of money, but seriously trying to pass the blame off like that is just disgusting.

Even though he's a total douche, the fine doesn't match the crime.


I know very kind people who have over 10,000 songs on their computers. They are music nuts, they download like mad and ironically -- they also have more store-bought albums than most people, and actually see their favorite bands in concert.
VegeTerran
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden214 Posts
August 03 2009 08:34 GMT
#28
at first i read 675$ and thought cranky! that's loads of money. poor sod... then I realised that it was 675k and it felt surreal. When will the major record companies just fade away and die I can't think of anything useful that they're doing. Legalized blackmail.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
August 03 2009 08:35 GMT
#29
On August 03 2009 17:26 JohnColtrane wrote:
you know what else gives musicians incentive to make music?

passion


Yeah of course but I don't see why the two should be mutually exclusive
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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
August 03 2009 08:36 GMT
#30
On August 03 2009 17:35 Foucault wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 17:26 JohnColtrane wrote:
you know what else gives musicians incentive to make music?

passion


Yeah of course but I don't see why the two should be mutually exclusive


because cds are too expensive :C
HEY MEYT
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
August 03 2009 08:39 GMT
#31
On August 03 2009 17:36 JohnColtrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 17:35 Foucault wrote:
On August 03 2009 17:26 JohnColtrane wrote:
you know what else gives musicians incentive to make music?

passion


Yeah of course but I don't see why the two should be mutually exclusive


because cds are too expensive :C


I definately do agree with this. Music is too damn expensive, now that is really ridiculous
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Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
August 03 2009 08:40 GMT
#32
On August 03 2009 17:36 JohnColtrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 17:35 Foucault wrote:
On August 03 2009 17:26 JohnColtrane wrote:
you know what else gives musicians incentive to make music?

passion


Yeah of course but I don't see why the two should be mutually exclusive


because cds are too expensive :C


Yes but also fucking Itunes charges 1$ per song. A FUCKING DOLLAR A SONG. What a rip-off
meow
cHaNg-sTa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1058 Posts
August 03 2009 08:41 GMT
#33
In China, it's pretty much openly accepted to the point that piracy is inevitable and at this point almost encouraged. Artists are aware of it and it actually helps them spread the music around much more easily since most people wouldn't even buy their music in the first place. They get bigger and usually benefit from this when more people show up to their concerts and also from sponsors. Now, I'm not promoting piracy, but just saying how it's not a completely disastrous thing for artists. If they know it's happening, they should at least take advantage/counter balance by going on tours.
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
August 03 2009 08:42 GMT
#34
Sure but the majority of artists probably hate pirates
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NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
August 03 2009 08:42 GMT
#35
--- Nuked ---
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
August 03 2009 08:44 GMT
#36
I seriously want to know what musicians think about sharing

all we hear is that the record companies sue sue sue. It's the musicians that create the music and should benefit from it, not corporate middlemen.
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
August 03 2009 08:44 GMT
#37
Let's have some fun this thread is sick I wanna take a ride on your hydralisk


Actually a lot of songs revolve around clever catch phrases and a nifty chorus.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
August 03 2009 08:45 GMT
#38
On August 03 2009 17:40 Probe. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 17:36 JohnColtrane wrote:
On August 03 2009 17:35 Foucault wrote:
On August 03 2009 17:26 JohnColtrane wrote:
you know what else gives musicians incentive to make music?

passion


Yeah of course but I don't see why the two should be mutually exclusive


because cds are too expensive :C


Yes but also fucking Itunes charges 1$ per song. A FUCKING DOLLAR A SONG. What a rip-off


1 dollar isnt free
HEY MEYT
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
August 03 2009 08:46 GMT
#39
I love piracy discussions
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Mah Buckit!
Profile Joined April 2009
Finland474 Posts
August 03 2009 08:46 GMT
#40
OP isn´t that wrong then. He´s only facing charges of uploading and sharing mp3s not downloading...

I think piracy sucks and I only download music to test if it´s any good, I don´t want shitty CDs all over my apartment. CD´s are not expensive, people just should start thinking that listening music is a hobby and not meant to be free.
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