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NA server
Mid Masters
name: (MMXeZ) IIIIIIIIIII
Terran Barcode from the above post.
I go for gasless expansion, he also goes for fast expo. He BLINIDLY pulls 3 SCVs and takes 3-4 marines to my base, after acting suspicious with his SCV, like he wanted to build a bunker. I adhered to my standard FE build, where i chrono 2-3 zealots and a stalker and follow the scv with a probe.
Keep in mind, that he NEVER scans me the whole game, only opening timing/gas or no gas/ FE or non FE. So he basically doesnt scout at any key time in the game after 3 minutes.
At 14:08 he attacks at top left of bottom main spawn position on the map. I see his troops load into medivacs when he runs away. 50 percent chance he turns and boosts into my base. 50 percent chance he goes home. I had mothership core at natural, so i move zealot, and warp in more HT etc. at main base, so i have both my bases drop defended so i can push his front with my main army.
16:10-16:35 as he is running from my army and he loads up into medivacs, i warp in HT's in main in case he decides to come up and drop me. He already dropped on spot in my main, so i warp in zealots in one other good spot to drop, 12 oclockish, while my HTs are at 9 oclock. I try to split the 4 HT, to put 2 at 9 oclock and 2 at 12 oclock. Keep in mind he lifted his units on the far left side of the map whilst i was chasing him so i was confident that he would drop main or go home. Also, i had MOCO at Natural so i needed to focus on main defense. I made an error in splitting HT's and send all 4 HT to the 12 oclock position in main, where the zealots were warping in. A drop comes as anticipated, better to be lucky than good sometimes, but either way it wouldn't have mattered, i had 5-6 zealot and 4 HT for a 2 medivac drop. Why the hell would i need to intercept that? HE blindly drops and boosts towards the ONE spot in my main that isnt covered with HT and units. Like he knew somehow the exact best place to drop. Maphacking is obvious by our terran player in this case. I usually cannon my bases for widow mine / hellbat defense, i was trying a new all in strat. I might have forgotten.
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On June 23 2013 09:21 coregame2006 wrote:
NA server
Mid Masters
name: (MMXeZ) IIIIIIIIIII
Terran Barcode from the above post.
I go for gasless expansion, he also goes for fast expo. He BLINIDLY pulls 3 SCVs and takes 3-4 marines to my base, after acting suspicious with his SCV, like he wanted to build a bunker. I adhered to my standard FE build, where i chrono 2-3 zealots and a stalker and follow the scv with a probe.
Keep in mind, that he NEVER scans me the whole game, only opening timing/gas or no gas/ FE or non FE. So he basically doesnt scout at any key time in the game after 3 minutes.
At 14:08 he attacks at top left of bottom main spawn position on the map. I see his troops load into medivacs when he runs away. 50 percent chance he turns and boosts into my base. 50 percent chance he goes home. I had mothership core at natural, so i move zealot, and warp in more HT etc. at main base, so i have both my bases drop defended so i can push his front with my main army.
16:10-16:35 as he is running from my army and he loads up into medivacs, i warp in HT's in main in case he decides to come up and drop me. He already dropped on spot in my main, so i warp in zealots in one other good spot to drop, 12 oclockish, while my HTs are at 9 oclock. I try to split the 4 HT, to put 2 at 9 oclock and 2 at 12 oclock. Keep in mind he lifted his units on the far left side of the map whilst i was chasing him so i was confident that he would drop main or go home. Also, i had MOCO at Natural so i needed to focus on main defense. I made an error in splitting HT's and send all 4 HT to the 12 oclock position in main, where the zealots were warping in. A drop comes as anticipated, better to be lucky than good sometimes, but either way it wouldn't have mattered, i had 5-6 zealot and 4 HT for a 2 medivac drop. Why the hell would i need to intercept that? HE blindly drops and boosts towards the ONE spot in my main that isnt covered with HT and units. Like he knew somehow the exact best place to drop. Maphacking is obvious by our terran player in this case. I usually cannon my bases for widow mine / hellbat defense, i was trying a new all in strat. I might have forgotten.
>.> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Also, i did scan your main base, at 7:30. Very good observational skills you have.
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On June 23 2013 09:21 coregame2006 wrote:
NA server
Mid Masters
name: (MMXeZ) IIIIIIIIIII
Terran Barcode from the above post.
I go for gasless expansion, he also goes for fast expo. He BLINIDLY pulls 3 SCVs and takes 3-4 marines to my base, after acting suspicious with his SCV, like he wanted to build a bunker. I adhered to my standard FE build, where i chrono 2-3 zealots and a stalker and follow the scv with a probe.
Keep in mind, that he NEVER scans me the whole game, only opening timing/gas or no gas/ FE or non FE. So he basically doesnt scout at any key time in the game after 3 minutes.
At 14:08 he attacks at top left of bottom main spawn position on the map. I see his troops load into medivacs when he runs away. 50 percent chance he turns and boosts into my base. 50 percent chance he goes home. I had mothership core at natural, so i move zealot, and warp in more HT etc. at main base, so i have both my bases drop defended so i can push his front with my main army.
16:10-16:35 as he is running from my army and he loads up into medivacs, i warp in HT's in main in case he decides to come up and drop me. He already dropped on spot in my main, so i warp in zealots in one other good spot to drop, 12 oclockish, while my HTs are at 9 oclock. I try to split the 4 HT, to put 2 at 9 oclock and 2 at 12 oclock. Keep in mind he lifted his units on the far left side of the map whilst i was chasing him so i was confident that he would drop main or go home. Also, i had MOCO at Natural so i needed to focus on main defense. I made an error in splitting HT's and send all 4 HT to the 12 oclock position in main, where the zealots were warping in. A drop comes as anticipated, better to be lucky than good sometimes, but either way it wouldn't have mattered, i had 5-6 zealot and 4 HT for a 2 medivac drop. Why the hell would i need to intercept that? HE blindly drops and boosts towards the ONE spot in my main that isnt covered with HT and units. Like he knew somehow the exact best place to drop. Maphacking is obvious by our terran player in this case. I usually cannon my bases for widow mine / hellbat defense, i was trying a new all in strat. I might have forgotten.
Did you forget to include a replay?
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replay : http://drop.sc/345466
EU server
High master (1000pts last season)
maphacker name: Tree
Zerg
I was playing as random in this game, so take it in consideration.
So in this zvz on Newkirk precinct i go for 11 pool 10 gas,
1-'53 he blindly goes for 13 gas 13 pool without even know i am zerg AND he doesn't place a single overlord on the map for the whole game
4' make a random round of lings but dont even use em for scouting, just to counter mines.
5'40 back his lings even though he had the ling count advantage because he knows that i have banelings on top of ramp.
6'40 "randomly" morphs a couple banelings when my attack is coming
6'48 MOST OBVIOUS part of the replay, he a-click right on my army with his lings before seeing my lings coming.
8'38 camera on his lings right before he can see my lings
I insist that he has NO INFORMATION the whole game, not even a single overlord on the map in zvz, + he has no army control group, 70 apm (supposed to be high master) and react perfectly to everything the opponent does.
Still, he achieves to lose the game despite his cheat and blind counters due to his awful mechanics and micro.
Please guys take a look and confirm this obvious hacker.
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Hacker: llllll
Server: NA
League: GOLD
Replay: http://drop.sc/345520
Description:
It's a PvZ. Even though I won I watched the replay cause I was curious. He knew where my mutalisks are. He never went aggressive with his Pheonixes to my base. And he just quit.
1. ~7:50 > Panned his camera to my incoming roaches. PRECISELY on my Roaches.
2.~10:05 > Panned his camera to check the front of my base. And more roaches that are coming.
3. ~12:30 > Panned his camera to my base to check for my techs. Saw that I was making spire.
4. ~13:37 > Panned his camera to my: a.) Expo (Checking if Spire is done) b.) Main Base (Checking if my Lair is Hive and also for other techs.) c.) 3rd Base (Checking if its done.)
5. ~14:26-14:34 > Blindy made Photon Cannons. 3 in his main. 1 in his expo.
6. ~15:10 > Panned his camera precisely to where my Mutalisks are. Intercepting with his Pheonix.
7. ~15:40-~15:45 > Intercepted my Mutalisk on the onther side of the map. He knew where they are going to.
8. ~16:11 > Placed his Pheonix on the Xel Naga Tower. Where my Mutalisks are.
9. ~17:40 > Attacked my overlords that he never saw. Even panned his camera precisely to where they are.
10. ~18:09 > Panned camera a bit to the left to see what my army is and its precise location as he was attacking my overlords.
11. ~19:03 > CAMERA PANNED ON TOP OF MY ARMY. WTF.
12. ~19:40 > Camera panned to my 4th base. Checking on it. WTF
13. ~19:59 > Camera hovered on my army. Why would he hover your camera on my moving army? Of course. He's maphacking. He wants to see what I have.
14. ~21:35-36 > Camera hovered over where my army is. Checking for info.
15. ~23:28 > Checked out my army again.
THEN HE JUST QUITS.
The whole game he never made an observer. He never scouted my base properly.
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Hacker: CarpeDiem
Server: NA
League: DIAMOND
Replay: http://drop.sc/345562
Description: (New) Resource Hack, Map Hack, Production Hack
There is a lot of shady stuff that goes down. CarpeDiem always seems to know just what to do, and right when to do it. BUT I am not even mad that the cheater was map hacking, or probably using the production hack. So I am not going to go through all the trouble to time stamp all his FOW looks and perfect counters.
(I just assume that about 60% of my games are V.S. haxors, and it has made my games more solid because I try to not out smart my opponent and just play standard, or in such a way that the game comes down to micro. I mean there are not hacks where it micros for you? Opps that is right, there is Stalker blink hack HAHAHAHAHahahah O blissard!)
I am amazed that there is a (new) resource hack. Which he was using. During the game some of the resources that he was spending were not being subtracted from his bank of minerals and gas. It gets really obvy after the nydus wurms go down.
Now I wrote up a huge ass thing about how I don't think Blissard is doing enough to stop hackers, and I got some BS thing about the time "T", which is the amount of time that goes between when Blissard does the mass bannings. I wonder how long this hack will be in use and how long it will take before CarpeDiem has to pay another 60$ for his biannual service subscription to hack in the game that I love ...................................
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On June 24 2013 04:23 jyuj wrote:Hacker: CarpeDiem Server: NA League: DIAMOND Replay: http://drop.sc/345562Description: (New) Resource Hack, Map Hack, Production Hack There is a lot of shady stuff that goes down. CarpeDiem always seems to know just what to do, and right when to do it. BUT I am not even mad that the cheater was map hacking, or probably using the production hack. So I am not going to go through all the trouble to time stamp all his FOW looks and perfect counters. (I just assume that about 60% of my games are V.S. haxors, and it has made my games more solid because I try to not out smart my opponent and just play standard, or in such a way that the game comes down to micro. I mean there are not hacks where it micros for you? Opps that is right, there is Stalker blink hack HAHAHAHAHahahah O blissard!) I am amazed that there is a (new) resource hack. Which he was using. During the game some of the resources that he was spending were not being subtracted from his bank of minerals and gas. It gets really obvy after the nydus wurms go down. Now I wrote up a huge ass thing about how I don't think Blissard is doing enough to stop hackers, and I got some BS thing about the time "T", which is the amount of time that goes between when Blissard does the mass bannings. I wonder how long this hack will be in use and how long it will take before CarpeDiem has to pay another 60$ for his biannual service subscription to hack in the game that I love ...................................
I see zero evidence of hacking here after about 20 minutes of analyzing. Nice cheese + BM btw.
Now, I'll totally believe you when you take the time to post all of the FoW peeks (I saw none at all) and perfect counters (At 17:40 when he started the spire, he had just seen an immortal, so of course he's going to go spire? at 22:00 when you attacked his main, surely a hacker would have seen that coming and sent his units back to his base and stop making drones? etc.)
On June 23 2013 21:59 paoskie wrote:Hacker: llllll Server: NA League: GOLD Replay: http://drop.sc/345520Description: It's a PvZ. Even though I won I watched the replay cause I was curious. He knew where my mutalisks are. He never went aggressive with his Pheonixes to my base. And he just quit. 1. ~7:50 > Panned his camera to my incoming roaches. PRECISELY on my Roaches. 2.~10:05 > Panned his camera to check the front of my base. And more roaches that are coming. 3. ~12:30 > Panned his camera to my base to check for my techs. Saw that I was making spire. 4. ~13:37 > Panned his camera to my: a.) Expo (Checking if Spire is done) b.) Main Base (Checking if my Lair is Hive and also for other techs.) c.) 3rd Base (Checking if its done.) 5. ~14:26-14:34 > Blindy made Photon Cannons. 3 in his main. 1 in his expo. 6. ~15:10 > Panned his camera precisely to where my Mutalisks are. Intercepting with his Pheonix. 7. ~15:40-~15:45 > Intercepted my Mutalisk on the onther side of the map. He knew where they are going to. 8. ~16:11 > Placed his Pheonix on the Xel Naga Tower. Where my Mutalisks are. 9. ~17:40 > Attacked my overlords that he never saw. Even panned his camera precisely to where they are. 10. ~18:09 > Panned camera a bit to the left to see what my army is and its precise location as he was attacking my overlords. 11. ~19:03 > CAMERA PANNED ON TOP OF MY ARMY. WTF. 12. ~19:40 > Camera panned to my 4th base. Checking on it. WTF 13. ~19:59 > Camera hovered on my army. Why would he hover your camera on my moving army? Of course. He's maphacking. He wants to see what I have. 14. ~21:35-36 > Camera hovered over where my army is. Checking for info. 15. ~23:28 > Checked out my army again. THEN HE JUST QUITS. The whole game he never made an observer. He never scouted my base properly.
Looked at a couple areas.
7:50 He could see the roaches with the mothership core lol
10:00 Yeah that's pretty incriminating, he has no reason to be looking there.
12:30 I see no reason to look there.
13:30 Yup!
16:00 Not definite, could be clearing the watchtowers since he seems to be going allin soon.
19:00 Not maphack here, was sending phoenixes but then changed his mind.
19:40 Incriminating, he has no reason to look there!
20:00 Not sure, he has no reason to look there if he has minimap vision but he's not intending to do anything there.
21:30 Probably. He's looking right at it, after all! I'm going to point out at this point that he is god-awful as he doesn't even position his army and has stayed on 2 bases the whole game for no reason.
23:30 Suspicious with the quitting but perhaps he gave up.
I give this a 95% of being a maphack but it's not absolutely certain. He's quite awful for being gold.
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Should I post a 3:3 game of a high master (top100 eu) RT player? It's extremely suspicious play from atleast two players in that game but it's just teamplay and he has not even played 1:1 this season. Also it's really hard to know who in the game hacks since it could be on or the whole team. Especially since it was RT with two guys from the same clan and another guy who played with some other guys the game before.
On a sidenote it feels like there are more hackers around than 6 months ago. But that is just probably from HotS having more harass based units that are good to combine/negate with complete mapvision.
Anyways, should I post?
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Hacker: Nerffy
Server: NA
League: GM
Replay: http://ggtracker.com/matches/3561561
Description: Super obvious hacker.. knows every position of my army... always finds my drops. He never scouted once.
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On June 24 2013 11:52 S2Lunar wrote:Hacker: Nerffy Server: NA League: GM Replay: http://ggtracker.com/matches/3561561Description: Super obvious hacker.. knows every position of my army... always finds my drops. He never scouted once.
That's a testament to the state that the NA ladder is in. You have a guy blatantly hacking, every game, yet he's able to play multiple seasons, finishing first in his master division last season, and now playing in GM, all while avoiding a ban.
Simply pathetic.
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On June 24 2013 12:33 playa wrote:That's a testament to the state that the NA ladder is in. You have a guy blatantly hacking, every game, yet he's able to play multiple seasons, finishing first in his master division last season, and now playing in GM, all while avoiding a ban. Simply pathetic.
To add more, he's been telling everyone who ask's him. Rather hilarious he's still around.
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Isn't BlackCitidel Startale Rainbow?
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On June 24 2013 11:52 S2Lunar wrote:Hacker: Nerffy Server: NA League: GM Replay: http://ggtracker.com/matches/3561561Description: Super obvious hacker.. knows every position of my army... always finds my drops. He never scouted once.
Nerffy has been a widely-known hacker for a long time. He hangs out on a lot of the streams that I hang out in, and will often come into chat and admit, no, boast about his maphacking. He/she constantly stream-snipes certain streamers. Sometimes he'll immediately leave the game after stream-sniping a streamer that he likes in order to help them out (it should be noted that no streamer's that I've seen endorse this behavior in any way). Other times he just plays them, stream-cheating and maphacking at the same time (I guess he likes wearing a belt and suspenders, lol).
One of the things that makes Nerffy especially annoying to deal with is that unlike many maphackers, who completely suck at the game, Nerffy's actually pretty good. He's good enough so that with the aid of a maphack he can be really hard to beat, even for GM players, which means you may not get the satisfaction of seeing your favorite pros stomp him. Oh and he has numerous accounts in addition to his main account, some of them with random names and some of them with barcodes. So if you're a GM and you're facing a barcode who just seems to know exactly what you're doing, it could very well be Nerffy.
But yeah, Nerffy has been around for ages. Even if Blizzard ever gets around to banning him, he will most definitely buy new accounts. Unfortunately we may just have to get used to Nerffy's presence, unless someone can figure out how to DDOS him + Show Spoiler +JUST KIDDING! Scum like Nerffy isn't worth going to jail over.
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On June 24 2013 15:09 codonbyte wrote:Nerffy has been a widely-known hacker for a long time. He hangs out on a lot of the streams that I hang out in, and will often come into chat and admit, no, boast about his maphacking. He/she constantly stream-snipes certain streamers. Sometimes he'll immediately leave the game after stream-sniping a streamer that he likes in order to help them out (it should be noted that no streamer's that I've seen endorse this behavior in any way). Other times he just plays them, stream-cheating and maphacking at the same time (I guess he likes wearing a belt and suspenders, lol). But yeah, Nerffy has been around for ages. Even if Blizzard ever gets around to banning him, he will most definitely buy new accounts. Unfortunately we may just have to get used to Nerffy's presence, unless someone can figure out how to DDOS him + Show Spoiler +JUST KIDDING! Scum like Nerffy isn't worth going to jail over.
Yeah, I played him in the past (I won cause he's plat in skill), and I actually didn't report him/want him banned, simply because he was the only one map hacking with the balls to be brazen about it and own up to it.
I'm just saying, everyone knows the guy hacks. Every season he hacks. He doesn't change his name. You know it's the same guy. Yet it takes this long to ban someone that is screaming "hey guys, I'm hacking." He doesn't even scout. How long does it take to ban people that are trying to disguise they're hacking? It's embarrassing and a big part of why there's soo many hackers in GM atm. I'm not that old school when it comes to b.net/bw, but is this part of why people stopped playing b.net ladder in BW?
With blizzard being the only option now, regarding anything SC related, the future looks bleak on all fronts. What's the point of reporting hackers and showing conclusive evidence if Nerfy is still playing? It's a joke. No point. How many seasons does it take?
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On June 24 2013 15:20 playa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 15:09 codonbyte wrote:On June 24 2013 11:52 S2Lunar wrote:Hacker: Nerffy Server: NA League: GM Replay: http://ggtracker.com/matches/3561561Description: Super obvious hacker.. knows every position of my army... always finds my drops. He never scouted once. Nerffy has been a widely-known hacker for a long time. He hangs out on a lot of the streams that I hang out in, and will often come into chat and admit, no, boast about his maphacking. He/she constantly stream-snipes certain streamers. Sometimes he'll immediately leave the game after stream-sniping a streamer that he likes in order to help them out (it should be noted that no streamer's that I've seen endorse this behavior in any way). Other times he just plays them, stream-cheating and maphacking at the same time (I guess he likes wearing a belt and suspenders, lol). But yeah, Nerffy has been around for ages. Even if Blizzard ever gets around to banning him, he will most definitely buy new accounts. Unfortunately we may just have to get used to Nerffy's presence, unless someone can figure out how to DDOS him + Show Spoiler +JUST KIDDING! Scum like Nerffy isn't worth going to jail over. Yeah, I played him in the past (I won cause he's plat in skill), and I actually didn't report him/want him banned, simply because he was the only one map hacking with the balls to be brazen about it and own up to it. I'm just saying, everyone knows the guy hacks. Every season he hacks. He doesn't change his name. You know it's the same guy. Yet it takes this long to ban someone that is screaming "hey guys, I'm hacking." He doesn't even scout. How long does it take to ban people that are trying to disguise they're hacking? It's embarrassing and a big part of why there's soo many hackers in GM atm. I'm not that old school when it comes to b.net/bw, but is this part of why people stopped playing b.net ladder in BW? With blizzard being the only option now, regarding anything SC related, the future looks bleak on all fronts. What's the point of reporting hackers and showing conclusive evidence if Nerfy is still playing? It's a joke. No point. How many seasons does it take?
As I've said before in this thread, the problem it takes so long is because of Blizzard's policy of banning in waves. They do that so that hack-makers won't know exactly when a hack has been detected, and consumers won't be able to count on seeing a warning on the hack-makers website right when a hack gets detected.
I get the logic, but I think hackers are so toxic that they simply have to be dealt with immediately. The whole "banning in waves" bullshit is especially ridiculous when a hacker gets caught for reasons other than the hack itself being compromised, i.e. because they were fucking streaming it, or straight-up admitting (or boasting) about doing it. At any rate, The wave period needs to be drastically shortened (if not eliminated), because 6 months is just way too long to allow a hacker to keep hacking.
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On June 24 2013 08:17 Eatme wrote:
Should I post a 3:3 game of a high master (top100 eu) RT player? It's extremely suspicious play from atleast two players in that game but it's just teamplay and he has not even played 1:1 this season. Also it's really hard to know who in the game hacks since it could be on or the whole team. Especially since it was RT with two guys from the same clan and another guy who played with some other guys the game before.
On a sidenote it feels like there are more hackers around than 6 months ago. But that is just probably from HotS having more harass based units that are good to combine/negate with complete mapvision.
Anyways, should I post?
I wouldn't bother. Although it is a great offense to hack regardless of 1v1 or 3v3, this thread is mainly focused on masters/gm 1v1 hackers. Information on hackers in team games or in lower league 1v1 doesn't have much demand.
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On June 24 2013 15:27 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 08:17 Eatme wrote:
Should I post a 3:3 game of a high master (top100 eu) RT player? It's extremely suspicious play from atleast two players in that game but it's just teamplay and he has not even played 1:1 this season. Also it's really hard to know who in the game hacks since it could be on or the whole team. Especially since it was RT with two guys from the same clan and another guy who played with some other guys the game before.
On a sidenote it feels like there are more hackers around than 6 months ago. But that is just probably from HotS having more harass based units that are good to combine/negate with complete mapvision.
Anyways, should I post? I wouldn't bother. Although it is a great offense to hack regardless of 1v1 or 3v3, this thread is mainly focused on masters/gm 1v1 hackers. Information on hackers in team games or in lower league 1v1 doesn't have much demand.
Yeah I kinda figured. I'd just keep an eye out if he starts to play 1:1 again. But since he now actually is top 50 according to sc2ranks I figured it was worth asking.
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On June 24 2013 15:25 codonbyte wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 15:20 playa wrote:On June 24 2013 15:09 codonbyte wrote:On June 24 2013 11:52 S2Lunar wrote:Hacker: Nerffy Server: NA League: GM Replay: http://ggtracker.com/matches/3561561Description: Super obvious hacker.. knows every position of my army... always finds my drops. He never scouted once. Nerffy has been a widely-known hacker for a long time. He hangs out on a lot of the streams that I hang out in, and will often come into chat and admit, no, boast about his maphacking. He/she constantly stream-snipes certain streamers. Sometimes he'll immediately leave the game after stream-sniping a streamer that he likes in order to help them out (it should be noted that no streamer's that I've seen endorse this behavior in any way). Other times he just plays them, stream-cheating and maphacking at the same time (I guess he likes wearing a belt and suspenders, lol). But yeah, Nerffy has been around for ages. Even if Blizzard ever gets around to banning him, he will most definitely buy new accounts. Unfortunately we may just have to get used to Nerffy's presence, unless someone can figure out how to DDOS him + Show Spoiler +JUST KIDDING! Scum like Nerffy isn't worth going to jail over. Yeah, I played him in the past (I won cause he's plat in skill), and I actually didn't report him/want him banned, simply because he was the only one map hacking with the balls to be brazen about it and own up to it. I'm just saying, everyone knows the guy hacks. Every season he hacks. He doesn't change his name. You know it's the same guy. Yet it takes this long to ban someone that is screaming "hey guys, I'm hacking." He doesn't even scout. How long does it take to ban people that are trying to disguise they're hacking? It's embarrassing and a big part of why there's soo many hackers in GM atm. I'm not that old school when it comes to b.net/bw, but is this part of why people stopped playing b.net ladder in BW? With blizzard being the only option now, regarding anything SC related, the future looks bleak on all fronts. What's the point of reporting hackers and showing conclusive evidence if Nerfy is still playing? It's a joke. No point. How many seasons does it take? As I've said before in this thread, the problem it takes so long is because of Blizzard's policy of banning in waves. They do that so that hack-makers won't know exactly when a hack has been detected, and consumers won't be able to count on seeing a warning on the hack-makers website right when a hack gets detected. I get the logic, but I think hackers are so toxic that they simply have to be dealt with immediately. The whole "banning in waves" bullshit is especially ridiculous when a hacker gets caught for reasons other than the hack itself being compromised, i.e. because they were fucking streaming it, or straight-up admitting (or boasting) about doing it. At any rate, The wave period needs to be drastically shortened (if not eliminated), because 6 months is just way too long to allow a hacker to keep hacking.
Yeah, it's just kinda ridiculous that the most brazen hacker can't even get banned until the hack is compromised. If everyone that plays the game knows he is hacking, ban him already.
Just think how silly this is. Anyone that's at least masters, legitimately, can not only start hacking and make GM, but they can never scout their opponent's base, admit to hacking, and even flaunt that fact, yet they won't get banned until Blizz can detect their hack. Maybe that's worth 40 dollars. Given that nerffy is displaying how long it takes for them to detect hacks, maybe the next expansion will be out by then, anyways.
Honestly, I'm the kinda person that doesn't really mind playing against hackers. It's better practice, more times than not. But, it's just so discouraging if you're trying to get GM and you have a lot of people win trading with teammates and a ton more are hacking. And Blizzard's nonchalant attitude is just increasing the amount of hackers you play at high masters. I'm pretty sure the percentage of players hacking only grows. If you're top 30 NA in Masters, you may as well consider yourself top 10.
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On June 24 2013 15:33 Eatme wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 15:27 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 24 2013 08:17 Eatme wrote:
Should I post a 3:3 game of a high master (top100 eu) RT player? It's extremely suspicious play from atleast two players in that game but it's just teamplay and he has not even played 1:1 this season. Also it's really hard to know who in the game hacks since it could be on or the whole team. Especially since it was RT with two guys from the same clan and another guy who played with some other guys the game before.
On a sidenote it feels like there are more hackers around than 6 months ago. But that is just probably from HotS having more harass based units that are good to combine/negate with complete mapvision.
Anyways, should I post? I wouldn't bother. Although it is a great offense to hack regardless of 1v1 or 3v3, this thread is mainly focused on masters/gm 1v1 hackers. Information on hackers in team games or in lower league 1v1 doesn't have much demand. Yeah I kinda figured. I'd just keep an eye out if he starts to play 1:1 again. But since he now actually is top 50 according to sc2ranks I figured it was worth asking.
I kinda disagree here. I think a hacker is a hacker, no matter what league or game type. This thread is designed to be a list of players that have been confirmed to be hacking. Hacking is absolutely despicable, regardless of whether it happens in a GM 1v1 ladder game or a 2v2 co-op vs easy AI (yes, I once had a partner in a 2v2 co-op vs easy AI who I eventually realized was hacking. I don't remember whether I posted it in here or not. Yes, absolutely pathetic, I know), and all hackers deserve to be revealed and shamed in front of the entire community, regardless of their skill or the game-type they are playing.
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