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On May 16 2010 04:34 Rathorne wrote:
5 Marines vs. 1 Void Ray?
LOL. That is hilarious. If its not charged, maybe. Once its charged your 5 marines mean nothing. Its not like the Protoss will simply allow the Void Ray to die to Marines. He'll move it back, hit/run and recharge shields.
The most success I've had against Protoss is trying to cheese them out by Reaper Rushing them. Otherwise, It's almost a for sure loss. (if they go Void Rays).
lol, the reason the only success you have is through cheesing is because you are too scared of using marine+ghost vs VR. I have made it to 1800+ plat playing only T, and 3rax vs VR is definitely in favor of the T (in fact, unless it is a map like Scrap Station, I think VR is one of the weaker toss openings).
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There is some epic logic in the OP.
"I can't defend against Void rays, so obviously they must be broken, otherwise I would automatically be able to stop them!"
Wait what`
Also, this is a blog, not a strategic discussion.
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Sure, I can do that.
Can someone please show me a few replays of Platinum Level players, Terran vs. Protoss. Where the Protoss Player goes VoidRays early on and loses to a Terran player?
Perhaps there is something I am missing, but I need some help to find a way to beat Protoss Void Ray openings.
Thank You,
Rathorne
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Considering the number of people still replying to this troll I think Im not the only one bored at work waiting for an install to finish or what not 
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On May 16 2010 04:25 Rathorne wrote:
I agree with Aeon. Void Ray's are OP. Period.
Please, don't tell me to counter with Marines. It doesn't work. The only unit the Terrans have that can effectively counter Void Rays (WITH Micro, so not just straight up) are Vikings. Which leaves you open to a strong ground timing attack by Protoss.
Also, it is extremely hard to scout Protoss and see if they are going VoidRays. A lot of the players simply Proxy their Stargate somewhere on the map and go to down.
Turrets are quite expensive, and put you in a defensive position. 2 VoidRays also crush a Turret and will be able to exploit any weak spots with easy and literally MELT your entire army.
Finally, the threat of VoidRays is so great that it forces me to make Vikings, which is bad if Protoss switches to Ground Pounding units. Or, decided to simply hold back and pump 3-4 Void Rays and simply overwhelm me because I did not cont to pump more vikings. Its a real pain in the butt.
Again, Marines are trash against Void Rays (fully charged, which is easy to do btw).
There's no kind way to break this to you. If voids are fully charged and in your base, you definitely fucked up somewhere.
I assume you scouted them going voids already. If not, then you've scouted them suspiciously missing tech while gassing hard or low on units. Or something. Because we're assuming you're making a token effort to see what they're doing, and not just waiting to lose.
So, seeing them going voids, you want to catch them before they can get a charge going, or kill them fast. The thing about Voids is that it's really hard to charge all the way to max just shooting marines. Engaging with a bunch of marines against uncharged void rays is so good for Terran. You don't need EMP or Stim or +1, even, but of course they help.
Now, damage control time.
Let's assume the rays are in your base and killing your good shit. This is terribad for you. You're essentially playing to split up all your buildings and float them in separate directions, so that after the voids kill off everything in one direction, they lose their charge moving on. Then you kill them with marines. Then you pray you can hold off the ground push that's coming for your expo. Make some bunkers, I guess.
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i m not scared to to mass marines vs void rays cas i did it many times and it dosnt work. btw marine and banshee are my favorite units.
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This is a horrible thread, and should not have received the attention it has...
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Ghost/Marine opening. I'll give that a try. Have not done that one too much.
Catch22. Come on bud. No reason to hate on me. I'm not just stating that Void Rays are OP because I lose to them. I just dont understand how to beat that P opening. Please help.
Also, I do at least 50% or better against T and I am able to beat Z about 80% of the time or more. Which is insane. In all honesty, I feel like T is too strong against Z, but perhaps I just haven't played against enough Z.
Currently I'm in the top 8, 1640 points.
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On May 16 2010 04:42 AeonFlux wrote:
i m not scared to to mass marines vs void rays cas i did it many times and it dosnt work. btw marine and banshee are my favorite units.
Thats cool, Whats your favourite food?
Seriously, if you want help, be polite.
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thats all stupid. void ray has 2.75 move speed and marine have 2.25 move speed so it cant catch void ray. also void ray has speed upgrade. also void ray can regenerate his shield when marine to regenerate need medivac.
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On May 16 2010 04:44 AeonFlux wrote:
thats all stupid. void ray has 2.75 move speed and marine have 2.25 move speed so it cant catch void ray. also void ray has speed upgrade. also void ray can regenerate his shield when marine to regenerate need medivac.
Seriously..SC2 is not for you.
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On May 16 2010 04:44 AeonFlux wrote:
thats all stupid. void ray has 2.75 move speed and marine have 2.25 move speed so it cant catch void ray. also void ray has speed upgrade. also void ray can regenerate his shield when marine to regenerate need medivac.
There's something called stim that makes voidrays without speed crumble.
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Does someone have a replay or two? I think that would help me quite a lot.
Thanks
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TossFloss
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On May 16 2010 03:34 AeonFlux wrote:But i win almost all games with terran in platinum. If u need prove heres replay pack of all my fucken games. (12.15 Mb) http://www.mediafire.com/?ygwkhijtgkn.......
You edit your post. You fix your spelling mistakes. You put some effort into proper style. Afterwards, I may consider helping you.
As my eyes scan through your minefield of misspellings, little explosions go off inside my head. ("treied" "i", "cas")
I don't care how English may not be your mother tongue. I've marked essays from impoverished Chinese grade schoolers whose writing, when contrasted with yours, reads like Shakespeare.
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when marine has stim its too late cas u alrdy lost all map control.
also good toss never allow u to catch him with stim so u ll just kill his sheilds when your rines lose much hp for nothing.
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On May 16 2010 04:46 TossFloss wrote:You edit your post. You fix your spelling mistakes. You put some effort into proper style. Afterwards, I may consider helping you. As my eyes scan through your minefield of misspellings, little explosions go off inside my head. ("treied" "i", "cas")I don't care how English may not be your mother tongue. I've marked essays from impoverished Chinese grade schoolers whose writing, when contrasted with yours, reads like Shakespeare.
learn russian and we can speak on very cool level
i can speak 2 languages when u can speak only one..
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Yes, but my English is decent enough, I think. Please help me Tossfloss.
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On May 16 2010 04:48 AeonFlux wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2010 04:46 TossFloss wrote:On May 16 2010 03:34 AeonFlux wrote:But i win almost all games with terran in platinum. If u need prove heres replay pack of all my fucken games. (12.15 Mb) http://www.mediafire.com/?ygwkhijtgkn....... You edit your post. You fix your spelling mistakes. You put some effort into proper style. Afterwards, I may consider helping you. As my eyes scan through your minefield of misspellings, little explosions go off inside my head. ("treied" "i", "cas")I don't care how English may not be your mother tongue. I've marked essays from impoverished Chinese grade schoolers whose writing, when contrasted with yours, reads like Shakespeare. learn russian and we can speak on very cool level i can speak 2 languages when u can speak only one..
Can't count english in there..becuase you can't really speak it :O
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NO but mens u musting of realizes that make many maradaraers and he make dieing before he void ray go pop becoys lol maradireers are imbalancing very
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