EPTRage during LoL game, face 8 years in prison - Page 3
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
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sparC
Germany162 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:10 Jek wrote: Since I've spawned quite a few replies I'll try to address them in one post as well as I can. @MasterOfPuppters: In my opinion he should have been thrown directly into psychiatric hospital and evaluation for the time being. A psychiatric hospital isn't as bad as people appearently think - I've been there, trust me it's not like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.  @Scares: No it wouldn't be fun. It wouldn't be fun either if he made actions of his statements. @SparC: Slander isn't anything like making public statements about slaughtering kids. I do consider keeping him in jail for that long to be preposterous. It does not take that long to make a psychiatric evaluation or search his house for evidence. To be honest I think people are too quick about writing everything off as freedom of speech, but that'd be a discussion for another thread I suppose. if this was a public threat than it was also public slander. where do you draw the line? what is just barely ok to say in public and what more has to change so someone will get imprisoned for joking? | ||
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TheRealArtemis
687 Posts
Spewing random stuff on the internet, thinking they are immune should be punished. But 8 years is way too much. I think the almost 6 months he have spend in jail is more then enough to make him rethink his life. Making 9/11 jokes and saying to shoot up schools isnt funny. I bet that kid isnt lol'ing anymore. | ||
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Drunken.Jedi
Germany446 Posts
Frankly, the only ones who deserve some jail time are the uniformed thugs who who threw this kid in prison and sociopaths who made laws that allow this. | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:17 TheRealArtemis wrote: I dont know about this case. To me its clear he doesnt deserve 8 years for saying offensive remarks on the internet. However, saying to shoot up a school and living near a school is a bad idea. So it comes Down to that people better watch what they say. Spewing random stuff on the internet, thinking they are immune should be punished. But 8 years is way too much. I think the almost 6 months he have spend in jail is more then enough to make him rethink his life. Making 9/11 jokes and saying to shoot up schools isnt funny. I bet that kid isnt lol'ing anymore. if it isn't funny, just don't laugh | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:10 Jek wrote: Since I've spawned quite a few replies I'll try to address them in one post as well as I can. @MasterOfPuppters: In my opinion he should have been thrown directly into psychiatric hospital and evaluation for the time being. A psychiatric hospital isn't as bad as people appearently think - I've been there, trust me it's not like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. @Scares: No it wouldn't be fun. It wouldn't be fun either if he made actions of his statements. @SparC: Slander isn't anything like making public statements about slaughtering kids. I do consider keeping him in jail for that long to be preposterous. It does not take that long to make a psychiatric evaluation or search his house for evidence. To be honest I think people are too quick about writing everything off as freedom of speech, but that'd be a discussion for another thread I suppose. The only people who need psychiatric treatment are those who fail so miserably at discerning between obvious venting and a legitimate terrorist threat or even violence threat in general. Honestly, there's NOTHING ambiguous here... On June 30 2013 21:17 Drunken.Jedi wrote: I'm absolutely shocked at the idiocy and moral depravity of some of the commenters here. How can any reasonable person seriously think that someone making a bad joke deserves to be locked in prison where there's a good chance he'll be beaten or raped? Frankly, the only ones who deserve some jail time are the uniformed thugs who who threw this kid in prison and sociopaths who made laws that allow this. ^ This. | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23570 Posts
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pluu.mooh
Austria142 Posts
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dotHead
United States233 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:14 Erasme wrote: time to do some satanic stuff in texas, ill eat the heart of a thousand virgins lol jk This is really fucked up if you can't even make bad jokes on the internet... I guess those people believe anything on the internet I'm calling the cops right now. | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
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sparC
Germany162 Posts
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GettingIt
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:23 Musicus wrote: I know so many people who would've to be arrested for making threats in online games... oh my god only in the US or I guess Texas is it possible. I can't believe it and still kinda think this has to be a joke. He is in jail since february? I am too shocked to express my thoughts. It wasn't in a game, it was on facebook, at least according to most reports. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
@Drunken.Jedi: I doubt he's thrown into a jail where there's a good chance he'll be beaten or raped. First of all, how does one know it's a bad joke? How does you know he does not have a mental disorder, where immediate treatment is a great benefit for him and his surroundings. @MasterOfPuppets: How do you KNOW there's nothing in it? To be honest, I don't know how to phrase this without sounding arrogant so please bear with me, I don't think the people in uproar has any idea how it is to have a mental disorder - which this kid might very well have - I have a bipolar disorder which if I forget my meds and trigger a fully-blown manic period I have the potential to be a threat to myself and my surroundings, I'm glad to know I have a red mark in my journal which allows the officials to by force, if needed, put me into a hospital. Basically I think this kind of actions should be followed up on immediately, and the investigation should be swift so we don't have innocent people sitting incarcerated for this long. | ||
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Prog455
Denmark970 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:00 Jek wrote: Are they threatning the public, with what is in fact an act of terrorism? Being charged is not equal to being a terrorist. Consider saying his statement in public, wouldn't you be concerned? I would. There's a precendence for these kind of statements being written online, Breivik for instance, I'd rather the goverment follow up on these cases and potentially prevent a tragedy than writing all threats off as freedom of speech. This has nothing to do with terrorism, and shoot outs in general should not be confused with terrorism. According to 18 USC § 2331: (5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that— (A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; (B) appear to be intended— (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States. While (ii) and (iii) can both be immediately dismissed, as his motives are obviously not political motivated, it is also evident that his motives are no to "intimidate or coerce a civilian population", given the fact that this "threat" was targeted towards a single person. Also i highly doubt that jokes, which it obviously was, is considered an act of terror. Would i be concerned if this was said in public? Yes of course i would. But seeing that this was in fact said during a game of League of Legends, i see no reason for alarm. If every threat that was uttered in an online multiplayer game, every other person who ever touched a video game would have to go to jail. I feel sorry for Justin Carter and i am happy that i am not born in a place where the legal system is such an abomination. | ||
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sparC
Germany162 Posts
On June 30 2013 21:26 Jek wrote: @SparC: Well, if he's proven innocent I wouldn't mind if he charged the lady with public slandering. Again, I think throwing him into a prison (do we know if this is a closed or open prison?) is an overreaction and would rather see him in mental evaluation and in a hospital/being in observation for the time being. They should have been able to reach a conclussion much faster. @Drunken.Jedi: I doubt he's thrown into a jail where there's a good chance he'll be beaten or raped. First of all, how does one know it's a bad joke? How does you know he does not have a mental disorder, where immediate treatment is a great benefit for him and his surroundings. To be honest, I don't know how to phrase this without sounding arrogant so please bear with me, I don't think the people in uproar has any idea how it is to have a mental disorder - which this kid might very well have - I have a bipolar disorder which if I forget my meds I have the potential to be a threat to myself and my surroundings, I'm glad to know I have a red mark in my journal which allows the officials to by force, if needed, put me into a hospital. exactly, we should just imprison and double/triple check everyone who only hints the smallest kind of threat no matter in what way. bravo | ||
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PerryHooter
Sweden268 Posts
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Too_MuchZerg
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