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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
And I'm sorry but with regards to the article what in the fuck logic gets a woman to assess that common residential zoning practice leads to actual intent?. Do people seriously have nothing else to do all day but brood over what ifs? The national media has already been reduced to fear-mongering bullshit but really? And FFS stop with the sensationalist titles. The original article in the OP is even shoddy at best in describing the situation. | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:56 m4inbrain wrote: Joking is not. And you're not to judge if a joke meets "joke-criteria". your intention does not matter, it's what people percieve as the truth as matters. If I go out on town yelling im gna kill school children, it doesn't fucking matter if I then say it was a joke. | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:56 nkr wrote: facebook didnt force him to threaten to kill people But facebook was the thing he was located and jailed. Not having facebook account and no jail time. | ||
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Sokrates
738 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:56 Plansix wrote: Wait, so I can't threaten to kill everyone in my town, on Facebook and provide no context for the comments? I was not aware I didn't have this freedom to be an idiot on that scale. But you have the freedom to be an idiot on a lower scale? If you get shitfaced, and then knocked up because you didnt remember if the guy used a condom well then you can have an abortion because that happens. But if a retarded 19 year old makes a stupid comment on facebook he should be jailed. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:56 Sokrates wrote: Oh wait what was your point of view regarding abortions again? In case of an abortion : well shit can happen to anyone. Now here: Omfg should be punished and jailed. My point of view was that you should stop stalking me and asking weird questions about abortion? | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:54 Plansix wrote: The threat of doing the think is still a crime. You cannot threaten to do things that are illegal, especially bodily harm to others. 8 years is a long time, but do not post this shit of facebook for all to see. The threat has to be credible for it to be a threat treated as a crime. That's the point of investigation. In the context of an online game, and with the comments immediately following JUST KIDDING it's clearly not a credible threat. | ||
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Kamais Ookin
Canada591 Posts
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:49 nkr wrote: if you're dumb enough to have such "friends" around you, you deserve your jailtime ;P Apparently you've never been around teenagers and/or drunk people. | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:57 nkr wrote: your intention does not matter, it's what people percieve as the truth as matters. If I go out on town yelling im gna kill school children, it doesn't fucking matter if I then say it was a joke. It's a big difference if you run around and shouting stuff like a nutjob, or write stuff on a forum with "jk lol" behind it. There's alot of jew-jokes out there. Guess you need to be charged with racism and hatespeech every single time you use one of these. Not to mention jokes about blacks, germans, polish guys and what not. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:58 NovaTheFeared wrote: The threat has to be credible for it to be a threat treated as a crime. That's the point of investigation. In the context of an online game, and with the comments immediately following JUST KIDDING it's clearly not a credible threat. Except it was made on Facebook to the world, not in LoL. The OP is wrong. He just an idiot on the internet, not LoL. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
How is there any way to construe this as an actual threat? Are you people kidding? That's just one step short of a legal disclaimer saying "Warning, the above comments are not serious." | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:56 Plansix wrote: Wait, so I can't threaten to kill everyone in my town, on Facebook and provide no context for the comments? I was not aware I didn't have this freedom to be an idiot on that scale. Because it's a threat... and not a joke... ok. If you say so. | ||
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Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:47 Quotidian wrote: Breivik isn't a "precedent" to some kid making a silly comment on Facebook. Making off-color remarks on Facebook isn't an act of terrorism. Breivik had already been breaking the law for months before releasing his manifesto or whatever, by making explosives on a remote farm, while at the same time taking significant steps to keep his plan a secret. There are zero parallels to Breivik in this case. Developments like this isn't that many steps away from 1984-style thought police... in which case - USA, it was nice knowing you :\ The worst part is that instances like this are likely a sweeping majority of the NSA's proposed victories against terrorism. We wouldn't know because they aren't about to disclose anything of the sort, but it is likely the case. | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6642 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:59 Kamais Ookin wrote: This case is proof that you can and should be punished for stupidity. If that's the case then the woman who reported him to the police should be arrested too. | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
On June 30 2013 22:00 Plansix wrote: Except it was made on Facebook to the world, not in LoL. The OP is wrong. He just an idiot on the internet, not LoL. I heard both stories, but that doesn't change my evaluation of the situation. In the facebook story, he is responding to a friend who called him crazy and he's sarcastically saying yeah im real crzy men!!! i shoot em up and eat their beating hartz! JK This is the real, credible threat of violence? I don't think so. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Listen buddy, I don't know where you live, where you've lived, how you've lived or what you're doing on an online gaming forum while having such little experience with online gaming. But I can tell you from my long history of multiplayer gaming, and the cumulated knowledge of everything I've seen, heard and experienced, that this isn't out of the ordinary. Hell, with XBox live's CoD and Halo, with League of Legends and other such casual-competitive games, it's even more prevalent now than it used to be. I've seen people rage like hell, and I hold nothing against them, fuck I'm not ashamed to admit that I've raged like hell too, and not only once. But it's ok. It's ok to be upset when someone on your team fucks up, or when you fuck up, or when you lose. It's ok, because it's passing. It's called competitive spirit, and anyone who's ever been competitive in anything, sports, board games, gambling, you name it, any of those people will at least understand the sentiment. You for some reason, don't seem to. Therein lies the problem... I find it quite funny you think I have little experience with online gaming when we're posting on teamliquid.  This wasn't an in-game chat, this was on Facebook, which you seem to ignore for some reason. | ||
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Sokrates
738 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:58 Plansix wrote: My point of view was that you should stop stalking me and asking weird questions about abortion? Just pointing out your hypocrisy. And i didnt stalk you, that thread was just under the "usa is spying on us thread". | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:57 Badfatpanda wrote: Not keeping up on current events is somewhat acceptable. Being idiotic enough to post something like that on facebook is beyond stupid. The punishment wasn't nearly in context, even if he won't get sentenced he's already spent 4 fucking months of his life in jail and probably a few more to come. And I'm sorry but with regards to the article what in the fuck logic gets a woman to assess that common residential zoning practice leads to actual intent?. Do people seriously have nothing else to do all day but brood over what ifs? The national media has already been reduced to fear-mongering bullshit but really? And FFS stop with the sensationalist titles. The original article in the OP is even shoddy at best in describing the situation. Because that's the only reason why people ever would read this crap, would you even read it if it stated the facts, that this kid hasn't been sentenced yet and prolly only will spend half a year in jail or just do community service and that the time he already has been in custody prolly will be included in his final sentence, if he even is found guilty? | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
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