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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
doggy
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany306 Posts
June 20 2013 09:11 GMT
#6181
On June 20 2013 09:01 Zennith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 08:59 DanielSe wrote:
On June 20 2013 08:13 hellokittySC2 wrote:
Server: NA
Player :Crystax
How : watch replay
http://drop.sc/344883


no he stream his games http://www.twitch.tv/crystax you only lose because you are worse than him but nice try :D


LOL, I love when people say this. People can stream and hack simultaneously, man.



How should that be even possible? You would need a stream overlay that covers everything of your hack, that would be quite obvious if minimap and the area where the production tab is is filled with an overlay.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 20 2013 09:13 GMT
#6182
On June 20 2013 18:11 doggy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 09:01 Zennith wrote:
On June 20 2013 08:59 DanielSe wrote:
On June 20 2013 08:13 hellokittySC2 wrote:
Server: NA
Player :Crystax
How : watch replay
http://drop.sc/344883


no he stream his games http://www.twitch.tv/crystax you only lose because you are worse than him but nice try :D


LOL, I love when people say this. People can stream and hack simultaneously, man.



How should that be even possible? You would need a stream overlay that covers everything of your hack, that would be quite obvious if minimap and the area where the production tab is is filled with an overlay.


You can hide the hack or any other program with StreamPrivacy
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
doggy
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany306 Posts
June 20 2013 09:15 GMT
#6183
On June 20 2013 18:13 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 18:11 doggy wrote:
On June 20 2013 09:01 Zennith wrote:
On June 20 2013 08:59 DanielSe wrote:
On June 20 2013 08:13 hellokittySC2 wrote:
Server: NA
Player :Crystax
How : watch replay
http://drop.sc/344883


no he stream his games http://www.twitch.tv/crystax you only lose because you are worse than him but nice try :D


LOL, I love when people say this. People can stream and hack simultaneously, man.



How should that be even possible? You would need a stream overlay that covers everything of your hack, that would be quite obvious if minimap and the area where the production tab is is filled with an overlay.


You can hide the hack or any other program with StreamPrivacy


Isnt it still quite obvious for the viewer then?
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
June 20 2013 09:18 GMT
#6184
On June 20 2013 18:15 doggy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 18:13 Type|NarutO wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:11 doggy wrote:
On June 20 2013 09:01 Zennith wrote:
On June 20 2013 08:59 DanielSe wrote:
On June 20 2013 08:13 hellokittySC2 wrote:
Server: NA
Player :Crystax
How : watch replay
http://drop.sc/344883


no he stream his games http://www.twitch.tv/crystax you only lose because you are worse than him but nice try :D


LOL, I love when people say this. People can stream and hack simultaneously, man.



How should that be even possible? You would need a stream overlay that covers everything of your hack, that would be quite obvious if minimap and the area where the production tab is is filled with an overlay.


You can hide the hack or any other program with StreamPrivacy


Isnt it still quite obvious for the viewer then?


Unless you're a hacker, odds are you wouldn't think it would be possible and would chalk everything up to luck or being good. For one, I thought you would have to look at another monitor or something.
IRFiasco
Profile Joined June 2011
5 Posts
June 20 2013 09:39 GMT
#6185
Besides HelloKitty is known for very cheesy play, scouting rather early against him isn't very suspicious.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 20 2013 09:43 GMT
#6186
On June 20 2013 18:15 doggy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 18:13 Type|NarutO wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:11 doggy wrote:
On June 20 2013 09:01 Zennith wrote:
On June 20 2013 08:59 DanielSe wrote:
On June 20 2013 08:13 hellokittySC2 wrote:
Server: NA
Player :Crystax
How : watch replay
http://drop.sc/344883


no he stream his games http://www.twitch.tv/crystax you only lose because you are worse than him but nice try :D


LOL, I love when people say this. People can stream and hack simultaneously, man.



How should that be even possible? You would need a stream overlay that covers everything of your hack, that would be quite obvious if minimap and the area where the production tab is is filled with an overlay.


You can hide the hack or any other program with StreamPrivacy


Isnt it still quite obvious for the viewer then?


Depends on the hack I guess? Production tab hack shows you what the opponent builds. Doesn't make you save against anything, but hell it makes sure nothing does suprise you =.=
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
IRFiasco
Profile Joined June 2011
5 Posts
June 20 2013 10:00 GMT
#6187
Apparently Crystax lost 2 games before the match with HelloKitty against Incontrols DT switch, quite the weird move for a maphacker^^. Checking somebodys match history before claiming that they hack might help alot.
CarelessPride
Profile Joined March 2011
United States146 Posts
June 20 2013 15:51 GMT
#6188
Do people who get posted in this list ever get banned?
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
June 20 2013 16:08 GMT
#6189
Quite a few of the accounts reported in this topic have been banned. Sadly most people who are banned will just get a new account and re-offend, so it's more of a deterrent than a cure.

I'd imagine Blizzard gets many x100 reports from people who are just bitter about losing, so just basically report 'omfg this guy is haker, no scout' and therefore time is wasted while they watch the replays/investigate. This doesn't help them devote time to actual hackers.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
wUndertUnge
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-20 16:29:46
June 20 2013 16:22 GMT
#6190
On June 21 2013 00:51 CarelessPride wrote:
Do people who get posted in this list ever get banned?


the method I've been using to ensure that people get banned is to write up the report on TL with specific details of cheating, including time stamps, as well as a drop.sc2 link to the replay, and also a link to their ingame profile. Then when I report them to Blizzard, I send a link to the TL report. I figure the less work Blizz has to do and the more details I can give them, the better chance they have of being banned.

With that said, I wonder how much work Blizz is doing to get to the source of these hacks. Anyone watch The Wire? I feel like these bans are just the street busts, where in the show they wanted to get to the dealers, the real problem.
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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
June 20 2013 18:44 GMT
#6191
On June 21 2013 01:22 wUndertUnge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 00:51 CarelessPride wrote:
Do people who get posted in this list ever get banned?


the method I've been using to ensure that people get banned is to write up the report on TL with specific details of cheating, including time stamps, as well as a drop.sc2 link to the replay, and also a link to their ingame profile. Then when I report them to Blizzard, I send a link to the TL report. I figure the less work Blizz has to do and the more details I can give them, the better chance they have of being banned.

With that said, I wonder how much work Blizz is doing to get to the source of these hacks. Anyone watch The Wire? I feel like these bans are just the street busts, where in the show they wanted to get to the dealers, the real problem.


Great analogy. Plus, The Wire is one of the best TV shows ever made.
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Jimmeh
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom908 Posts
June 21 2013 16:30 GMT
#6192
Name: [Vega]DarkSkies
Server: EU
Rank: Masters
Description: Reported this guy before, played him again -

http://drop.sc/345240

7:30 - Drop is heading to main, then moves around to natural once my marines come back to defend main (kinda suspicious but easily just luck)
13:20 - Moving directly towards my army. He knows where abouts I am but not precisely, but he moves exactly towards my army with his hellbats without vision
19:00 - Starts thor production (even though he already has air control with vikings) almost instantly after I start making banshees. Possible coincidence but seems unlikely combined with rest of things
19:10 to 19:40 - His army movements correspond almost perfectly with mine - again he has no vision. He unsieges and moves forward when I move back, then moves back + left in reaction to my army moving that way, as well as redeploying his single mine for the first time in the game
20:05 - Unsieges a few units and looks exactly where my marines are coming from, before waiting for them to appear to attack them.
20:25 - Issues an attack command up the cliff to attack an unscouted small squad of marines of mine, and then goes the other way.
25:50 & 27:15 & 29:00 - Attacks direclty on to my bases without scouting them. Could just be really lucky 3 times in a row but he ONLY goes to bases I have - ignores bases along attack route that I don't have (which he shouldn't know about).
Does the same at 29:40 but chooses to attack somewhere else.
30:11 - Clicks to attack almost directly on my unscouted hidden base, then at 30:13 he changes his mind to attack my unscouted starports.

Combine all this with not scouting all game (apart from his attacks/drops), he's either a stupidly lucky player or maphacker. Pretty obviously the latter in my opinion.
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 21:09:05
June 21 2013 21:08 GMT
#6193
I'm starting to get fucking sick of laddering. Also encountering maphackers every 2-3 days and it's just a complete ruining of my ladder experience. Just hit ANOTHER GM MAPHACKER. You know it's fucking bad when Blilzzard isn't even dealing with the maphackers who get into their "prestigious" gm which qualifies people for fucking tournaments and shit. Give me a break!

Name: [ExG] GEODUDE
Server: NA
Race: Random
Rank: 89 Grandmaster
Description: Spawns as Zerg on Red City, 6 pools directly to my main without any scout. Rallies his overlord and lings to my base (rather than splitting the overlord and lings to separate directions). Sends reinforcement lings to there too before lings even arrive at my main.

http://drop.sc/345298

the sad thing is that these guys are on teams and shit too. Makes me sick. I've actually played other people from this team too and they seemed legit...
aka SethN
RLcAnWaiT
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany4 Posts
June 21 2013 21:25 GMT
#6194
[ESFs]KuroTsuki

starcraft://profile/2/9362165614421999616

Server: EU
Race: Protoss
Rank: Platin

maphack and production tab hack live on stream
http://de.twitch.tv/shadowdeathkiller1337
jyuj
Profile Joined October 2007
Australia103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 21:42:47
June 21 2013 21:27 GMT
#6195
On June 21 2013 00:51 CarelessPride wrote:
Do people who get posted in this list ever get banned?


No one ever gets banned. Here is why.

The problem is the hack rate is actually something insane, more than 60%. If they start to ban the cheaters Blizzard is going to lose their player base. Blizzard still has 1 more expansion to sell, and has Millions/Billions tied up in contracts with companies who want to run tournaments and streaming services. If they did enforce no hacking it would be like the day of darkness in RuneScape

They claim to not tolerate players who hack, but what do you do with the player who only hacked like less than 10 games? Or was "Just trying them out" ? Blizzard really wants another 60$-35$ from all those players =\

Another factor is that it is almost impossible to stop all the hackers, so web sites like TL.net have deals with Blizzard which says they will stifle all talk about demanding results from Blizzard about hackers. This insures that the issue is swept under the rug. Remember it is also in TL.net best interest to not let the truth about hack rates get out because if people stop playing the main game this site is covering, hits go down which in turn means $ goes down.

P.S. at least like 5 threads have been started about asking Blizzard for detailed information about hack rates, what they are doing to combat hacking and such. I believe the population does not need more, say nothing about it while saying some vague sentence. All of the threads have been closed for poor reasons, because once again it is not in TL.net best interest to have a thread like that.
NewEyes
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 11:50:59
June 21 2013 21:27 GMT
#6196
Nuked
codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
June 21 2013 22:05 GMT
#6197
This guy is currently live, and he's using a maphack:

http://de.twitch.tv/shadowdeathkiller1337

It has a production tab and everything. He probably won't be on twitch much longer, lol :D
Procrastination is the enemy
Damnight
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany222 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 23:10:35
June 21 2013 22:48 GMT
#6198
On June 22 2013 06:25 RLcAnWaiT wrote:
[ESFs]KuroTsuki

starcraft://profile/2/9362165614421999616

Server: EU
Race: Protoss
Rank: Platin

maphack and production tab hack live on stream
http://de.twitch.tv/shadowdeathkiller1337


Proof Video incase there will be no recording or a ban on twitch:
MaxQT
Profile Joined January 2013
69 Posts
June 21 2013 23:21 GMT
#6199
On June 22 2013 07:48 Damnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 06:25 RLcAnWaiT wrote:
[ESFs]KuroTsuki

starcraft://profile/2/9362165614421999616

Server: EU
Race: Protoss
Rank: Platin

maphack and production tab hack live on stream
http://de.twitch.tv/shadowdeathkiller1337


Proof Video incase there will be no recording or a ban on twitch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e50RLYdnIY&


what a piece of shit.. how people hack AND STREAM is something i will probably never understand. like what, you want to get banned faster? or you want to show how gay you are?

blizzard should hire a team and just look for people streaming with hacks..
Fusa
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada148 Posts
June 21 2013 23:44 GMT
#6200
lol he just got shut down
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