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On June 30 2013 20:53 zul wrote:
what the f*** ??? If this is a precedent, the police will arrest thousands of more people for similar comments.
Since forever activists warn about the danger that innocent citizens will get pursued as terrorists and charged with insane sentences. This is a new low point and needs to be stoped. People need to stand up and actually fight for this to be stoped.
See here's the thing:
The average folk, as depicted by our poster Lurtzer in this very thread, will not fight for freedom of speech because they don't understand concepts like "Devil's advocate", or more relevantly to this case, just spouting bullshit due to frustration for a few minutes before settling down. They legitimately believe that anyone who makes such comments actually has a problem...
-_-
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On June 30 2013 20:48 Lurtzer wrote:
If someone says think like that, he cant be normal. I think it is good that they take care of him before he would actually do something terrible over frustration about video game, but I think Psychiatric hospital would be better decision then jail.
So that should also count for all the people who say things like "get cancer" and "I hope you parents die" and other things when raging over a loss? And what about the imba imba flames, because those people are also getting frustrated because of a video game? so where do you draw the line?
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On June 30 2013 20:54 Jek wrote:
Well, he did post it on an public forum (Facebook) and as thus it should be considered an terrorism threat in my opinion since it's what it in fact is. He'll face a trial and if considered innocent he'll be released, to be honest I consider it a win-win situation. If he's considered a public threat he'll be locked away and if he's not he has learned a valuable leason.
Are IdrA, Nerchio, Destiny etc terrorists too?
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On June 30 2013 20:53 DannyJ wrote:
Meh, bring it back up if he's actually convicted (of anything at all).
Really? The fact that this kid spent his 19th birthday behind bars for a statement so obviously sarcastic doesnt bother you?
This is just idiotic ^^
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On June 30 2013 20:57 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 20:54 Jek wrote:
Well, he did post it on an public forum (Facebook) and as thus it should be considered an terrorism threat in my opinion since it's what it in fact is. He'll face a trial and if considered innocent he'll be released, to be honest I consider it a win-win situation. If he's considered a public threat he'll be locked away and if he's not he has learned a valuable leason. Are IdrA, Nerchio, Destiny etc terrorists too?
IdrA needs to immediately be arrested for making terroristic threats against David Kim.
/sarcasm
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On June 30 2013 20:55 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 20:53 DannyJ wrote:
Meh, bring it back up if he's actually convicted (of anything at all). He's been in jail for 4 months now...
Ahh didn't read carefully enough.
That's pretty crazy... and thought the US was impervious to UK/Euro style assaults on freedom of speech...
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Great.. now we'll have people threatening with legal action whenever mid lane is lost
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On June 30 2013 20:57 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 20:54 Jek wrote:
Well, he did post it on an public forum (Facebook) and as thus it should be considered an terrorism threat in my opinion since it's what it in fact is. He'll face a trial and if considered innocent he'll be released, to be honest I consider it a win-win situation. If he's considered a public threat he'll be locked away and if he's not he has learned a valuable leason. Are IdrA, Nerchio, Destiny etc terrorists too?
Are they threatning the public, with what is in fact an act of terrorism? Being charged is not equal to being a terrorist.
Consider saying his statement in public, wouldn't you be concerned? I would. There's a precendence for these kind of statements being written online, Breivik for instance, I'd rather the goverment follow up on these cases and potentially prevent a tragedy than writing all threats off as freedom of speech.
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On June 30 2013 20:48 czylu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 20:47 Subversive wrote:On June 30 2013 20:44 czylu wrote:
as a LOL player, i think this kid deserves everything he gets. Does any1 buy that this kid had no clue of the Newtown Shootings? He must be living under a rock. Mild trolling, 8 years in prison. Seems reasonable. Jesus Christ what is wrong with you? It's called context and time frame. The kid did this in February, barely 2 months from when a 19 year old grabbed a rifle and killed 30 people in an elementary school. This close to a nationally covered mass shooting, there is no DA/Cop in the country that was gonna let a statement like that go unpunished. And frankly, the kid deserves some jail time for being that stupid.
There is nothing stupid about ignoring the rampant misinformation and political propaganda that constitutes conventional news sources. In fact the people who are stupid are those who watch that pathetic glorification of criminals (the fact taht they're getting this much public attention is the reason why they do retarded acts like this anyway) and disgusting politicization regarding gun control laws and so on...
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On June 30 2013 21:00 Jek wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 20:57 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On June 30 2013 20:54 Jek wrote:
Well, he did post it on an public forum (Facebook) and as thus it should be considered an terrorism threat in my opinion since it's what it in fact is. He'll face a trial and if considered innocent he'll be released, to be honest I consider it a win-win situation. If he's considered a public threat he'll be locked away and if he's not he has learned a valuable leason. Are IdrA, Nerchio, Destiny etc terrorists too? Are they threatning the public, with what is in fact an act of terrorism? Being charged is not equal to being a terrorist. Consider saying his statement in public, wouldn't you be concerned? I would. There's a precendence for these kind of statements being written online, Breivik for instance, I'd rather the goverment follow up on these cases and potentially prevent a tragedy than writing all threats off as freedom of speech.
Instant jailing still seems hard to me. I mean meaybe very maybe sending someone out to check this kid out and sending him to a therapist, but immediate jail? I mean imagine if you bm someone and suddenly a police force stands outside and takes you away? Wouldn't that be fun?
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On June 30 2013 20:54 Jek wrote:
Well, he did post it on an public forum (Facebook) and as thus it should be considered an terrorism threat in my opinion since it's what it in fact is. He'll face a trial and if considered innocent he'll be released, to be honest I consider it a win-win situation. If he's considered a public threat he'll be locked away and if he's not he has learned a valuable leason.
yea and the other guy should go to prison for slander right?
today ppl go to prison for jokes, tomorrow for thought-crime. /clap
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On June 30 2013 21:00 Jek wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 20:57 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On June 30 2013 20:54 Jek wrote:
Well, he did post it on an public forum (Facebook) and as thus it should be considered an terrorism threat in my opinion since it's what it in fact is. He'll face a trial and if considered innocent he'll be released, to be honest I consider it a win-win situation. If he's considered a public threat he'll be locked away and if he's not he has learned a valuable leason. Are IdrA, Nerchio, Destiny etc terrorists too? Are they threatning the public, with what is in fact an act of terrorism? Being charged is not equal to being a terrorist. Consider saying his statement in public, wouldn't you be concerned? I would. There's a precendence for these kind of statements being written online, Breivik for instance, I'd rather the goverment follow up on these cases and potentially prevent a tragedy than writing all threats off as freedom of speech.
So how about do some research into this kid and his background instead of just throwing his ass into jail?
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I'm all for some real consequences for saying senseless things online, but this is a bit over the top...
Maybe shutting him off from internet for a year or two, and give him some social work or something. Maybe some fine to the other people that got upset. That would be around right level of punishment I guess.
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Not being very knowledgeable about the US justice system, I hope someone can tell me why the 1st ammendment didn't cover this? I saw the 1st ammendment briefly mentioned in the OP but not any reasons for why they could imprison him despite it.
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The good ol' internet growing pains. For too long the internet has been a place where you can harass people endlessly with no repercussions and it has to stop. That said, once the establishment gets their claws into anything it becomes a matter of life and death. Over the next fifty years or so I think we will find some balance on the scale between cyber bullying teens into suicide and ridiculous legal shenanigans like this.
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Since I've spawned quite a few replies I'll try to address them in one post as well as I can.
@MasterOfPuppters: In my opinion he should have been thrown directly into psychiatric hospital and evaluation for the time being. A psychiatric hospital isn't as bad as people appearently think - I've been there, trust me it's not like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. 
@Scares: No it wouldn't be fun. It wouldn't be fun either if he made actions of his statements.
@SparC: Slander isn't anything like making public statements about slaughtering kids.
I do consider keeping him in jail for that long to be preposterous. It does not take that long to make a psychiatric evaluation or search his house for evidence.
To be honest I think people are too quick about writing everything off as freedom of speech, but that'd be a discussion for another thread I suppose.
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On June 30 2013 21:04 Cascade wrote:
I'm all for some real consequences for saying senseless things online, but this is a bit over the top...
Maybe shutting him off from internet for a year or two, and give him some social work or something. Maybe some fine to the other people that got upset. That would be around right level of punishment I guess.
once you start with that, it'll never stop there.
sooner or later it becomes ciminal if you disagree with your countries politics or whatever.
it's always the same, it's not like this kind of stuff hasn't happened before.
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Even without "lol" and "jk" what he said is already so crazy you can't take that shit seriously, even less if you are a cop and deal with real dangerous people day to day. A kid saying one single silly phrase, without anything to back it up (guns, training, plans, anything) and you call that a terrorist threat?
What what what
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time to do some satanic stuff in texas, ill eat the heart of a thousand virgins
lol jk
This is really fucked up if you can't even make bad jokes on the internet...
I guess those people believe anything on the internet
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