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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Gaizokubanou
Profile Joined April 2013
United States61 Posts
June 13 2013 22:41 GMT
#6141
Name: Kairo
Server: NA
Profile: starcraft://profile/1/4865385145282068480
Replay: http://drop.sc/342697

This replay was back when Kairo was in diamond but now he's in top 8 masters so I thought I should bring this up.

Few indicators of maphacking are the following.
1. He intercepts my reaper perfectly with his zealot
2. He follows my reaper perfectly with his zealot and stalker long after reaper is completely out of his vision
3. Does one base 4 gate + robo with probe production cut off at 30... then just sit on his ass up to 11+ minute mark because I'm building tanks on high ground and not moving down to my natural (something that he doesn't have vision of)
4. Around 10 minute mark I send out a drop. He has zero vision of it but warps in 3 stalkers at home then places them directly where the drop is heading, again with no vision.

Pretty sure this Kairo guy is maphacking but you guys be the judge of that.
BallsOfSteel
Profile Joined September 2010
United States57 Posts
June 15 2013 03:16 GMT
#6142
Name: dAmndeXx
Server: NA
Profile
Replay

He goes for 2Gate on Derilect Watcher TE and sends the Probe to the normal spot. This happens to me enough that I rallied my Overlord to that spot before sending it out across the map..

Evidence:
1:15 - He looks at the Overlord coming through FoW and dodges around it before settling on another part of my base.

After seeing his strange behavior in the replay, I checked his match history. He 2Gates every game, including 4 spawn maps.
I try to put the fear of God in my opponents, but I settle for the fear of me.
paoskie
Profile Joined June 2013
Philippines9 Posts
June 15 2013 09:28 GMT
#6143
Hacker: GenXGiraffe
Server: NA
League: Not Ranked
Replay: http://drop.sc/343411
Description:

1. Performed a 2 or 3 rax fast cheese on me

2. He never scouted where I am.

3. It's a 4 player map.

4. HE KNOWS MY BASE LOCATION
In the end everyone is human.
FpSsSlayeR
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany22 Posts
June 15 2013 09:47 GMT
#6144
On June 15 2013 18:28 paoskie wrote:
Hacker: GenXGiraffe
Server: NA
League: Not Ranked
Replay: http://drop.sc/343411
Description:

1. Performed a 2 or 3 rax fast cheese on me

2. He never scouted where I am.

3. It's a 4 player map.

4. HE KNOWS MY BASE LOCATION


Star Station spawn positions are always forced cross spawn
On June 19 2012 02:35 Liquid`NonY wrote: Are you seriously upset about people on TL.net knowing a god damn TSL champion? Get a grip son.
notavailable
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany1 Post
June 15 2013 12:31 GMT
#6145
(HOA)elanobissen is a maphacker .... he didnt scout each game but he now's where my I'm and which build I play
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
June 15 2013 12:32 GMT
#6146
On June 15 2013 21:31 notavailable wrote:
(HOA)elanobissen is a maphacker .... he didnt scout each game but he now's where my I'm and which build I play

At least give a replay link instead of making a useless post like this.
paoskie
Profile Joined June 2013
Philippines9 Posts
June 15 2013 12:50 GMT
#6147
Hacker: IIIIIIIIIIII
Server: NA
League: Gold
Replay: http://drop.sc/343443
Description:

1. Blindly made turrets for defense vs my mutas. HE NEVER SCOUTED MY SPIRE.

2. Scanned on top of my army. No miss. Like my army was the center. One time scan.

3. I believe he's acting like he's not map hacking. But he is.
In the end everyone is human.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
June 15 2013 13:04 GMT
#6148
Added a mod note, please stop reporting hackers without posting any actual evidence/proof.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
June 15 2013 13:04 GMT
#6149
On June 15 2013 22:04 KadaverBB wrote:
Added a mod note, please stop reporting hackers without posting any actual evidence/proof.

Finally, thank you.
viasacra89
Profile Joined January 2012
United States134 Posts
June 15 2013 15:59 GMT
#6150
Hacker: llllllllllll
Server: NA
League: Platinum
Replay: http://drop.sc/343469http://drop.sc/343469
Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4510849/1/llllllllllll/
Description: Maphack. While the blind rax rally doesn't mean anything it did raise suspicion. More than anything, his match history speaks for itself. Also, his account's been on this thread before.
viasacra89
Profile Joined January 2012
United States134 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-15 16:02:22
June 15 2013 16:02 GMT
#6151
-doublepost-
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-15 17:38:42
June 15 2013 17:35 GMT
#6152
Name: IIIIIIIIIIII
Server: EU
League: Master
Replay: http://drop.sc/344025
Profile: starcraft://profile/2/8894022146322333696
Description: Think he was maphacking. It's hard to tell, since he rarely looks into fog of war(but it does happen), but he has always almost perfect positioning and sometimes responds to what I'm doing without scouting. The fact he goes basically anti mech without scouting it isn't very conclusive, since I met him a game before and went mech. It's still a fairly big gamble.
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9:14 - Moves his army into position just as my drop is about to enter his base
9:40 - Notice how he has no defense at his front, without any vision outside his base and not having scouted anything...
12:45 - After having put a 2nd cannon when my dropship was returning to his base, he now checks a pretty random place in the fog of war, very close to my dropship(actually where my rally on the dropship is). Not conclusive, but very random.
13:30 - Responds to another drop before he sees it. Admittedly he might've been putting his drop defense back in position, but yeah...
14:30 - I don't know, he meets me in the middle of the map. He might've just been ready to push out, but the way he walks just infront of my army before stopping seems like he anticipates me there.
17:25 - Seems to be checking my base out through fog of war
21:30 - Sends his army to the side to attack my 4th before scouted. Admittedly it's very likely there is going to be a 4th there, but still.
21:51 - Starts backing away from the 4th before he sees my army coming. Again it might just be that he assumes it must be pretty close, or sees the scvs repairing and assumes it's because the army is coming, but yeah...
24:35 - Is about to move towards me, but suddenly backs off when my army comes close to him(without scouting).
24:47 - Looks at my army coming through fog of war then tries to catch me unsieged
27:26 - Looks at my base into fog of war, checks out turrets?
29:24 - @My 3rd he backs off with his 3 archons and 2 zlots just as my army is about to arive to kill them, without seeing my units
32:15 - I try to catch his colossi out of position with vikings. He sends without seeing them his AA to try to intercept/kill the vikings.
33:24 - He is getting ready to cannon my 4th without actually seeing it. Admittedly it's very likely to be there, but yeah...
34:24 - He responds to me unsieging and moving out by attacking me. I just scanned him, so when a scan fades people tend to move/attack, but I had been scanning him like 3-5 times before that scan without myself moving, so the timing seems odd.


There are some things in there that might just be luck, but the amount of dubious things makes me think maybe not so much. It was a really odd game to play, since he wasn't that good, but he kept catching me out of position, being ready for me and backing off early. Early on I was sure he must've a observer ontop of my army and was desperately searching for it.
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
June 15 2013 17:49 GMT
#6153
On June 15 2013 22:04 KadaverBB wrote:
Added a mod note, please stop reporting hackers without posting any actual evidence/proof.

Should add "Star Station is always cross spawns" lol. So many people think they are playing hackers because of forced spawns on this map TT
TwitteR: @NeverExpo follow me, i'll follow back :)
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 03:48:13
June 16 2013 03:19 GMT
#6154
starcraft://profile/1/11204116971295604736

took a poop on this kids chest then got drophacked (no replay saved) as i won

a level 4 29-0 account


wonder when blizzard will patch drophack :/


edit: I think this was Fubar, who still isn't banned since one logs off, one logs on, both are zergs
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
June 16 2013 03:32 GMT
#6155
More high level players need to use phrases like "Took a poop on this kid's chest".

<3 hendralisk
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
GamerX1000
Profile Joined May 2011
United States11 Posts
June 16 2013 04:50 GMT
#6156
Name: CromWell
Server: EU
League: Master
Replay: http://drop.sc/344162 http://drop.sc/344161
Profile: starcraft://profile/2/15783401472974127104
Description: When my push came, he looked in fog of war and pulled his drones back to his base before i was halfway across the map. He would also snipe my drops without vision, no ovies. And when he tried to backdoor i placed siege tanks on high ground and he ran away as soon as they were being sieged also they didnt fire.
energytank
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 06:40:05
June 16 2013 06:33 GMT
#6157
I created a TL account today just to report this guy. It was irritating.
Replay: http://ggtracker.com/matches/3512958/replay

Name: APanella
Server: NA
League: Silver 2v2
Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1861610/1/APanella/

Description:
5:09 He looks at my teammates base through the fog
5:12 He looks at my base through the fog
6:27 He looks at my teammates base again
7:19 He does it again
8:26 He moves his camera over a drop that I'm about to perform. He doesn't have zel'naga. He is viewing this drop again through the fog.
8:56 He spots my teammates drop as well through the fog.

This guy should be easy to identify as a map hacker since he wasn't freezing his camera before looking directly into the fog at what was going on.

Name: MrTwentyThrE
Server: NA
League: Silver 2v2
Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1279357/1/MrTwentyThrE/


Edit: Added link to profile.
Edit: Added his teammates information as well. Watching through his cam he was doing the same thing.
Slipspace
Profile Joined May 2010
United States381 Posts
June 16 2013 06:35 GMT
#6158
On June 16 2013 12:19 NMxhendralisk wrote:
starcraft://profile/1/11204116971295604736

took a poop on this kids chest then got drophacked (no replay saved) as i won

a level 4 29-0 account


wonder when blizzard will patch drophack :/


edit: I think this was Fubar, who still isn't banned since one logs off, one logs on, both are zergs


yeah played this guy too, drophacker 100%
shizzycs
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania16 Posts
June 16 2013 07:56 GMT
#6159
Hacker name: Silentnight
Server: NA
League: Masters
Description:

http://drop.sc/344172

Doesn't scout. Not even for proxies.
Blind hard counters my blink build.

4:30 - Drops a robo in response to my twilight council on his Production tab.
4:40 - Moves units in position to intercept MSC.
6:00 - Builds only immortals from robo. What if I had gone dts?
7:30 - Moves units back away from ramp, knowing im at his natural.. and then intercepts my stalkers.
9:35 - Begins to move his units back because he sees my incoming msc. But doesn't because he also sees my stalkers outside his natural.
10:40 - Drops a stargate in response to my unscouted stargate.
11:00 - Moves out of natural because he knows im no longer there.
11:20 - Moves back home because he sees me about to attempt a blink into his main
11:25 - Magically goes up his ramp with no vision of where my stalkers are, to intercept them.

The dude is pretty blatant how he moves back and forth to intercept my blink stalkers without actually scouting them. Either this guy is the luckiest man alive, in which case he should buy a lottery ticket.. Or he cheats.

I don't know what good it does reporting cheaters on here.. but whatever I can do to get rid of cheaters I will.

Thanks.
I like.....
DinosaurPoop
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
687 Posts
June 16 2013 13:13 GMT
#6160
On June 15 2013 21:50 paoskie wrote:
Hacker: IIIIIIIIIIII
Server: NA
League: Gold
Replay: http://drop.sc/343443
Description:

1. Blindly made turrets for defense vs my mutas. HE NEVER SCOUTED MY SPIRE.

2. Scanned on top of my army. No miss. Like my army was the center. One time scan.

3. I believe he's acting like he's not map hacking. But he is.

You don't need to see the spire to expect mutas. Really good pros can tell a strategy just by their unit composition alone.
(I didn't watch the replay)
He probably scouted the size of your army, your drone count, and the gas you have invested so far because mutas take up quite a bit of resources.
I don't maphack, but usually I hit the scans dead center too. It's not a game of where the units are, its a game of where the units AREN'T, so he might have just scanned to see if there is NO army there.
Good reading of scouts are underrated IMHO. Lots of ppl don't even know the amount of information in a simple worker scout is available.
When cats speak, mice listen.
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