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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 11 2013 03:39 GMT
#141
On November 11 2013 12:38 Spektor wrote:
It's been awhile, but I might come back to this. No matter WoWs problems, it's still the best MMO I've played.


ya real

tried guild wars
tried tera
tried ff14

honestly nothing compares back to glory days
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MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
November 11 2013 07:31 GMT
#142
On November 11 2013 04:55 Sky0 wrote:
the only reason there was world pvp back in Vanilla was two things, one was because either your alt or friend was getting ganked in Hillsbrad and he brought all his friends or guildies so the other faction did the same. Or two guilds fighting over world bosses.


Nope.

Sorry, but there was incentive for World PvP originally. There were PvP ranks, and there was honor in Vanilla WoW, before there were ever battlegrounds.

Battlegrounds did not launch with the game, and came out almost a year or more into release, also back then it was server locked, so horde from server only fought alliance from their server. This is when the old-school PvP heros were born, like Constantine, was a lock who was infamous for his BG premades that pretty much flawless'd every single bg they went into.

Battlegrounds are what killed World PvP. Originally if you wanted to get GM or High Warlord, it meant going out into the world and hunting people down, and basically causing all out guild v guild wars.

TM/SS was a very common and understood World PvP spot for the first year or so of the game, there was always a war going on TM/SS because it was one of the first zones where Horde and Alliance were leveling close to eachother, and they each had a town within a reasonable distance to the fight, creating giant back and forth swings of momentum.

World Bosses was another reason to PvP, but those have been pretty much removed since TBC (idk about MoP)

But saying that there was no World PvP besides ganking/camping nonsense is just plain incorrect, I had a couple friends who I played with from launch, for the first year or 2 who got GM or HW, simply by going out and either going to TM/SS battles, or going to camp the Black Rock Mountain, and kill groups as they tried to get to the instances, cause back then you had to actually group up in a major city, then travel there, there werent meeting stones or insta-teleporting to instance simply by queuing from a major city.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-02 08:32:33
November 11 2013 09:19 GMT
#143
So as everyone keeps asking and no one is making.....

Lets Make A Player List!

For both EU and NA, just write down your battle tag if you want people to play with.

Remember this is for Warlords of Draenor specifically, not just Panda land, only post if you will be getting WoD

Three things i need; 1. Battletag 2. Faction 3. NA/EU

With Cross Realm now all you need to be is on a server and be either Horde or Alliance and you can group with anybody in the game


Example;
Pandemona - Panda#2710 - Europe - Horde



Europe List
+ Show Spoiler +

Team Liquid Username - BattleTag - Server - Faction

Pandemona - Panda#2710 - Europe - Horde - [Twisting Nether]
Akatama - Sphinx#2651 - Europe - Horde - [Draenor]
FFW_Rude - FFW#2606 - Europe - Alliance - [Rashgaroth[FR]]
Siggen - Siggen#2894 - Europe - Horde - [The Maelstrom]
Wintex - Wintex#2278 - Europe - Alliance Horde - [Twilight's Hammer / Defias Brotherhood]
Baituri - Baituri#2727 - Europe - Horde - [Draenor]
Dumbledore - Volatile#2344 - Europe - Horde - Outland
Cook - Cook#2996 - Europe/NA - Alliance - Uldum
DnameIN - DnameIN#2247 - EU - Horde - The Venture Co.
nimbim - nimbim#2169 - EU -Alliance - Ysera
TokO - TokO#2150 - EU - Horde Champer of Aspects


North America List
+ Show Spoiler +

Team Liquid Username - BattleTag - Server - Faction

farvacola - Tren#1762 - Alliance - NA (Akama)
softee - softee#1275 - Alliance - NA [Kil'Jaeden]
Stancel - Stancel#6869 Alliance - NA [Caelestrasz]
Digmouse - digmouse#1608 Alliance - NA [Aerie Peak]
Bluelightz - Matth34#1980 Alliance - NA [Nagrand]
psyq - Mitchoi#6843 Horde - NA - (Area 52)
nikj -lovemuffinz#1108 Horde - NA (Ner'Zhul)
Bashnek - Bash#6746 Horde - NA [Blackrock]
Qaatar - Qaatar#1840 Horde - NA [Illidan]
Crownlol - Crownless#1494 - Alliance - NA - ??
Cook - Cook#2996 - Europe/NA - Alliance - Uldum
FeUerFlieGe - Zulu#1163 - NA - Alliance - ??
cyberspace - cyberspace#1417 - NA - Alliance - Uldum
Baituri - Baituri#2727 - NA - Alliance - Uldum
TheFish7 - MrStabby#1409 - NA - Horde - Spinebreaker
DarkDragon288 - Void#1358 - NA - Alliance - (Darkspear)
Jopz - Jopz#1533 - NA - Horde - Bonechewer
Leopoldshark - Leopoldshark#1498 - NA - Horde - Perenolde
las91 - las#1397- NA -Alliance - Kargath
EchOne - EchOne#1923 - NA -Alliance - Korgath
Cyberhydra#1420 - Hydraxis - NA - Horde
Alabasern - Cyberhydra#1420 - NA - Horde - Hydraxis

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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-11 09:24:56
November 11 2013 09:21 GMT
#144
Tren#1762-NA (Akama)-Alliance

lol
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-11 09:25:43
November 11 2013 09:25 GMT
#145
Good job Farvacola! Thats 2 of us :D
Shame different faction and server
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
November 11 2013 09:26 GMT
#146
well I've got Horde toons (an 87 mage and an 85 warrior) too so we'll see
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
November 11 2013 10:08 GMT
#147

World Bosses was another reason to PvP, but those have been pretty much removed since TBC (idk about MoP)
Well, world bosses are back in their full glory but these days there isn't a single Alliance to Horde ratio balanced server so they don't really spawn wPvP.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-11 10:52:07
November 11 2013 10:44 GMT
#148
On November 11 2013 16:31 MaestroSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 04:55 Sky0 wrote:
the only reason there was world pvp back in Vanilla was two things, one was because either your alt or friend was getting ganked in Hillsbrad and he brought all his friends or guildies so the other faction did the same. Or two guilds fighting over world bosses.


Nope.

Sorry, but there was incentive for World PvP originally. There were PvP ranks, and there was honor in Vanilla WoW, before there were ever battlegrounds.

+ Show Spoiler +
Battlegrounds did not launch with the game, and came out almost a year or more into release, also back then it was server locked, so horde from server only fought alliance from their server. This is when the old-school PvP heros were born, like Constantine, was a lock who was infamous for his BG premades that pretty much flawless'd every single bg they went into.

Battlegrounds are what killed World PvP. Originally if you wanted to get GM or High Warlord, it meant going out into the world and hunting people down, and basically causing all out guild v guild wars.

TM/SS was a very common and understood World PvP spot for the first year or so of the game, there was always a war going on TM/SS because it was one of the first zones where Horde and Alliance were leveling close to eachother, and they each had a town within a reasonable distance to the fight, creating giant back and forth swings of momentum.

World Bosses was another reason to PvP, but those have been pretty much removed since TBC (idk about MoP)

But saying that there was no World PvP besides ganking/camping nonsense is just plain incorrect, I had a couple friends who I played with from launch, for the first year or 2 who got GM or HW, simply by going out and either going to TM/SS battles, or going to camp the Black Rock Mountain, and kill groups as they tried to get to the instances, cause back then you had to actually group up in a major city, then travel there, there werent meeting stones or insta-teleporting to instance simply by queuing from a major city.


You are incorrect. There was no honour points when WoW launched and the honour system was introduced one major patch before the first battlegrounds (wsg and av). There was a period of maybe 6-8 weeks with honour but no battlegrounds, that's all.

Honour was added on the 8th of April 2005, battlegrounds on the 7th on June.
softee
Profile Joined January 2011
United States75 Posts
November 11 2013 10:57 GMT
#149
softee#1275 [Kil'Jaeden] Alliance

Lets get a TL guild going!
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 11 2013 12:57 GMT
#150
On November 11 2013 19:44 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 16:31 MaestroSC wrote:
On November 11 2013 04:55 Sky0 wrote:
the only reason there was world pvp back in Vanilla was two things, one was because either your alt or friend was getting ganked in Hillsbrad and he brought all his friends or guildies so the other faction did the same. Or two guilds fighting over world bosses.


Nope.

Sorry, but there was incentive for World PvP originally. There were PvP ranks, and there was honor in Vanilla WoW, before there were ever battlegrounds.

+ Show Spoiler +
Battlegrounds did not launch with the game, and came out almost a year or more into release, also back then it was server locked, so horde from server only fought alliance from their server. This is when the old-school PvP heros were born, like Constantine, was a lock who was infamous for his BG premades that pretty much flawless'd every single bg they went into.

Battlegrounds are what killed World PvP. Originally if you wanted to get GM or High Warlord, it meant going out into the world and hunting people down, and basically causing all out guild v guild wars.

TM/SS was a very common and understood World PvP spot for the first year or so of the game, there was always a war going on TM/SS because it was one of the first zones where Horde and Alliance were leveling close to eachother, and they each had a town within a reasonable distance to the fight, creating giant back and forth swings of momentum.

World Bosses was another reason to PvP, but those have been pretty much removed since TBC (idk about MoP)

But saying that there was no World PvP besides ganking/camping nonsense is just plain incorrect, I had a couple friends who I played with from launch, for the first year or 2 who got GM or HW, simply by going out and either going to TM/SS battles, or going to camp the Black Rock Mountain, and kill groups as they tried to get to the instances, cause back then you had to actually group up in a major city, then travel there, there werent meeting stones or insta-teleporting to instance simply by queuing from a major city.


You are incorrect. There was no honour points when WoW launched and the honour system was introduced one major patch before the first battlegrounds (wsg and av). There was a period of maybe 6-8 weeks with honour but no battlegrounds, that's all.

Honour was added on the 8th of April 2005, battlegrounds on the 7th on June.


Add to that the fact that gear rewards for PvP ranks launched with battlegrounds so honor was meaningless during that time.

World PvP was Xroads + TM/SS for about a year and that's about it. There was a rash of city invasions when they introduced achievements in Wrath just to kill all the leaders, but often times the defending faction either didn't care or couldn't muster enough people in 1 group to do anything about it.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
November 11 2013 12:58 GMT
#151
Stancel#6869 [Caelestrasz] Alliance

I'll be realm transferring to Frostmourne soon~
ffxiv enjoyer
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
November 11 2013 13:03 GMT
#152
Your playing North America servers Stancel?
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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
November 11 2013 13:09 GMT
#153
yeah, it's the Oceanic realms on WoW-NA.
ffxiv enjoyer
Garfailed
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands409 Posts
November 11 2013 13:26 GMT
#154
yes outlands! best zone in my honest opinion, will definetely get back to wow for this, especially considering the instant 90 thing.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
November 11 2013 13:29 GMT
#155
On November 11 2013 22:09 Stancel wrote:
yeah, it's the Oceanic realms on WoW-NA.

I have an account with 6-7 toons on Frostmourne.
Moderator
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
November 11 2013 13:34 GMT
#156
digmouse#1608, Aerie Peak Alliance, willing to transfer to any PvE realm.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-11 13:40:50
November 11 2013 13:40 GMT
#157
WHERES MY HORDE AT? ;_;

On November 11 2013 22:29 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 22:09 Stancel wrote:
yeah, it's the Oceanic realms on WoW-NA.

I have an account with 6-7 toons on Frostmourne.


Spill the beans Fire! What Server you playing on? Whats your battle tag
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
November 11 2013 14:01 GMT
#158
Matth34#1980 [Nagrand] Alliance

Looking to reroll a priest soon enough.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
November 11 2013 14:10 GMT
#159
On November 11 2013 22:40 Pandemona wrote:
WHERES MY HORDE AT? ;_;

Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 22:29 Firebolt145 wrote:
On November 11 2013 22:09 Stancel wrote:
yeah, it's the Oceanic realms on WoW-NA.

I have an account with 6-7 toons on Frostmourne.


Spill the beans Fire! What Server you playing on? Whats your battle tag

I currently have an scroll-of-res'd account on Jubeithos for the next 6-7 days. I discovered that my old guild is completely inactive (with all my donated gold inaccessible in the guild bank ) and that the scroll does not give me access to MoP content so I'm not sure if I'll be resubscribing.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
November 11 2013 14:14 GMT
#160
Ooo, not even for Draenor? :D
A character instant level 90 when you instal it and you can be away? :D
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