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Yes, there are a few inactive players (myself included up to this post). I will probably give one of them a pressure vote until they post or a substantially better candidate pops up. Maybe I'm a bit naive or just inexperienced at this game, but none of the posts so far seem too scummy to me. | ||
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If annul did slip up and there are up to 5 members in a mafia family...does that mean we could potentially have 1/3 of the players as mafia with only 2 families? Since this is a punishment game in some sense, I think that there must be more difficulties than just the special scum powers. Having potentially 10 scum means that it'll be more dangerous to trust the people in PM circles than expected if we do get around to forming them. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how night 1 goes and play from there. | ||
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On February 25 2011 15:16 seRapH wrote: Do you seriously believe this? Do you really think annul would "accidentally" let slip how many mafia there are? I know its wifom but I'm more inclined to believe that there are more than 5 mafia. Two families... I have no idea where you came up with that. 2 families of five pretty much DOOM the town of twenty completely. Also no I don't actually believe icemac's mafia, but was happy to see the pressure rising on him. I was not, however, pleased with the lack of reaction he gave. Icemac, please prove me wrong this game and don't be useless. This is my second game and I really have no idea what to expect... I've read somewhere that there could be games with competing mafia families, but I guess that not a common occurrence here. As far as the "slip" goes, I guess it really is going to be wifom. If that gave away too much information (as to spoil the game), one of the mods could have potentially edited it out. But now that so many people have seen it, any modifications would be extremely suspicious. As a general rule, it is probably true that scum lie a lot. But even 5 mafia members seem like a good approximation (if 10 is too much), although it is definitely safer to assume that 5 is the lower limit of the number of scum. | ||
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On February 28 2011 09:04 Ser Aspi wrote: god what a mess. I go away for the weekend and this is what's happened? How did we ever get annul Lets break this down and look at it objectively. 1. We lynch annul. 2. Mafia are incapable of getting the lynch off of annul. This means they do not have players who are prominent or have a lot of influence. 3. Suspicion turns on the most prominent players who are active and have influence. Logic does not compute. We should be targeting the INACTIVES, or the fakers at least because they would be the ones who could not get the lynch off annul. But no of course not you have to go for the most prominent people on the off chance that annul might have been bussed. Why the hell would mafia deliberately sacrifice a member on day 1 when they have an assured green lynch normally. Town cred is really not that important. Shut up with the conspiracy theories. Yes LSB/etc might be mafia. But what is more likely. LSB/Barundar, PROMINENT PEOPLE, are scum, or joe2 posts is scum? Simple solutions work best. Granted LSB has a bit of a negative influence on the town because he keeps trying to hype himself up to absurd proportions far out of alignment with what he did, seriously hes like a professional marketer, but that's not remotely worthy of a lynch. How about this. I got someone better. ##vote: jbright Why? He only has 4 real posts, a dodger vote, and he likes to talk nonsense and ignore the big arguments. You reference multiple times how newbie you are. Gee, why would you do that. I saw this a lot on other mafia sites and guess what, scum almost every time. Townies wouldnt need to do that, but scum sure might. Next, what have you actually said. WAit, I got it. NOTHING. In your several paragraphs you have written absolutely nothing zilch nada of value. You pressure vote some safe inactive lynch and dont take a stand, note that you are inactive very early on, and don't do anything about it. Inconsistency much? You don't take sides, you dont have an opinion that means anything, and you dont really care about whats going on. It's like you're off in your own little la-la-land aka scum irc channel chortling. Half of your "contribution" involves hypothesizing about some fantasy where there are two mafia teams lol and maybe a mod edit or something but you dont really know? That alone doesnt mean enough, you could just be stupid, but with everything else, it aint looking good brodooski. You then do absolutely nothing with your vote today. You dont take a standard, you dont take a side, you just say "HRM I DUNNO ILL VOTE THIS GUY CAUSE I DONT KNOW AND DONT CARE ABOUT THE TOWN TO WANT TO KNOW" To top it off I looked at the last game you played, orgah mafia. You were a town so far as i can tell with those screwy rules, and none of these habits showed up. You posted decisive stuff man. You didnt bullshit about how new you are. You didnt make excuses. But now you are. Guess why? Cause you're scum Here are some portions from his town play: + Show Spoiler [orgah] + On February 12 2011 10:56 JBright wrote: Whoa there. Don't know if those are just part of your characters, but you don't have to start accusing people as mafia just because of it. A character and someone's alignment should be completely separate things (at least that's what I think), so no need to jump the gun. Hmm, so far the votes are still looks to be pretty distributed other than Zerroth. Unless something drastic happens within the next 7-8 hours, he will probably be lynched. I guess I'll just vote for someone who is inactive but still have no votes yet. Vote: Insanious On February 13 2011 03:31 JBright wrote: I've thought about the different alignments for twins as well, but it will be hard to determine anything, other than suspicious play, until the first night is over. The activity so far in this game has come in waves...a whole bunch of posts in a short period and then nothing for a few hours. I'm still curious as to why Coagulation didn't put down a vote. Several players' votes were discounted (late or wrong format) but they at least tried. A second day without votes would mean a modkill, so I'll be looking closely at those people for the second day. On February 14 2011 08:23 JBright wrote: It's been surprisingly quiet for this day cycle. That makes the voting a bit harder. Since the first set of modkills can potentially happen tonight, I'll try to vote for someone who has a counted vote for day 1. Hmm, the OMGUS votes from beefy and thefluffyone seems kinda weird to me (they responded in a similar manner, but could be part of their characters). Since fluffy already has a vote, I'll go for beefy. Vote: Beefy187 Look how he actually takes a stance. Yes he has weird penchants but he doesn't vote the bandwagons and has the guts to state his own opinions and make real choices. Folks this is a guy trying to hide and pulling it off because you are so concentrated on trying to chop off any blade of grass that grows above the rest. ![[image loading]](http://hubba-u.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/professor_badass.jpg) Im coming for you scum. Jbright I would consider a pretty accurate analysis of my personality...indecisive and outspoken. Just to clear up the difference in play during Orgah, that was a game where we have to roleplay as a different character. I was supposed to complain about being mafia since I've been unlucky about drawing mafia for the past few games. Although I was more active during that game, I do believe a lot of my posts were questions and not analysis. On March 01 2011 12:56 GMarshal wrote: Alright my friend JBright you posted a little something that makes my blood boil, namely this Why would you do this? if you really are town then you are making us waste a lynch on you and you are wasting your vote, remember every townie we lynch brings us four deaths closer to lylo, so if what you are saying is your real attitude, then not only are you wasting your potential to analize or at least think, but you are wasting town KPs on you when we badly need them to kill mafia. I can undertand that the thread is intimidating, especially when you see people with 6000 posts posting these biblical length posts, but in the end your vote is worth the same yours is, all you have to do is think critically and post what you think. No one is demanding you be right, no one is demanding you post homeric epics that clearly prove who is scum, all I want you to do is use logic, and post what you come up with. Please if you really are town then dont make us sacrifice 4 townies (you + 3 night kills) because you don't want to think, or post your thoughts. Its ok to be wrong, its not ok to not commit. So I'll ask you JBright, what do you think of LD as a lynch? If you had to lynch someone within the next hour and your vote decided it who would die? Is there anyone who you think is certainly town, anyone you think has to be scum? Come on man, the game is no fun if you give up on us. I'm not giving up on the game, just keeping things in perspective. I consider myself better at thinking about the situation than doing psychoanalysis on forum posts; there are just too many subtleties in writing that I can't pick up. As to what I think about LD? I believe the main arguments against him by Foolishness were 1) not as active in a previous game and 2) inaccurate PMs. I'm not really sure how useful #1 is since people do do things outside of TL mafia and we cannot control that. I believe someone else already mentioned that most people show tendencies in their play, but an experienced(?) player such as LD should know better. #2 is more damning and his subsequent responses were not that strong. I suppose this is as close of a "read" as we've got on a player other than the back and forth between LSB and Barunder. If I had to go and pick someone to lynch under pressure, I supposed I would actually go with you, Ser Aspi, or gryffindor. I don't have anything to back it up since it's just a gut feeling, so this is just throwing my random FoS out there. Actually, it could just be a delayed omgus feeling for you and SA... There should still be ~4-6 scum left (depending on which numbers are used - bum's possibility states 4 while chaoser's possibility states 6) out of 19 remaining players, I don't feel ~66-80% is a good enough probability to be certain of who's town. Anyway, confirming town isn't as useful as hunting scum since it'll lead to worshiping. On February 16 2011 05:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote: TL Meta is based around roleclaiming, worshipping "confirmed" townies, and sheeping under an experience player LD could potentially be a good vote but I want to hear more from him to really decide if he's scum. | ||
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Don't really know why you keep posting that pic, but I kinda wish I could be a badass prof too. | ||
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On March 01 2011 19:14 Barundar wrote: @JBright if you are town, then you keep fighting. Popping up making 1 post defending yourself and then giving up isn't good enough. Why don't you start contributing instead? I lol'd Well, that was something I wrote right before I went to sleep, so I wasn't going to answer any more until later. Going back to SA's axis of evil, I already gave my (non)opinion on LD, but what about Seraph? Since I haven't been too active myself, I can hardly point my fingers at another low activity player. He seems to come on in spurts during each day/night cycle and didn't have very much to say except for his latest post. I didn't think too much of it, but I suppose the part about the icemac analysis seems strange. There was only ~20 min before the end of voting, so who was he really trying to convince? Won't be reading this until at least 9pm Eastern, so I'll place my vote now. Since I've already thrown around some FoS, might as well vote for one of them. I believe that townies tend to play more aggressive in terms of scum hunting, so I'll keep my vote off GM and SA for now. If LD does post before voting ends, I could be persuaded to vote for him. I'll just go with gryffindor since he's the third of my gut picks. ##Vote: Gryffindor | ||
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On March 02 2011 01:35 gryffindor wrote: I have actually been defending most of the bigger wagons to people in PMs. 1) why did you feel the need to use parenthesis here? I have only seen scum do that 2) why would you vote for the 3rd of your gut reads? That looks suspicious. @LSB 1) why are you defending LD? 2) you cut out the pimp shoes 3) I feel like you are fake-defending JBright to cover up your actual wanting to keep LD alive I actually use parentheses a lot in normal chat, so that's something that stuck with me. The three names I listed were not listed in order of suspicion and since I can't really be sure if my "gut feeling" on SA and GM are real or omgus, I went with you. I was hoping for a bit more development during this cycle while I was at work, but it's been quiet so far. With ~60 minutes left, I'm surprised there are 8 missing votes in the voting thread. Right now I'm in the lead while LD is close behind...wonder what happens if I switch my vote to him and we get a tie. Do we get a double lynch or do we get a predetermined result like Orgah? | ||
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On March 03 2011 11:06 gryffindor wrote: AFAIK it's 6 for jbright and 8 for seraph at first, i didn't like coagulation's unvote, but I do now From what I can tell, it's actually 5 for me since Ser Aspi forgot to unvote before switching over to seraph. I haven't seen a vote from seraph yet, so he might be modkilled instead. Do we have a plan B for the last 10 minutes? | ||
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Unvote ## Vote: JBright | ||
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I'll be even busier now and I've PM'ed one of the mods in case I need to be modkilled. Best of luck with the game town. | ||
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