EPT##extension
I have nothing against it.
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
##extension I have nothing against it. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
This raises the questions, where does the deadline begin? | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
Am I alone here? | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On August 24 2011 21:19 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I find it strange that Tnkted found more reason to vote for Palmar than Navillus, and in fact let Navillus' whole first post slide. Am I alone here? Not at all. However, I'm not always the best scumhunter, so I'd like to call on the analysis skills of Jackal58. Jackal, what do you think of tnkted's play so far in this game? I'm also going to vote tnkted, since I can always change it later if need be. ##Vote: tnkted | ||
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
On August 24 2011 20:50 chaos13 wrote: Erandorr, since you're around right now, what do you think of tnkted? Was his accusation of Palmar warranted, and does the logic behind it make sense to you? Sorry chaos, give me another few hours I am still at work, okay ?  | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
Extension Mechanic Update: After thinking about it, I decided to change the way extensions are used while the game is too early to matter. Check the changes in OP. In essence, people individually voting ##extension was necessary on deadline lynch but is redundant on majority lynch and just murks up things, so that is scrapped. Also to prevent unnecessary extension abuse which will delay upcoming games, I restricted the number of overall extension available down to 2 so spend them wisely. Once again sincere apologizes for abrupt change, I'm just glad I got this notification in before more people voted for the extension. @Palmar: Yes. I don't see much problem with it and prevent ##extension from cluttering things up. Also restricted overall extensions available for various reasons. Thought this change was acceptable since it is not integral part of the rules. @TheFerryman: On August 24 2011 11:54 TheFerryman wrote: Two questions. When the EH wins does the game immediately end? or is a joint victory possible. Is the EH considered a "threat to the town" for the purposes of the town wincondition EA and Mafia do not have conflicting win condition (All surviving players are insane, town # = mafia #), so EA-Mafia joint win is possible. Yes, EA and Town victory condition are incompatible which is why ... For all players Eldritch Abomination roleclaim is forbidden ... | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote: Tnkted He mentioned something about a newbie mistake as coverup for Navillus, but that would be a newbie mistake for someone playing mafia more so than someone on town. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On August 24 2011 21:13 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I'm thinking the plan to mention who we visited (even if we didn't) is better than nothing because *if* the psych happens to die there is a remote chance he did actually visit the horror That said, I'm going to kick things off and say I'm going to visit Erandorr, I advise everybody to choose someone and do the same. It´s been discussed earlier why breadcrumbs are bad, obvious posting of intent isn´t any better. Even if everyone claim they visit someone, there is information there. Either people lie, and we get WIFOM, or scum/EA picks up on it, and either attack those who are visited by many to find their enemy power-role, or stay away from those who are visited by anyone, to ensure their ability gets through. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On extension, if there are a limited number of uses, then I suggest we wait and don´t use one today, unless we are forced by not having a majority vote, because they will probably be better used in the late game. We should have about 25 hours left on the day, so there is still time to discuss this next lynch. | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
This is the reason why some people were suspecting Narvillus: On August 24 2011 00:20 Navillus wrote: Dammit I need to role something more interesting than townie one of these days... anyway, I've never played a mini before so I'm very open to any mini-specific advice anyone has. versus this: On August 24 2011 00:29 Palmar wrote: I have discarded my win condition, my sole object this game will be to convince Jackal I'm town, seeing as it's a feat I've never achieved. Which one of those seems scummier to you? To me, the second comment seems scummier by far. Now, I'd be willing to believe that it was a joke if it wasn't for Palmar's response: On August 24 2011 01:12 Palmar wrote: Right. This is not what happened. My win condition is to eliminate all threats to town. I did not slip, you're trying to manufacture evidence out of something that doesn't exist. My joke can't even be shrugged off as bad town play because nothing exists in it that would indicate I'm not town. This is a very sullen, angry response. Rather than joke around with my pressure and OMGUS, like Narvillus's did: On August 24 2011 01:29 Navillus wrote: ##Vote: Jackal58 OMGUS Narvillus wasn't worried about the pressure because he was having fun and joking around; he knew he was innocent and he knew that jackal thought he was innocent. Meanwhile, Palmar's FIRST INSTINCT upon being accused was to lash out. his FIRST INSTINCT is to accuse me of manufacturing evidence. Is that a reasonable response? I sure don't think it is. So that's my case for accusing palmar. You can find it convincing, or you can find it unconvincing, I'm not really concerned about it. Much of what I just outlined happened in my head unconciously and I'm sort of explaining my scumdar pings after the fact, if that makes any sense. @ people saying I'm trying to avoid responsibility for a mislynch by saying 'its day 1, no biggie': That is not what I intended that comment to come across as at all. Lynching anyone (lynching ME) would bring us to the same point that a mislynch with palmar would. I'm saying that since it's day 1, the chances of us completely ruining our chances at winning the game by mislynching are extremely small (we'd have to hit the psychologist). I was specifically talking to ferryman, who, judging from the content of the post I was responding too, seemed to be placing an inordinate amount of importance on hitting scum day1 with a lynch. Regarding our lynch today, if we aren't lynching Palmar I'd like to suggest Cyber_Cheese. This: On August 24 2011 21:51 Cyber_Cheese wrote: While I still think Ferryman is the horror from my arguement on the bottom of the last page, it makes more sense to go mafia hunting instead, so: ##Unvote ##Vote: Tnkted He mentioned something about a newbie mistake as coverup for Navillus, but that would be a newbie mistake for someone playing mafia more so than someone on town. Is the stupidest reason I've ever seen anyone give for hopping on a wagon. If he thinks navillus is scum and I'm covering up for him, why wouldn't he just vote navillus? I'll tell you why: because a wagon is forming around me and he wants to hop on safely. Whats more, he's done this several times already this game. On August 24 2011 01:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote: We have no investigative roles, the way I see it our best chance is to vote for people from the get-go That said ##Vote: Navillus Because he was the first person to talk about being a townie. Following jackal. On August 24 2011 01:52 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Wait, on second thought I'm going to ##Unvote ##Vote: If he feels the need to convince Jackal he's a townie, I think it's more likely that he's not actually a townie. Following me. On August 24 2011 21:19 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I find it strange that Tnkted found more reason to vote for Palmar than Navillus, and in fact let Navillus' whole first post slide. Am I alone here? As the wagon was picking up steam. On August 24 2011 21:51 Cyber_Cheese wrote: While I still think Ferryman is the horror from my arguement on the bottom of the last page, it makes more sense to go mafia hunting instead, so: ##Unvote ##Vote: Tnkted He mentioned something about a newbie mistake as coverup for Navillus, but that would be a newbie mistake for someone playing mafia more so than someone on town. That's three wagons he's hopped on in less than a page of posts. Coincidentally, those are the only three wagons that have existed this game. He also tries to cover up the fact that he's wagon hopping: I never actually believed Palmar was anti-town, but there was an arguement against him and I didn't want to not lynch, so ##Unvote CYBER_SCUM BRO | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On August 25 2011 00:40 tnkted wrote: What's happening in XLIV? shouldn't talk about other games in here, I can pm you. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
If I happen to be lynched because of it, so be it, at least towns not wasting a chance to lynch | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On August 24 2011 21:13 Cyber_Cheese wrote: The town has no way of knowing for sure who is the mafia nor the eldritch horror. It starts 9v3v1, assuming the mafia manage to hit town it's only ever going to go downhill unless we lynch and get lucky and/or someones percieved slip up is actually that. I'm thinking the plan to mention who we visited (even if we didn't) is better than nothing because *if* the psych happens to die there is a remote chance he did actually visit the horror That said, I'm going to kick things off and say I'm going to visit Erandorr, I advise everybody to choose someone and do the same. I never actually believed Palmar was anti-town, but there was an arguement against him and I didn't want to not lynch, so ##Unvote Now, having read up to this point, one person seems to be pushing the identity of the horror rather too strongly, don't you think? I'm thinking he's panicked from getting the third party role and tried to pin the blame on someone else from the get-go ##Vote: TheFerryman Note how Ferryman used examples of wiggles from other games, despite this being his first? I think he was likely looking at other games to see how a third party faction should be played, and just happened to come up with some 'evidence' that wiggles could be used as a scapegoat. Also I don't really think meta-arguements should be used, keep it within what's been said this game. wtf@this post i already pointed out why the plan of everyone claiming a target is extremely pro-EA and pro-scum and doesnt help the town AT ALL. the fact that you're still suggesting it is mindboggling. it's a particularly dangerous plan because it actually sounds good before you think about it. i wanted to go back and see if there's a case to be made against you, but tnkted already pointed out the bandwagon hopping. i wanna add this though which i think is more damning than hopping: On August 24 2011 21:51 Cyber_Cheese wrote: While I still think Ferryman is the horror from my arguement on the bottom of the last page, it makes more sense to go mafia hunting instead, so: NO IT DOESNT. the most optimal play for town is to lynch EA day one. second most optimal is to lynch scum. this screams distancing himself from ferryman / setup for a future scenario. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
Breadcrumbing summary: The doc lies so mafia cant backtrack who healed the person they attacked accurately... so the doc cant breadcrumb The rest of town feign visiting and psych tells the truth because the psych is our best lead on finding the horror The forseen problem with that was that the EH would know who 'visited' them and if they didn't die, would know they were not worth a visit So what if town agreed to which person the psych visits anonymously? e.g. town agrees that psych should visit (I don't know, me?) and if the psych turns up dead we can assume hes (I'm in this case) the EH | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On August 25 2011 01:49 JeeJee wrote: NO IT DOESNT. the most optimal play for town is to lynch EA day one. second most optimal is to lynch scum. this screams distancing himself from ferryman / setup for a future scenario. JeeJee, could you please explain how you reasoning here? | ||
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Sevryn
698 Posts
On August 25 2011 01:40 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I believe it's in towns best interests to randomly lynch from the get-go, as I've stated a few times in now, so I've been following bandwagons to try and put a lynch through If I happen to be lynched because of it, so be it, at least towns not wasting a chance to lynch its in scums best interest for town to randomly lynch and ignore scum slips while i was reading the thread i was going to do a write up on CyberCheese however tnkted beat me to it this guy self admitted to jumping on bandwagons. he plays the IDC if i get lynched card this guy is scum. ##vote Cyber_Cheese | ||
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