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On June 30 2013 21:46 Plansix wrote:
A valuable lesson to all. Don't say stupid shit on the internet. Its a bit unreasonable, but that is not a joke you make. Its sort of like posting "I'm building a bomb" and then just putting "JK, its totally fine". If you live near me, I'm still going to call someone to confirm you are not, in fact, building a bomb.
It's ok to have someone confirm their intentions, it's NOT ok at all to jail them for numerous months (facing 8 years) without any form of investigation or background-check.
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so if u forget to logout from facebook and someone posts something like that on ur facebook, gonna get jailed son
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On June 30 2013 21:48 teddyoojo wrote:
so if u forget to logout from facebook and someone posts something like that on ur facebook, gonna get jailed son
What? Your made up scenario has nothing to do with the OP.
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On June 30 2013 21:48 teddyoojo wrote:
so if u forget to logout from facebook and someone posts something like that on ur facebook, gonna get jailed son
if you're dumb enough to have such "friends" around you, you deserve your jailtime ;P
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On June 30 2013 21:46 Plansix wrote:
A valuable lesson to all. Don't say stupid shit on the internet. Its a bit unreasonable, but that is not a joke you make. Its sort of like posting "I'm building a bomb" and then just putting "JK, its totally fine". If you live near me, I'm still going to call someone to confirm you are not, in fact, building a bomb.
Let's take it a bit further. The thread was about a kid going apeshit in a school, you suddenly talk about building bombs. Better send someone to check your house, because MAYBE there is a reason why you said bomb instead of something else.
Hm. Easier than i thought to be an american.
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On June 30 2013 21:46 Plansix wrote:
A valuable lesson to all. Don't say stupid shit on the internet. Its a bit unreasonable, but that is not a joke you make. Its sort of like posting "I'm building a bomb" and then just putting "JK, its totally fine". If you live near me, I'm still going to call someone to confirm you are not, in fact, building a bomb.
If someone says "you are gonna get raped" at the start of the game, you better make sure you dont get raped...
(and i didnt mean that you call the authorities but win the game).
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Right. So George Carlin and Bill Hicks would deserves what, 9001 death penalties?
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On June 30 2013 21:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 21:46 Plansix wrote:
A valuable lesson to all. Don't say stupid shit on the internet. Its a bit unreasonable, but that is not a joke you make. Its sort of like posting "I'm building a bomb" and then just putting "JK, its totally fine". If you live near me, I'm still going to call someone to confirm you are not, in fact, building a bomb. It's ok to have someone confirm their intentions, it's NOT ok at all to jail them for numerous months (facing 8 years) without any form of investigation or background-check.
If I say that I am going to shoot someone and they believe me, I can be sent to jail, even if I did not intend to do so. Threats of doing something is still a crime.
I do agree that 8 years is a lot, though. Still, I need to know more and if he pushed it to trial, rather than plea out. And if that is the maximum sentence, then its not even a problem.
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Screw worrying about the NSA, I'm going to be scared that some creepy lady in Canada is going to google what I live by...
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On June 30 2013 21:42 NovaTheFeared wrote:
You know what a reasonable response to this "threat" would be? To have an investigation, which would determine if he was serious or not, which appears to be OBVIOUSLY NOT and let that be that. You have to investigate on the complaint in the context of Newtown, but to charge with a crime and possibly sentence the kid to 8 years? That's horribly unjust.
This, seriously.
His actual speech is completely protected and not at all illegal in this context because his "threat" had no credibility and could not reasonably be argued to have been intended to incite a panic. If they want to convict him with a crime like "terrorist activities" (which would still be horribly inappropriate because a guy randomly shooting up a school is totally different from a terrorist doing it for political reasons, but the laws governing that stuff have become incredibly broad in scope so it might fit), they need hard evidence that he was actually planning some kind of attack.
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He might get convicted but he won't get eight years, court will look at the intention behind the threat and the persons willingness to actually carry it through. It's pretty obvious it was some stupid crap he just said, further it was on facebook. He prolly will get find guilty but I doubt it will be that severe.
But hey, main thing is that we sold plenty of newspaper, right?
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On June 30 2013 21:51 RoKetha wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 21:42 NovaTheFeared wrote:
You know what a reasonable response to this "threat" would be? To have an investigation, which would determine if he was serious or not, which appears to be OBVIOUSLY NOT and let that be that. You have to investigate on the complaint in the context of Newtown, but to charge with a crime and possibly sentence the kid to 8 years? That's horribly unjust. This, seriously. His actual speech is completely protected and not at all illegal in this context because his "threat" had no credibility and could not reasonably be argued to have been intended to incite a panic. If they want to convict him with a crime like "terrorist activities" (which would still be horribly inappropriate because a guy randomly shooting up a school is totally different from a terrorist doing it for political reasons, but the laws governing that stuff have become incredibly broad in scope so it might fit), they need hard evidence that he was actually planning some kind of attack.
The threat of doing the think is still a crime. You cannot threaten to do things that are illegal, especially bodily harm to others. 8 years is a long time, but do not post this shit of facebook for all to see.
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On June 30 2013 21:51 DannyJ wrote:
Screw worrying about the NSA, I'm going to be scared that some creepy lady in Canada is going to google what I live by...
you dont need to be worried as long as you dont threaten to kill people which is, as im sure you are aware of, illegal
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People are fucking retarded. No, I mean it. To jail this person for a rage comment you have to be mentally challenged.
Do they even understand that if they acted against every offensive comment on the internet millions of innocent people would be in jail right now, for no reason beyond fear-mongering.
Whatever happened to kids will be kids? He made a stupid comment... haven't we all? Either to friends, on an online game, in chat programs, forums, etc?
People that have never played video games or don't understand the internet shouldn't have any form of power or legal foothold against others for what is said on the internet... Soon enough they will want to jail people for killing people in video games or taunting them after they killed or beat an opponent.
I can't even coherently form a post for this crap, it's so god damn stupid and I feel terrible for the kid.
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On June 30 2013 21:51 DannyJ wrote:
Screw worrying about the NSA, I'm going to be scared that some creepy lady in Canada is going to google what I live by...
well you can thank facebook for that one i guess
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On June 30 2013 21:55 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 21:51 DannyJ wrote:
Screw worrying about the NSA, I'm going to be scared that some creepy lady in Canada is going to google what I live by... you dont need to be worried as long as you dont threaten to kill people which is, as im sure you are aware of, illegal
Joking is not. And you're not to judge if a joke meets "joke-criteria".
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On June 30 2013 21:54 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 21:51 RoKetha wrote:On June 30 2013 21:42 NovaTheFeared wrote:
You know what a reasonable response to this "threat" would be? To have an investigation, which would determine if he was serious or not, which appears to be OBVIOUSLY NOT and let that be that. You have to investigate on the complaint in the context of Newtown, but to charge with a crime and possibly sentence the kid to 8 years? That's horribly unjust. This, seriously. His actual speech is completely protected and not at all illegal in this context because his "threat" had no credibility and could not reasonably be argued to have been intended to incite a panic. If they want to convict him with a crime like "terrorist activities" (which would still be horribly inappropriate because a guy randomly shooting up a school is totally different from a terrorist doing it for political reasons, but the laws governing that stuff have become incredibly broad in scope so it might fit), they need hard evidence that he was actually planning some kind of attack. The threat of doing the think is still a crime. You cannot threaten to do things that are illegal, especially bodily harm to others. 8 years is a long time, but do not post this shit of facebook for all to see.
Oh wait what was your point of view regarding abortions again?
In case of an abortion : well shit can happen to anyone.
Now here: Omfg should be punished and jailed.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On June 30 2013 21:56 teddyoojo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 21:51 DannyJ wrote:
Screw worrying about the NSA, I'm going to be scared that some creepy lady in Canada is going to google what I live by... well you can thank facebook for that one i guess
facebook didnt force him to threaten to kill people
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On June 30 2013 21:55 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 21:51 DannyJ wrote:
Screw worrying about the NSA, I'm going to be scared that some creepy lady in Canada is going to google what I live by... you dont need to be worried as long as you dont threaten to kill people which is, as im sure you are aware of, illegal
Wait, so I can't threaten to kill everyone in my town, on Facebook and provide no context for the comments? I was not aware I didn't have this freedom to be an idiot on that scale.
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OMFG FOR REAL???
this shit it so messed up, just another sign that autorithy has no clue how the current society works lol.
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