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AeonFlux
Profile Joined March 2010
Ukraine101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 18:37:13
May 15 2010 18:34 GMT
#1
But i win almost all games with terran in platinum.

If u need prove heres replay pack of all my fucken games. (12.15 Mb)

http://www.mediafire.com/?ygwkhijtgkn

vs Toss
I treied everything.
1. Maraderz push? just defend with zealots till void ray come.
2. Mass rines? killed by all.
3. Banshee? Void ray killes my base faster then i kill his base.
4. Tankz? Immortalz and void ray pwn all.

vs Zerg
1. Mass rines? banelings
2. Banshee? Muta
3. RInes+ravens? banelings+muta
4. Marauders? mass zergling.

etc

BUT
i win any game with terran just by spamming banshee.

so i wanna say that TvT sure is balanced and there just skill decides. but tvz and tvp is broken cas TWO FUCKING UNITS

1. void ray. why is was strengthen? it was good before pacth. now its IMBA.
2. Muta and banelings too strong.


BUT BEFORE PATCH i hadnt any problem with toss cas void ray was not so imba.
sure i had trobles with zerg but at least i pwned toss and terrran so i had good position in platinum.

btw i m 50 th place in platinum now
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
May 15 2010 18:37 GMT
#2
You seem to have forgotten the Viking and the Tank exist.
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
AeonFlux
Profile Joined March 2010
Ukraine101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 18:42:41
May 15 2010 18:41 GMT
#3
Viking die to muta. ALL NOW THAT.
marines can defend is game start but useless later.
also if he dosnt build muta viking are useless cas they need to land to attack and landed its worst unit in game (dies to roaches and stalkerz and to lings and to any unit)

viking can defend vs void ray but then toss killez u by land cas u have USELESS viknig when he has very cool void ray. also void ray can kill vikingz some times. (even not heated)
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
May 15 2010 18:43 GMT
#4
watch some replays http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=112991
but some common strats are

vs protoss marauder/marine/ghost/dropship
vs zerg hellions/marauders or ghost/marine/marauder (ghost used for sniping)
Darthturtle
Profile Joined May 2009
United States718 Posts
May 15 2010 18:45 GMT
#5
Do you ever get ghosts?

EMP the protoss units, and snipe the banelings. Grats, you just solved both your problems.
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
May 15 2010 18:47 GMT
#6
On May 16 2010 03:41 AeonFlux wrote:
Viking die to muta. ALL NOW THAT.
marines can defend is game start but useless later.
also if he dosnt build muta viking are useless cas they need to land to attack and landed its worst unit in game (dies to roaches and stalkerz and to lings and to any unit)

viking can defend vs void ray but then toss killez u by land cas u have USELESS viknig when he has very cool void ray. also void ray can kill vikingz some times. (even not heated)


Im sorry I cant follow your logic.
It consists of: Some units are better vs other units, therefore any unit I build is bad because he has a unit that is better than it.
Guess what, some of your units are better than others of his. So by your logic any unit he builds is bad because you have a unit that is better than it.

This is a shallow qq thread, I really shouldn't have replied to it.
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AeonFlux
Profile Joined March 2010
Ukraine101 Posts
May 15 2010 18:49 GMT
#7
WHAT?????? MARAUDER? when i make 5th marauder void ray alrdy come. how i kill void ray with 5 maraudez? sure i pushed him so i kill 4 zealots (not losing anything) but then void ray killed all my army.

helion marauder vs zerg is NOOBISH SHIT. muta just killez all.

okay i make EMP but then toss kileez me with 1/2 of his shield cas i lost all money for fucken ghost and ghost academy.

snipe banelings with ghosta?? AXAXAXAXAXA the most stuped advice i ever seen. they ll kill u before u time R two times
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
May 15 2010 18:49 GMT
#8
if you're looking for an all-around unit that kills every unit, you're going to have to change races...
boomer hands
Bair
Profile Joined May 2010
United States698 Posts
May 15 2010 18:50 GMT
#9
I am going to assume english is not your first language and pass on grammar comments.

Stop trying to build one unit comp to beat an entire race. It sounds like you are getting scouted and you are not scouting back. Aside from the marines + raven you mentioned, all those examples were your units getting killed by what counters them. It is meant to work this way.

In ZvT, put early pressure on with marauders/marines. If they get that expansion going and it is productive, you lose. Zerg is now a pure macro race, and the more you let the macro, the harder you get hit.

You need to scout more often and/or be more aggressive from the sounds of it. If I scout you going MMM and you give me 5 free minutes of building, I will have a nice mass of banelings to wipe out your investment. And since I have 2 bases and you have one, losing that ball puts you so far behind I can pretty much end the game how I want.
In Roaches I Rust.
TraumisT
Profile Joined April 2010
United States37 Posts
May 15 2010 18:53 GMT
#10
On May 16 2010 03:34 AeonFlux wrote:

BUT
i win any game with terran just by spamming banshee.

so i wanna say that TvT sure is balanced and there just skill decides. but tvz and tvp is broken cas TWO FUCKING UNITS

Skill is spamming 1 unit. seriously dude you can make a list for all of their units too and the counters you have for them
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
May 15 2010 18:55 GMT
#11
On May 16 2010 03:49 AeonFlux wrote:
WHAT?????? MARAUDER? when i make 5th marauder void ray alrdy come. how i kill void ray with 5 maraudez? sure i pushed him so i kill 4 zealots (not losing anything) but then void ray killed all my army.

helion marauder vs zerg is NOOBISH SHIT. muta just killez all.

okay i make EMP but then toss kileez me with 1/2 of his shield cas i lost all money for fucken ghost and ghost academy.

snipe banelings with ghosta?? AXAXAXAXAXA the most stuped advice i ever seen. they ll kill u before u time R two times


If you scouted protoss and he has 2 gas going for voidray just make a bunch of marines and tech to viking for long range or make 2 turrets. voidrays arent that hard to defend.

vs banelings if he is 1 base just make double wall in your base. late game you dont have a good counter except ravens missle or kite ( which is hard with infestors fungal on you)

Bair
Profile Joined May 2010
United States698 Posts
May 15 2010 19:01 GMT
#12
On May 16 2010 03:53 TraumisT wrote:

Skill is spamming 1 unit. seriously dude you can make a list for all of their units too and the counters you have for them


Making carriers is a useful skill toi have.
In Roaches I Rust.
Darthturtle
Profile Joined May 2009
United States718 Posts
May 15 2010 19:04 GMT
#13
On May 16 2010 03:49 AeonFlux wrote:
WHAT?????? MARAUDER? when i make 5th marauder void ray alrdy come. how i kill void ray with 5 maraudez? sure i pushed him so i kill 4 zealots (not losing anything) but then void ray killed all my army.

helion marauder vs zerg is NOOBISH SHIT. muta just killez all.

okay i make EMP but then toss kileez me with 1/2 of his shield cas i lost all money for fucken ghost and ghost academy.

snipe banelings with ghosta?? AXAXAXAXAXA the most stuped advice i ever seen. they ll kill u before u time R two times



Learn to make more SCVs. You can easily afford Ghost/Marine off one base. And then locate the shift key on your keyboard and learn how to queue up snipes.

And you sound like you're trying to win the game with just one single unit type. Get marines to back up your marauders. Get marines to back up your ghosts.

Learn to macro. You're allowed to build more than one or two barracks.
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
May 15 2010 19:05 GMT
#14
On May 16 2010 03:55 PaD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 03:49 AeonFlux wrote:
WHAT?????? MARAUDER? when i make 5th marauder void ray alrdy come. how i kill void ray with 5 maraudez? sure i pushed him so i kill 4 zealots (not losing anything) but then void ray killed all my army.

helion marauder vs zerg is NOOBISH SHIT. muta just killez all.

okay i make EMP but then toss kileez me with 1/2 of his shield cas i lost all money for fucken ghost and ghost academy.

snipe banelings with ghosta?? AXAXAXAXAXA the most stuped advice i ever seen. they ll kill u before u time R two times


If you scouted protoss and he has 2 gas going for voidray just make a bunch of marines and tech to viking for long range or make 2 turrets. voidrays arent that hard to defend.

vs banelings if he is 1 base just make double wall in your base. late game you dont have a good counter except ravens missle or kite ( which is hard with infestors fungal on you)




sry but against void rays what do i do if he cannons -> mass void ray spam?
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
yiff
Profile Joined April 2010
United States63 Posts
May 15 2010 19:08 GMT
#15
I'm assuming this is a troll thread from the sheer amount of times he swears and uses the nerd rage caps lock button. Seriously..if you're having this much trouble with this..SC2 is NOT the game for you.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
May 15 2010 19:09 GMT
#16
You just listed the units and named a counter for it. That's fucking stupid every unit has a counter.
Mix units to cover for others weaknesses man.
If he has void rays and you have marauders then increase marine production and get ghosts.
MadJack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Peru357 Posts
May 15 2010 19:11 GMT
#17
On May 16 2010 03:34 AeonFlux wrote:
BUT
i win any game with terran just by spamming banshee.

so i wanna say that TvT sure is balanced and there just skill decides. but tvz and tvp is broken


I "think" theres something wrong with those 2 sentences...

"Im terran. I lose to Protoss and Zerg, so those matches are imba, but since I can spam banshees and win in TvT, that match is totally balanced and full of skill"

lol
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Darthturtle
Profile Joined May 2009
United States718 Posts
May 15 2010 19:13 GMT
#18
On May 16 2010 04:05 ramen247 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 03:55 PaD wrote:
On May 16 2010 03:49 AeonFlux wrote:
WHAT?????? MARAUDER? when i make 5th marauder void ray alrdy come. how i kill void ray with 5 maraudez? sure i pushed him so i kill 4 zealots (not losing anything) but then void ray killed all my army.

helion marauder vs zerg is NOOBISH SHIT. muta just killez all.

okay i make EMP but then toss kileez me with 1/2 of his shield cas i lost all money for fucken ghost and ghost academy.

snipe banelings with ghosta?? AXAXAXAXAXA the most stuped advice i ever seen. they ll kill u before u time R two times


If you scouted protoss and he has 2 gas going for voidray just make a bunch of marines and tech to viking for long range or make 2 turrets. voidrays arent that hard to defend.

vs banelings if he is 1 base just make double wall in your base. late game you dont have a good counter except ravens missle or kite ( which is hard with infestors fungal on you)




sry but against void rays what do i do if he cannons -> mass void ray spam?


Void rays off one base, and he's going cannons? How's he going to push out to break a Marine contain? Just grab all the watchtowers and keep an eye on the edges of the map, then kill his rays mid-flight if he tries to go for your base. Void rays and cannons means he's probably broke and wont be able to tech colossus or templar too effectively.
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
May 15 2010 19:14 GMT
#19
On May 16 2010 03:45 Darthturtle wrote:
Do you ever get ghosts?

EMP the protoss units, and snipe the banelings. Grats, you just solved both your problems.


Yes, you can EMP protoss units. However, getting ghost tech to "snipe banelings" is the worst idea ever lol. It's too expensive and too ineffective. It's better to just get tanks and make a slow push.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
May 15 2010 19:17 GMT
#20
Why is anyone at all taking this mudak seriously lol
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