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No_eL
Chile1438 Posts
On May 16 2010 07:29 AeonFlux wrote: havent u see semi final of one of scbw leagues where flash didnt scout anything he just used his tactics (bunker rush/vultures) and destroyed toss? after 10 year of game development, and with alien multitask skills, he its a pro... Now u can win making the same, with no experience nor brain... Ask blizzard why. | ||
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Manbear
Canada306 Posts
On May 16 2010 07:08 AeonFlux wrote: all-in with 80% win chance much better then turtle with 20% chance for win isnt it?  says the guy who cannot win a single game vs toss and zerg | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On May 16 2010 07:31 Fruscainte wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but Flash pretty much only plays defensively and he's arguably the best Terran player in SC1, and won the OSL and got 2nd in the MSL. So I don't think playing defensive is "noob", and if you think playing a bit defensive and passive and letting your opponent make the first move so you can exploit it, you're the noob. You can't be on the offensive and winning 100% of the time in every game, there's no unit that can do that and there's no possible way to do that outside of Copper league. Stop thinking so. Change your mindset or go to another game. A good player knows how to play passive and aggressive. You're declaring the correct counters to your issue "noobish", and are calling any and all reasonable ideas that EVERYBODY uses "noobish" So I guess everybody is a noob except you. And I highly doubt he's in Platinum. And if he is, so what? you can reach platinum just 1a'ing your way to victory. You win all 5 placement matches and you get to platinum. You know how easy it is to win all 5 placement matches? Plus his own words speak for themselves. "I banshee spam TvT, and I win all the time. So that matchup is balanced and skillful. But in the matchups where I can't mass one insta-win unit, and I actually need to think, it's imbalanced." | ||
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AeonFlux
Ukraine101 Posts
mby i should switch to toss or zerg (and porbably i will do) but i think i can pwn even with terran but i hops blizzard will fix void ray. | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
And void ray is fine FFS. Stim Marines, tada, dead VR's. | ||
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
On May 16 2010 07:37 AeonFlux wrote: i got top10 plat sometime with marine push abuse but now its not so simple cas toss dosnt make fast immortal now.. and zerg dosnt make fast expand.. mby i should switch to toss or zerg (and porbably i will do) but i think i can pwn even with terran but i hops blizzard will fix void ray. + Show Spoiler [flame] + "top 10 plat" Get over yourself. top 10 is horrible in 99% of all cases. Honestly after so many pages of replies I don't think I can say anything that hasn't been said already (and if I did you'd call it noobish. P.S.: #1 plat before you wave your horrible english around). Edit: AND I play Terran | ||
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j3d
United Kingdom34 Posts
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No_eL
Chile1438 Posts
with terran u can do the same stupids rush bos.. a little harder, but u can.. play in a smart way, get eco, scouting, multitask, high apm, etc... just doesnt make sense right now. Are deep problems in the programming dimension of the game.. all its too fast, the units and buildings die before u can do nothing.. when u micro u are just messing things and u are dangeously leaving macro mode. | ||
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AeonFlux
Ukraine101 Posts
You're declaring the correct counters to your issue "noobish", and are calling any and all reasonable ideas that EVERYBODY uses "noobish" So I guess everybody is a noob except you. And I highly doubt he's in Platinum. And if he is, so what? you can reach platinum just 1a'ing your way to victory. You win all 5 placement matches and you get to platinum. You know how easy it is to win all 5 placement matches? Plus his own words speak for themselves. cant u get that THING THAT EVERYBODY USES CANT BE GOOD CAS EVERYBODY CANT BE TOP1 IN WORLD. top1 is one player and he useses his own tactics and DONT CARE WHAT EVERYBODY USES. i m stable about 40-50 place in platinum.. its not only 5 games. btw u can watch my replay pack where i totally destroy terrans and cant win zerg or toss. tvt is balanced cas its mirror. | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
"I can't spam units and win, so it's imba" "People aren't deliberately doing things that my build counters, obviously the race is imba" "I spam in TvT" "I'm in Platinum, therefore I'm l337" "Playing passive or defensively is only for noobs, even though top players do it" | ||
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Gregsen
Germany667 Posts
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AeonFlux
Ukraine101 Posts
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expendable
United States17 Posts
On May 16 2010 05:45 Rathorne wrote: Hier, why would this thread be closed. This is a legitmate issue to me. I don't know how to effectively play against a Void Ray opening as Terrans. Please help. Only Darthturtle tried to help. No one else did anything, except complain at my pleas for a few good replays or practice games against Protoss as Terran. Please prove me wrong, and help if you wouldn't mind. Sweet jesus, are you serious? Every third post in this thread tells you how to deal with them as terran. There's a bunch of threads specifically (Gretorp's is especially good) devoted to countering Void Ray as T. Since you adamantly refuse to put any work in to this here is an easy counter: rax/gas/rax/ghost aca/rax/tech ghostcloak. Make 1 reactor and 2 tech labs, if you scan and see gateway timing push then go heavy marauder, if void ray go heavy ghost. It's really that easy. | ||
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k20a
Canada412 Posts
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AeonFlux
Ukraine101 Posts
Sweet jesus, are you serious? Every third post in this thread tells you how to deal with them as terran. There's a bunch of threads specifically (Gretorp's is especially good) devoted to countering Void Ray as T. Since you adamantly refuse to put any work in to this I will give you an easy counter: rax/gas/rax/ghost aca/rax/tech ghostcloak. Make 1 reactor and 2 tech labs, if you scan and see gateway timing push then go heavy marauder, if void ray go heavy ghost. It's really that easy. pxaxaxaxa why would u ever need HEAVY ghost? what means heavy? u mean several? so i have to make unit with dps of marine to make several emps? isnt 1 ghost enough to make emp? or i need 5ghosts to be totally destroyed by mass void rays or land push? also toss can make void ray and fast expand and he will laugh about your ghost. | ||
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AeonFlux
Ukraine101 Posts
On May 16 2010 07:52 k20a wrote: this has got to be a troll why dont u check my replays and u ll see that i lost all my last games to toss and zerg (and won almost all games vs terran) | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
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AeonFlux
Ukraine101 Posts
btw terran can counter my tactics at least by mirror tactics. (if he smart enoug). but how i mirror void ray? u tried (theres replay) but vr kill my base faster then my banshee kill toss's base. | ||
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Rogueleader89
United States27 Posts
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Yasser
Germany27 Posts
2nd: vs protoss I play: normal opening - 10 depot 12 rax 15 OC... into 2 rax(first teclab only for updates second rafinery) 1 fact i push with 4 tanks(siege) and only marins (update stim and shield) worked for me vs plat and gold(no 4 gate push though) | ||
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