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Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
June 30 2013 13:09 GMT
#141
Funny how some people are actually in agreement with that guy going to prison.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
June 30 2013 13:10 GMT
#142
On June 30 2013 22:08 Sokrates wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 22:06 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:04 NovaTheFeared wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:03 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Is dark comedy illegal now?


It is if Texas has its way. These actions by the state are infringements on 1st Amendment rights. It's absolutely disgusting.

You don't have the right to threaten people with bodily harm under the 1st Amendment. Dark comedy requires context, which facebook does not provide.


You dont get this. You cant compare the internet to the real world since everyone treats the internet differnt than the real world NO MATTER WHAT if it should be that way. Fact is on the internet people act differntly than in the real world.

If you go out on the real world and threaten people to kill or rape them you gotta be in trouble. In the internet it is a thing you hear everyday.


Some people really don't seem to get this for some reason...
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
June 30 2013 13:10 GMT
#143
On June 30 2013 22:08 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 22:07 Prog455 wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:50 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:46 Plansix wrote:
A valuable lesson to all. Don't say stupid shit on the internet. Its a bit unreasonable, but that is not a joke you make. Its sort of like posting "I'm building a bomb" and then just putting "JK, its totally fine". If you live near me, I'm still going to call someone to confirm you are not, in fact, building a bomb.


It's ok to have someone confirm their intentions, it's NOT ok at all to jail them for numerous months (facing 8 years) without any form of investigation or background-check.

If I say that I am going to shoot someone and they believe me, I can be sent to jail, even if I did not intend to do so. Threats of doing something is still a crime.

I do agree that 8 years is a lot, though. Still, I need to know more and if he pushed it to trial, rather than plea out.


I don't know about US, but at least in Denmark a person can not be punished for threats, unless the person is aware that his threats might actually cause fear.

I am genuinely curious if American law considers the intention of the act when judging. In Denmark a person must have had an evil intent in order to be punished, unless the law states otherwise. At this point it is my impression that US law has gotten rid of any thing remotely related to common sense, and it would easy my mind to be proven wrong in this matter.

It does and fear is important. But guess what, if you post shit like this on the internet, with limited context, it can cause a lot of fear.


So when political leaders make threats of armed invasions and destruction of property or the killing of people on national television, that's simply diplomacy and politics. When some guy makes a joke with "lol jk" on his facebook page. That's causing alot of fear.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
June 30 2013 13:11 GMT
#144
On June 30 2013 22:08 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 22:07 Prog455 wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:50 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:46 Plansix wrote:
A valuable lesson to all. Don't say stupid shit on the internet. Its a bit unreasonable, but that is not a joke you make. Its sort of like posting "I'm building a bomb" and then just putting "JK, its totally fine". If you live near me, I'm still going to call someone to confirm you are not, in fact, building a bomb.


It's ok to have someone confirm their intentions, it's NOT ok at all to jail them for numerous months (facing 8 years) without any form of investigation or background-check.

If I say that I am going to shoot someone and they believe me, I can be sent to jail, even if I did not intend to do so. Threats of doing something is still a crime.

I do agree that 8 years is a lot, though. Still, I need to know more and if he pushed it to trial, rather than plea out.


I don't know about US, but at least in Denmark a person can not be punished for threats, unless the person is aware that his threats might actually cause fear.

I am genuinely curious if American law considers the intention of the act when judging. In Denmark a person must have had an evil intent in order to be punished, unless the law states otherwise. At this point it is my impression that US law has gotten rid of any thing remotely related to common sense, and it would easy my mind to be proven wrong in this matter.

It does and fear is important. But guess what, if you post shit like this on the internet, with limited context, it can cause a lot of fear.


You're completely right, I pissed myself and started crying when some twerp threatened to find me and kill me and my family because I owned him in some game...

-_-
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 30 2013 13:11 GMT
#145
On June 30 2013 22:10 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 22:08 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:07 Prog455 wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:50 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:46 Plansix wrote:
A valuable lesson to all. Don't say stupid shit on the internet. Its a bit unreasonable, but that is not a joke you make. Its sort of like posting "I'm building a bomb" and then just putting "JK, its totally fine". If you live near me, I'm still going to call someone to confirm you are not, in fact, building a bomb.


It's ok to have someone confirm their intentions, it's NOT ok at all to jail them for numerous months (facing 8 years) without any form of investigation or background-check.

If I say that I am going to shoot someone and they believe me, I can be sent to jail, even if I did not intend to do so. Threats of doing something is still a crime.

I do agree that 8 years is a lot, though. Still, I need to know more and if he pushed it to trial, rather than plea out.


I don't know about US, but at least in Denmark a person can not be punished for threats, unless the person is aware that his threats might actually cause fear.

I am genuinely curious if American law considers the intention of the act when judging. In Denmark a person must have had an evil intent in order to be punished, unless the law states otherwise. At this point it is my impression that US law has gotten rid of any thing remotely related to common sense, and it would easy my mind to be proven wrong in this matter.

It does and fear is important. But guess what, if you post shit like this on the internet, with limited context, it can cause a lot of fear.


So when political leaders make threats of armed invasions and destruction of property or the killing of people on national television, that's simply diplomacy and politics. When some guy makes a joke with "lol jk" on his facebook page. That's causing alot of fear.

Reaching a little bit, don't you think?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Valon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States329 Posts
June 30 2013 13:12 GMT
#146
This is actually quite dumb
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
June 30 2013 13:12 GMT
#147
On June 30 2013 22:10 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 22:08 Sokrates wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:06 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:04 NovaTheFeared wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:03 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Is dark comedy illegal now?


It is if Texas has its way. These actions by the state are infringements on 1st Amendment rights. It's absolutely disgusting.

You don't have the right to threaten people with bodily harm under the 1st Amendment. Dark comedy requires context, which facebook does not provide.


You dont get this. You cant compare the internet to the real world since everyone treats the internet differnt than the real world NO MATTER WHAT if it should be that way. Fact is on the internet people act differntly than in the real world.

If you go out on the real world and threaten people to kill or rape them you gotta be in trouble. In the internet it is a thing you hear everyday.


Some people really don't seem to get this for some reason...

I get it, i just don't agree with it, and that's probably why this story brings such joy to my heart.
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m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
June 30 2013 13:12 GMT
#148
On June 30 2013 22:11 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 22:10 Caihead wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:08 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:07 Prog455 wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:50 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:46 Plansix wrote:
A valuable lesson to all. Don't say stupid shit on the internet. Its a bit unreasonable, but that is not a joke you make. Its sort of like posting "I'm building a bomb" and then just putting "JK, its totally fine". If you live near me, I'm still going to call someone to confirm you are not, in fact, building a bomb.


It's ok to have someone confirm their intentions, it's NOT ok at all to jail them for numerous months (facing 8 years) without any form of investigation or background-check.

If I say that I am going to shoot someone and they believe me, I can be sent to jail, even if I did not intend to do so. Threats of doing something is still a crime.

I do agree that 8 years is a lot, though. Still, I need to know more and if he pushed it to trial, rather than plea out.


I don't know about US, but at least in Denmark a person can not be punished for threats, unless the person is aware that his threats might actually cause fear.

I am genuinely curious if American law considers the intention of the act when judging. In Denmark a person must have had an evil intent in order to be punished, unless the law states otherwise. At this point it is my impression that US law has gotten rid of any thing remotely related to common sense, and it would easy my mind to be proven wrong in this matter.

It does and fear is important. But guess what, if you post shit like this on the internet, with limited context, it can cause a lot of fear.


So when political leaders make threats of armed invasions and destruction of property or the killing of people on national television, that's simply diplomacy and politics. When some guy makes a joke with "lol jk" on his facebook page. That's causing alot of fear.

Reaching a little bit, don't you think?


Coming from someone that said "it's okay to sit 4 month in jail for that comment, they will drop the case anyway", that's funny.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 13:13:34
June 30 2013 13:13 GMT
#149
On June 30 2013 22:11 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 22:10 Caihead wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:08 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:07 Prog455 wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:50 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:46 Plansix wrote:
A valuable lesson to all. Don't say stupid shit on the internet. Its a bit unreasonable, but that is not a joke you make. Its sort of like posting "I'm building a bomb" and then just putting "JK, its totally fine". If you live near me, I'm still going to call someone to confirm you are not, in fact, building a bomb.


It's ok to have someone confirm their intentions, it's NOT ok at all to jail them for numerous months (facing 8 years) without any form of investigation or background-check.

If I say that I am going to shoot someone and they believe me, I can be sent to jail, even if I did not intend to do so. Threats of doing something is still a crime.

I do agree that 8 years is a lot, though. Still, I need to know more and if he pushed it to trial, rather than plea out.


I don't know about US, but at least in Denmark a person can not be punished for threats, unless the person is aware that his threats might actually cause fear.

I am genuinely curious if American law considers the intention of the act when judging. In Denmark a person must have had an evil intent in order to be punished, unless the law states otherwise. At this point it is my impression that US law has gotten rid of any thing remotely related to common sense, and it would easy my mind to be proven wrong in this matter.

It does and fear is important. But guess what, if you post shit like this on the internet, with limited context, it can cause a lot of fear.


So when political leaders make threats of armed invasions and destruction of property or the killing of people on national television, that's simply diplomacy and politics. When some guy makes a joke with "lol jk" on his facebook page. That's causing alot of fear.

Reaching a little bit, don't you think?


No, it really isn't, we live in a society where genuine threats are made (and often even carried out) by organizations around the world to our livelihoods, be it external or extremist, or our own governments. And this is what you get jailed for making threats? Preposterous hypocrisy and double standard.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 30 2013 13:14 GMT
#150
On June 30 2013 22:11 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 22:08 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:07 Prog455 wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:50 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:46 Plansix wrote:
A valuable lesson to all. Don't say stupid shit on the internet. Its a bit unreasonable, but that is not a joke you make. Its sort of like posting "I'm building a bomb" and then just putting "JK, its totally fine". If you live near me, I'm still going to call someone to confirm you are not, in fact, building a bomb.


It's ok to have someone confirm their intentions, it's NOT ok at all to jail them for numerous months (facing 8 years) without any form of investigation or background-check.

If I say that I am going to shoot someone and they believe me, I can be sent to jail, even if I did not intend to do so. Threats of doing something is still a crime.

I do agree that 8 years is a lot, though. Still, I need to know more and if he pushed it to trial, rather than plea out.


I don't know about US, but at least in Denmark a person can not be punished for threats, unless the person is aware that his threats might actually cause fear.

I am genuinely curious if American law considers the intention of the act when judging. In Denmark a person must have had an evil intent in order to be punished, unless the law states otherwise. At this point it is my impression that US law has gotten rid of any thing remotely related to common sense, and it would easy my mind to be proven wrong in this matter.

It does and fear is important. But guess what, if you post shit like this on the internet, with limited context, it can cause a lot of fear.


You're completely right, I pissed myself and started crying when some twerp threatened to find me and kill me and my family because I owned him in some game...

-_-

Except it was on facebook and was reported by someone who didn't know the kid. Look, if you want to say this stuff, set your facebook to private.

Look, I can't go out in public and say I am going to shoot up a school and eat the children's hearts. I will be fucking arrested, because people who don't know me will report me. This guy did it on facebook.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7224 Posts
June 30 2013 13:14 GMT
#151
I remember when I was younger it was a fad to always say the opposite of what you meant followed by the oft annoying "NOT!" If the principle of Texas holds, we should all be in jail. But then who would guard the prisoners? Because they would be guilty too. This is madness.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
June 30 2013 13:14 GMT
#152
On June 30 2013 22:12 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 22:10 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:08 Sokrates wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:06 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:04 NovaTheFeared wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:03 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Is dark comedy illegal now?


It is if Texas has its way. These actions by the state are infringements on 1st Amendment rights. It's absolutely disgusting.

You don't have the right to threaten people with bodily harm under the 1st Amendment. Dark comedy requires context, which facebook does not provide.


You dont get this. You cant compare the internet to the real world since everyone treats the internet differnt than the real world NO MATTER WHAT if it should be that way. Fact is on the internet people act differntly than in the real world.

If you go out on the real world and threaten people to kill or rape them you gotta be in trouble. In the internet it is a thing you hear everyday.


Some people really don't seem to get this for some reason...

I get it, i just don't agree with it, and that's probably why this story brings such joy to my heart.


And what brings joy to my heart is that worldwide internet censorship is improbable to ever happen, no matter how much people like you would crave it.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 13:17:14
June 30 2013 13:15 GMT
#153
On June 30 2013 22:14 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 22:11 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:08 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:07 Prog455 wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:50 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:46 Plansix wrote:
A valuable lesson to all. Don't say stupid shit on the internet. Its a bit unreasonable, but that is not a joke you make. Its sort of like posting "I'm building a bomb" and then just putting "JK, its totally fine". If you live near me, I'm still going to call someone to confirm you are not, in fact, building a bomb.


It's ok to have someone confirm their intentions, it's NOT ok at all to jail them for numerous months (facing 8 years) without any form of investigation or background-check.

If I say that I am going to shoot someone and they believe me, I can be sent to jail, even if I did not intend to do so. Threats of doing something is still a crime.

I do agree that 8 years is a lot, though. Still, I need to know more and if he pushed it to trial, rather than plea out.


I don't know about US, but at least in Denmark a person can not be punished for threats, unless the person is aware that his threats might actually cause fear.

I am genuinely curious if American law considers the intention of the act when judging. In Denmark a person must have had an evil intent in order to be punished, unless the law states otherwise. At this point it is my impression that US law has gotten rid of any thing remotely related to common sense, and it would easy my mind to be proven wrong in this matter.

It does and fear is important. But guess what, if you post shit like this on the internet, with limited context, it can cause a lot of fear.


You're completely right, I pissed myself and started crying when some twerp threatened to find me and kill me and my family because I owned him in some game...

-_-

Except it was on facebook and was reported by someone who didn't know the kid. Look, if you want to say this stuff, set your facebook to private.

Look, I can't go out in public and say I am going to shoot up a school and eat the children's hearts. I will be fucking arrested, because people who don't know me will report me. This guy did it on facebook.


So what's the moral here? That Facebook is given infinitely more power than a site should ever really have?

Bottom line though it's kinda pathetic that you can be jailed without investigation for something you post on Facebook, OR ANY SITE FOR THAT MATTER, especially when it has an obvious disclaimer as to its intention.

The internet is not real life. People need to deal with it.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
June 30 2013 13:16 GMT
#154
On June 30 2013 22:07 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 22:03 Jek wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:26 Jek wrote:

@MasterOfPuppets: How do you KNOW there's nothing in it?

To be honest, I don't know how to phrase this without sounding arrogant so please bear with me, I don't think the people in uproar has any idea how it is to have a mental disorder - which this kid might very well have - I have a bipolar disorder which if I forget my meds and trigger a fully-blown manic period I have the potential to be a threat to myself and my surroundings, I'm glad to know I have a red mark in my journal which allows the officials to by force, if needed, put me into a hospital.


Basically I think this kind of actions should be followed up on immediately, and the investigation should be swift so we don't have innocent people sitting incarcerated for this long.


Listen buddy, I don't know where you live, where you've lived, how you've lived or what you're doing on an online gaming forum while having such little experience with online gaming.

But I can tell you from my long history of multiplayer gaming, and the cumulated knowledge of everything I've seen, heard and experienced, that this isn't out of the ordinary. Hell, with XBox live's CoD and Halo, with League of Legends and other such casual-competitive games, it's even more prevalent now than it used to be. I've seen people rage like hell, and I hold nothing against them, fuck I'm not ashamed to admit that I've raged like hell too, and not only once. But it's ok. It's ok to be upset when someone on your team fucks up, or when you fuck up, or when you lose. It's ok, because it's passing. It's called competitive spirit, and anyone who's ever been competitive in anything, sports, board games, gambling, you name it, any of those people will at least understand the sentiment.

You for some reason, don't seem to. Therein lies the problem...

I find it quite funny you think I have little experience with online gaming when we're posting on teamliquid.

This wasn't an in-game chat, this was on Facebook, which you seem to ignore for some reason.


Oh you're right.

It's on Facebook, therefore it must be personal and have nothing to do with very evident prior motives from inside the game... I guess everything our SC2 pros say on Twitter should be completely disregarded, because it's on Twitter, surely it can't have anything to do with the game right?

Listen. I don't know why you're being so painfully obtuse about this, but this is only an extension of someone caring too much about a game, which again harkens back to my point about being competitive. It doesn't matter how he said it, he could've gone to the window and just yelled "FUCK" until his neighbours' windows all cracked, or smashed his keyboard into his monitor, it's the exact same thing. In fact his course of action should be perceived by any rational human being as the least destructive option.

If you consider threatning with killing kids as the least destructive option I don't really know what to say.

People commit crimes of violence for trivial things every single day in all societies: homicide, assaults and suicides can be prevented if people act on these cases. I'd much rather have a potential threat be in custody in the few days of investigation needed and seeing another tradegy.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
June 30 2013 13:17 GMT
#155
On June 30 2013 22:16 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 22:07 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:03 Jek wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:26 Jek wrote:

@MasterOfPuppets: How do you KNOW there's nothing in it?

To be honest, I don't know how to phrase this without sounding arrogant so please bear with me, I don't think the people in uproar has any idea how it is to have a mental disorder - which this kid might very well have - I have a bipolar disorder which if I forget my meds and trigger a fully-blown manic period I have the potential to be a threat to myself and my surroundings, I'm glad to know I have a red mark in my journal which allows the officials to by force, if needed, put me into a hospital.


Basically I think this kind of actions should be followed up on immediately, and the investigation should be swift so we don't have innocent people sitting incarcerated for this long.


Listen buddy, I don't know where you live, where you've lived, how you've lived or what you're doing on an online gaming forum while having such little experience with online gaming.

But I can tell you from my long history of multiplayer gaming, and the cumulated knowledge of everything I've seen, heard and experienced, that this isn't out of the ordinary. Hell, with XBox live's CoD and Halo, with League of Legends and other such casual-competitive games, it's even more prevalent now than it used to be. I've seen people rage like hell, and I hold nothing against them, fuck I'm not ashamed to admit that I've raged like hell too, and not only once. But it's ok. It's ok to be upset when someone on your team fucks up, or when you fuck up, or when you lose. It's ok, because it's passing. It's called competitive spirit, and anyone who's ever been competitive in anything, sports, board games, gambling, you name it, any of those people will at least understand the sentiment.

You for some reason, don't seem to. Therein lies the problem...

I find it quite funny you think I have little experience with online gaming when we're posting on teamliquid.

This wasn't an in-game chat, this was on Facebook, which you seem to ignore for some reason.


Oh you're right.

It's on Facebook, therefore it must be personal and have nothing to do with very evident prior motives from inside the game... I guess everything our SC2 pros say on Twitter should be completely disregarded, because it's on Twitter, surely it can't have anything to do with the game right?

Listen. I don't know why you're being so painfully obtuse about this, but this is only an extension of someone caring too much about a game, which again harkens back to my point about being competitive. It doesn't matter how he said it, he could've gone to the window and just yelled "FUCK" until his neighbours' windows all cracked, or smashed his keyboard into his monitor, it's the exact same thing. In fact his course of action should be perceived by any rational human being as the least destructive option.

If you consider threatning with killing kids as the least destructive option I don't really know what to say.

People commit crimes of violence for trivial things every single day in all societies: homicide, assaults and suicides can be prevented if people act on these cases. I'd much rather have a potential threat be in custody in the few days of investigation needed and seeing another tradegy.


It's not a threat.
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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
June 30 2013 13:17 GMT
#156
Meh that kid is fine, albeit stupid. Lots of people are stupid at age 19 though, before life sort of straightens them out. The great irony is that 8 years in those worthless prisons may turn him into an actual threat to society. Sad.
Kamais Ookin
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada591 Posts
June 30 2013 13:17 GMT
#157
On June 30 2013 22:15 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
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On June 30 2013 22:14 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:11 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:08 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:07 Prog455 wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:50 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 30 2013 21:46 Plansix wrote:
A valuable lesson to all. Don't say stupid shit on the internet. Its a bit unreasonable, but that is not a joke you make. Its sort of like posting "I'm building a bomb" and then just putting "JK, its totally fine". If you live near me, I'm still going to call someone to confirm you are not, in fact, building a bomb.


It's ok to have someone confirm their intentions, it's NOT ok at all to jail them for numerous months (facing 8 years) without any form of investigation or background-check.

If I say that I am going to shoot someone and they believe me, I can be sent to jail, even if I did not intend to do so. Threats of doing something is still a crime.

I do agree that 8 years is a lot, though. Still, I need to know more and if he pushed it to trial, rather than plea out.


I don't know about US, but at least in Denmark a person can not be punished for threats, unless the person is aware that his threats might actually cause fear.

I am genuinely curious if American law considers the intention of the act when judging. In Denmark a person must have had an evil intent in order to be punished, unless the law states otherwise. At this point it is my impression that US law has gotten rid of any thing remotely related to common sense, and it would easy my mind to be proven wrong in this matter.

It does and fear is important. But guess what, if you post shit like this on the internet, with limited context, it can cause a lot of fear.


You're completely right, I pissed myself and started crying when some twerp threatened to find me and kill me and my family because I owned him in some game...

-_-

Except it was on facebook and was reported by someone who didn't know the kid. Look, if you want to say this stuff, set your facebook to private.

Look, I can't go out in public and say I am going to shoot up a school and eat the children's hearts. I will be fucking arrested, because people who don't know me will report me. This guy did it on facebook.


So what's the moral here? That Facebook is given infinitely more power than a site should ever really have?
The moral of this story apparently is that if someone doesn't know what "lol" and "jk" stand for, you're fucked.
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m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 13:18:43
June 30 2013 13:17 GMT
#158
Look, I can't go out in public and say I am going to shoot up a school and eat the children's hearts. I will be fucking arrested, because people who don't know me will report me. This guy did it on facebook.


If you actually believe that, i don't know what to say.

But i actually do think you're smart enough to now that jackshit will happen. The police will pick you up and make a background check, that's it.

I'd much rather have a potential threat be in custody in the few days of investigation needed and seeing another tradegy.


4 months. Not "few days".
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 13:18:17
June 30 2013 13:17 GMT
#159
On June 30 2013 22:07 m4inbrain wrote:
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You do know the UK is the worlds greatest offender of locking up people for saying dumb shit on facebook, right?


I don't. Feel free to show me.


Not to go really off topic with it, but there have been numerous cases of the UK arresting and/or improsoning people for people saying stupid shit on facebook and twitter. At least this one in Texas is just morons thinking someone made a threat, not someone being "mean" online and being locked up for it. Just a few links i found.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oct/08/april-jones-teenager-jailed-facebook

http://news.yahoo.com/uk-twitter-facebook-rants-land-jail-081322573--finance.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/27/student-jailed-fabrice-muamba-tweets
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
June 30 2013 13:18 GMT
#160
On June 30 2013 22:14 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
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On June 30 2013 22:12 Goibon wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:10 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:08 Sokrates wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:06 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:04 NovaTheFeared wrote:
On June 30 2013 22:03 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Is dark comedy illegal now?


It is if Texas has its way. These actions by the state are infringements on 1st Amendment rights. It's absolutely disgusting.

You don't have the right to threaten people with bodily harm under the 1st Amendment. Dark comedy requires context, which facebook does not provide.


You dont get this. You cant compare the internet to the real world since everyone treats the internet differnt than the real world NO MATTER WHAT if it should be that way. Fact is on the internet people act differntly than in the real world.

If you go out on the real world and threaten people to kill or rape them you gotta be in trouble. In the internet it is a thing you hear everyday.


Some people really don't seem to get this for some reason...

I get it, i just don't agree with it, and that's probably why this story brings such joy to my heart.


And what brings joy to my heart is that worldwide internet censorship is improbable to ever happen, no matter how much people like you would crave it.

I think it might. Lawmakers will catch up to the internet eventually. They're still so far behind because they're all old and stupid and don't get it. Once the people in charge are my age things will be different and internet behaviour will have the same or at least similar repurcussions as it does in the real world.
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