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I don't understand why I keep losing.

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Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
June 26 2011 21:19 GMT
#1
This isn't a QQ thread, or an "I'm stuck in elo hell plz carry me out" thread.

I'm asking for help.

Long story short, I keep losing, and have no idea why. I queue up ranked, pick a hero to help team (most people don't like jungling, so I'll typically do that), typically have a strong early game, ward, counter-ward, gank, etc- and end with a good score and feel like I helped my team.

I don't *feel* like I'm playing any different than 5 months ago before I took my hiatus- I was hovering pretty consistently around 1750 elo. Now I just .... lose.

If there's anyone better who wouldn't mind playing some games with me, normal, ranked, whatever- to try and diagnose what the hell I'm doing wrong, I'd really appreciate it. Right now I'm just frustrated because it feels like I'm just getting trolled by my team every game, but there has to be something I"m doing wrong. =|
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
June 26 2011 21:22 GMT
#2
Download LoL Replays and upload some of your problematic games.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
June 26 2011 21:25 GMT
#3
It's probably your attitude tbh. I'm not sayin it's bad, but to rise in solo queue you need a ego the size of a small planet. You have to actually believe that you can win 5 vs 1. Most people hit a wall at a certain elo and recovering from that wall can take alot of time. The skillcap in this game is fairly low, I don't believe that knowledge is what makes you win games at that level because you will out-knowledge anyone and everyone untill at least 2.1k and even then those that do are few and far between.

The moment you stop believing that you alone can turn 4 idiots into a winning team is the moment your ELO will crash.
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
June 26 2011 21:27 GMT
#4
Alright, I'll upload this next one -- currently playing. I'll try and keep that in mind Hynda, I think you're right.
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 26 2011 21:38 GMT
#5
The key to winning solo ranked is being a good leader. You have to tell all the idiots on the team when to back because they're over extending. Know when you can take a baron or dragon or a tower because the other team is out of position to stop you. These small advantages snowball into winning a huge teamfight and getting further ahead. Years of RTS play should really help with your minimap awareness. You want to know where everybody is on your team and theirs and direct them through in game chat to victory.

That and realizing you're going to lose games. If you strive for perfection you're just gonna make yourself extremely unhappy because it's just not possible to be that good. You're going to have games where your carry doesn't know what last hitting is and has 1cs/min. You're probably going to lose those games as well. Kindly explain how to play the game properly while you get your ass handed to you to make yourself feel better.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 26 2011 21:38 GMT
#6
I find playing random ass champions helps. Jungle morde is always a good pick, because he is just so incredibly op. I had a counterjungle ap shaco who went 9-2 last night. You think he worries about elementz' tier list? No. He plays what he wants because he knows how to do it.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
June 26 2011 22:10 GMT
#7
On June 27 2011 06:38 Two_DoWn wrote:
Jungle morde is always a good pick, because he is just so incredibly op.

I was just about to say, the jungle morde is a pretty normal thing for me- I played it when I was around 1750, so I know the pick has nothing to do with my current loss streak.

Anyway, what's the best place to upload replays?

Also, I'm basically really ashamed of the last game I played. It was garbage, and a terrible example of what I'm talking about. In addition my build was terrible, looking at trying something different this time.
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
June 26 2011 22:12 GMT
#8
I'll see if I can get my friends 1450 account and duo queue with you.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
June 26 2011 22:19 GMT
#9
On June 27 2011 07:12 HazMat wrote:
I'll see if I can get my friends 1450 account and duo queue with you.

I'll be on again in about 5.5 hours if you'll be around then.
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
June 26 2011 22:21 GMT
#10
On June 27 2011 07:12 HazMat wrote:
I'll see if I can get my friends 1450 account and duo queue with you.


You could just use TheHazMat or DNA Styx. You should re-elo that anyway
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 26 2011 22:24 GMT
#11
If your problem was mechanics, you'd probably know that yourself. You also know how to fix it.

If your problem is abusing advantages: Push when your ranged DPS finishes IE, when your AP finishes Deathcap, abuse strong phases of certain champs (lvl 9 Ashe, lvl 6/11/16 casters etc). There's lots of stuff that would fit here.

If your problem is team coordination: Be talkative, but do not enrage your allies. This is pretty damn hard to do because you get matched with 4 random people and you have to figure out how to deal with them within the first couple of minutes but you can't mess up or else they will rage and you don't get a second chance. No idea how you learn this type of thing though aside from practice.

Take a short break after each loss.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 26 2011 23:53 GMT
#12
Also maybe everyone else got better

because they did
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
June 27 2011 00:12 GMT
#13
It might make people less careful when they see that you're on their team, now that you are even more famous.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
June 27 2011 00:35 GMT
#14
You took a long break and then came back and started losing.. my logic tells me that everyone else simply got better while you were gone.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 27 2011 00:46 GMT
#15
On June 27 2011 08:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Also maybe everyone else got better

because they did


I'm going to agree with 5HIT here; as the game gets older, eventually as a whole, the community learns and knows more about the game from the wealth of information out there.

Much like BW...when I first started it back in the late 90s I could win games....take a break for 10 years and what happens?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
June 27 2011 01:26 GMT
#16
On June 27 2011 09:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 08:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Also maybe everyone else got better

because they did


I'm going to agree with 5HIT here; as the game gets older, eventually as a whole, the community learns and knows more about the game from the wealth of information out there.

Much like BW...when I first started it back in the late 90s I could win games....take a break for 10 years and what happens?

what happened was unichan was born
:)
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 27 2011 02:08 GMT
#17
On June 27 2011 10:26 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 09:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 27 2011 08:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Also maybe everyone else got better

because they did


I'm going to agree with 5HIT here; as the game gets older, eventually as a whole, the community learns and knows more about the game from the wealth of information out there.

Much like BW...when I first started it back in the late 90s I could win games....take a break for 10 years and what happens?

what happened was unichan was born

In the late 90s?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 27 2011 02:21 GMT
#18
Unichan is 12. So late 90's is right before she was born, depending on your definition of late.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 06:20:57
June 27 2011 05:03 GMT
#19
Okay I'm on but chat is down so basically fuck



Edit:Yup just got trolled again 2 games in a row

New elo: 1507. I'm going to have to play like jiji to get out of this I think :X

edit edit: sorry, I lied

3 games in a row. 1495
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
June 27 2011 06:41 GMT
#20
Well there are also more trolls around because they think s2 is around the corner. Well trolls even out eventually, so take it in stride.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
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