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[Quicky] EMP Obsersers

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biomech
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany380 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 17:16:33
July 15 2010 16:55 GMT
#1
Hello, i usally lurk around in these forums but i think i can contribute a small detail here =)

Apperantly, some people think EMP doesnt uncloack anymore/just uncloacks DT's/whatever - that's not true! Just make sure to target properly!

SAME HEIGHT LEVEL / TARGETING UP CLIFF

[image loading]

TARGETING DOWN CLIFF

[image loading]

EMP target is ground-based, so clicking exactly on observers/banshees will MISS - i hope the image gives you an idea how to offset your target to be successful.

edit: bleh, typo in topic title... i feel bad. i'd like to see a mod straighten that out =)
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
July 15 2010 16:57 GMT
#2
Thanks for contributing x) Good info for some terran players
tathecat563
Profile Joined April 2010
United States96 Posts
July 15 2010 17:01 GMT
#3
I have lost to T's who EMP my DT before

It's a very useful trick.
Hi
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
July 15 2010 17:02 GMT
#4
does this distance change if there's a cliff or something?

thanks either way
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
July 15 2010 17:04 GMT
#5
On July 16 2010 02:01 tathecat563 wrote:
I have lost to T's who EMP my DT before

It's a very useful trick.

EMPing DT
A very useful talent toi have
^^ as the OP mentioned, the 3D graphics make flying units harder to EMP
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biomech
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany380 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 17:17:23
July 15 2010 17:04 GMT
#6
On July 16 2010 02:02 vicariouscheese wrote:
does this distance change if there's a cliff or something?

thanks either way


good call, i'll make a screenshot of that too and complete my OP.

edit: done. seems like a lil more offset is needed targeting down the cliff.
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
July 15 2010 17:31 GMT
#7
EMP already gives Terran a 50% HP lead on their entire army over the Protoss army if their EMPs are well placed. I really think revealing cloaked units as well is too much (especially since T has plenty of detection), it de-cloaking in BW was fine as it did not do nearly as much shield damage as it does now. Also in BW there was a clearly visible projectile from the Sci-Vessel when it fired the EMP, in SC2 the EMP is instantaneous with no projectile - making it basically impossible to dodge (unless you get lucky).

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link0
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 17:57:47
July 15 2010 17:48 GMT
#8
The anti-EMP trolls come out of their caves like clockwork.
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superman.
Profile Joined July 2010
65 Posts
July 15 2010 17:53 GMT
#9
On July 16 2010 02:31 SichuanPanda wrote:
EMP already gives Terran a 50% HP lead on their entire army over the Protoss army if their EMPs are well placed. I really think revealing cloaked units as well is too much (especially since T has plenty of detection), it de-cloaking in BW was fine as it did not do nearly as much shield damage as it does now. Also in BW there was a clearly visible projectile from the Sci-Vessel when it fired the EMP, in SC2 the EMP is instantaneous with no projectile - making it basically impossible to dodge (unless you get lucky).



that is not what this thread is about you jack ass go to a balance thread. this is about using it to detect observers, which with 3d graphics can be tricky
biomech
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany380 Posts
July 15 2010 17:54 GMT
#10
On July 16 2010 02:48 link0 wrote:
The EMP trolls come out of their caves like clockwork.


I had good intentions with that oO

Believe it or not, i'm actually a Protoss player! :D
n3mo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States298 Posts
July 15 2010 17:55 GMT
#11
On July 16 2010 02:31 SichuanPanda wrote:
EMP already gives Terran a 50% HP lead on their entire army over the Protoss army if their EMPs are well placed. I really think revealing cloaked units as well is too much (especially since T has plenty of detection), it de-cloaking in BW was fine as it did not do nearly as much shield damage as it does now. Also in BW there was a clearly visible projectile from the Sci-Vessel when it fired the EMP, in SC2 the EMP is instantaneous with no projectile - making it basically impossible to dodge (unless you get lucky).


shields regenerate mad fast, just retreat for a bit. remember plague back in BW? sending HP down to 1? thats a bit more than a 50% HP lead, and also not something you could dodge, as far as i know (aside from obviously avoiding/sniping the defiler).
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dogmeatstew
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada574 Posts
July 15 2010 17:55 GMT
#12
On July 16 2010 02:54 biomech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2010 02:48 link0 wrote:
The EMP trolls come out of their caves like clockwork.


I had good intentions with that oO

Believe it or not, i'm actually a Protoss player! :D

Not you, see the post above yours explaining the troll.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 15 2010 17:55 GMT
#13
On July 16 2010 02:31 SichuanPanda wrote:
EMP already gives Terran a 50% HP lead on their entire army over the Protoss army if their EMPs are well placed. I really think revealing cloaked units as well is too much (especially since T has plenty of detection), it de-cloaking in BW was fine as it did not do nearly as much shield damage as it does now. Also in BW there was a clearly visible projectile from the Sci-Vessel when it fired the EMP, in SC2 the EMP is instantaneous with no projectile - making it basically impossible to dodge (unless you get lucky).

i dont get this..
decloaking wasnt in Bw with emp..
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biomech
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany380 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 18:04:06
July 15 2010 17:58 GMT
#14
On July 16 2010 02:55 dogmeatstew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2010 02:54 biomech wrote:
On July 16 2010 02:48 link0 wrote:
The EMP trolls come out of their caves like clockwork.


I had good intentions with that oO

Believe it or not, i'm actually a Protoss player! :D

Not you, see the post above yours explaining the troll.


Yeah, i'm just saying... i didnt want to start a balance debate here. Just what my OP sais, a HOW-TO not a WHY DISCUSSION.

If people have a problem with EMP actually decloacking stuff, the Blizzard forums are the place to go! =)
SchAmToo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1141 Posts
July 15 2010 17:58 GMT
#15
Aren't... DT's like "one with the void" and thats why they're invisible?

How does an electromagnetic pulse stop you from being "one with the void" ?
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R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
July 15 2010 18:00 GMT
#16
On July 16 2010 02:31 SichuanPanda wrote:
EMP already gives Terran a 50% HP lead on their entire army over the Protoss army if their EMPs are well placed. I really think revealing cloaked units as well is too much (especially since T has plenty of detection), it de-cloaking in BW was fine as it did not do nearly as much shield damage as it does now. Also in BW there was a clearly visible projectile from the Sci-Vessel when it fired the EMP, in SC2 the EMP is instantaneous with no projectile - making it basically impossible to dodge (unless you get lucky).

EMP in bw drained 100% shields, in sc2 it deals a maximum of 100 damage to shields.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
biomech
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany380 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 18:18:50
July 15 2010 18:01 GMT
#17
(>°.°)>
FTemplar
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada70 Posts
July 15 2010 18:11 GMT
#18
I have a question about this, how long does EMP reveal cloacked units? I assume it's not permanent?
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biomech
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany380 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 18:17:44
July 15 2010 18:14 GMT
#19
On July 16 2010 03:11 FTemplar wrote:
I have a question about this, how long does EMP reveal cloacked units? I assume it's not permanent?


since this is a non-whining question, i'll return for this one xD

didnt measure the exact timing, but an observer will get cloaked again after approx. 5-7 seconds. enough time to kill it!
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
July 15 2010 18:15 GMT
#20
On July 16 2010 01:55 biomech wrote:
Apperantly, some people think EMP doesnt uncloack anymore/just uncloacks DT's/whatever - that's not true! Just make sure to target properly!


I guess I'm a little confused. Since when did people not believe that EMP de-cloaks.... It's always been this way as far as I know.
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