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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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Honestly I am not lying when I say I reported Nerffy's accounts multiple of times almost 1.5 year ago and he's still around, can Blizzard not just hire one guy to spend a couple of hours each day to go over replays of potential hackers? I mean honestly if you can ban one guy at least every hour than your probably making more money than your paying the employee assuming the hacker just re buys the game.
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On June 24 2013 16:05 AstroPegnuin wrote:
Honestly I am not lying when I say I reported Nerffy's accounts multiple of times almost 1.5 year ago and he's still around, can Blizzard not just hire one guy to spend a couple of hours each day to go over replays of potential hackers? I mean honestly if you can ban one guy at least every hour than your probably making more money than your paying the employee assuming the hacker just re buys the game.
I'm pretty sure Nerffy has been banned several times back in WoL. He keeps buying new accounts. But yeah, Blizzard needs to step up their game. They still haven't banned the guy who streamed while using a maphack a couple days ago.
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A filthy cheater is streaming... apparently it's not enough to just cheat, but to publicly fucking show it. http://lecat.hakuou.org/ is the stream site, I guess twitch is not safe for the.
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On June 24 2013 05:26 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 04:23 jyuj wrote:Hacker: CarpeDiem Server: NA League: DIAMOND Replay: http://drop.sc/345562Description: (New) Resource Hack, Map Hack, Production Hack There is a lot of shady stuff that goes down. CarpeDiem always seems to know just what to do, and right when to do it. BUT I am not even mad that the cheater was map hacking, or probably using the production hack. So I am not going to go through all the trouble to time stamp all his FOW looks and perfect counters. (I just assume that about 60% of my games are V.S. haxors, and it has made my games more solid because I try to not out smart my opponent and just play standard, or in such a way that the game comes down to micro. I mean there are not hacks where it micros for you? Opps that is right, there is Stalker blink hack HAHAHAHAHahahah O blissard!) I am amazed that there is a (new) resource hack. Which he was using. During the game some of the resources that he was spending were not being subtracted from his bank of minerals and gas. It gets really obvy after the nydus wurms go down. Now I wrote up a huge ass thing about how I don't think Blissard is doing enough to stop hackers, and I got some BS thing about the time "T", which is the amount of time that goes between when Blissard does the mass bannings. I wonder how long this hack will be in use and how long it will take before CarpeDiem has to pay another 60$ for his biannual service subscription to hack in the game that I love ................................... I see zero evidence of hacking here after about 20 minutes of analyzing. Nice cheese + BM btw. Now, I'll totally believe you when you take the time to post all of the FoW peeks (I saw none at all) and perfect counters (At 17:40 when he started the spire, he had just seen an immortal, so of course he's going to go spire? at 22:00 when you attacked his main, surely a hacker would have seen that coming and sent his units back to his base and stop making drones? etc.) Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 21:59 paoskie wrote:Hacker: llllll Server: NA League: GOLD Replay: http://drop.sc/345520Description: It's a PvZ. Even though I won I watched the replay cause I was curious. He knew where my mutalisks are. He never went aggressive with his Pheonixes to my base. And he just quit. 1. ~7:50 > Panned his camera to my incoming roaches. PRECISELY on my Roaches. 2.~10:05 > Panned his camera to check the front of my base. And more roaches that are coming. 3. ~12:30 > Panned his camera to my base to check for my techs. Saw that I was making spire. 4. ~13:37 > Panned his camera to my: a.) Expo (Checking if Spire is done) b.) Main Base (Checking if my Lair is Hive and also for other techs.) c.) 3rd Base (Checking if its done.) 5. ~14:26-14:34 > Blindy made Photon Cannons. 3 in his main. 1 in his expo. 6. ~15:10 > Panned his camera precisely to where my Mutalisks are. Intercepting with his Pheonix. 7. ~15:40-~15:45 > Intercepted my Mutalisk on the onther side of the map. He knew where they are going to. 8. ~16:11 > Placed his Pheonix on the Xel Naga Tower. Where my Mutalisks are. 9. ~17:40 > Attacked my overlords that he never saw. Even panned his camera precisely to where they are. 10. ~18:09 > Panned camera a bit to the left to see what my army is and its precise location as he was attacking my overlords. 11. ~19:03 > CAMERA PANNED ON TOP OF MY ARMY. WTF. 12. ~19:40 > Camera panned to my 4th base. Checking on it. WTF 13. ~19:59 > Camera hovered on my army. Why would he hover your camera on my moving army? Of course. He's maphacking. He wants to see what I have. 14. ~21:35-36 > Camera hovered over where my army is. Checking for info. 15. ~23:28 > Checked out my army again. THEN HE JUST QUITS. The whole game he never made an observer. He never scouted my base properly. Looked at a couple areas. 7:50 He could see the roaches with the mothership core lol 10:00 Yeah that's pretty incriminating, he has no reason to be looking there. 12:30 I see no reason to look there. 13:30 Yup! 16:00 Not definite, could be clearing the watchtowers since he seems to be going allin soon. 19:00 Not maphack here, was sending phoenixes but then changed his mind. 19:40 Incriminating, he has no reason to look there! 20:00 Not sure, he has no reason to look there if he has minimap vision but he's not intending to do anything there. 21:30 Probably. He's looking right at it, after all! I'm going to point out at this point that he is god-awful as he doesn't even position his army and has stayed on 2 bases the whole game for no reason. 23:30 Suspicious with the quitting but perhaps he gave up. I give this a 95% of being a maphack but it's not absolutely certain. He's quite awful for being gold.
So nothing to say about the resource hack?
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The longer these ban waves take and the more hackers there are kinda makes me appreciate VAC.
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On June 24 2013 15:09 codonbyte wrote:Nerffy has been a widely-known hacker for a long time. He hangs out on a lot of the streams that I hang out in, and will often come into chat and admit, no, boast about his maphacking. He/she constantly stream-snipes certain streamers. Sometimes he'll immediately leave the game after stream-sniping a streamer that he likes in order to help them out (it should be noted that no streamer's that I've seen endorse this behavior in any way). Other times he just plays them, stream-cheating and maphacking at the same time (I guess he likes wearing a belt and suspenders, lol). One of the things that makes Nerffy especially annoying to deal with is that unlike many maphackers, who completely suck at the game, Nerffy's actually pretty good. He's good enough so that with the aid of a maphack he can be really hard to beat, even for GM players, which means you may not get the satisfaction of seeing your favorite pros stomp him. Oh and he has numerous accounts in addition to his main account, some of them with random names and some of them with barcodes. So if you're a GM and you're facing a barcode who just seems to know exactly what you're doing, it could very well be Nerffy. But yeah, Nerffy has been around for ages. Even if Blizzard ever gets around to banning him, he will most definitely buy new accounts. Unfortunately we may just have to get used to Nerffy's presence, unless someone can figure out how to DDOS him + Show Spoiler +JUST KIDDING! Scum like Nerffy isn't worth going to jail over.
Can't Blizz block his IP?
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On June 24 2013 23:16 wUndertUnge wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 15:09 codonbyte wrote:On June 24 2013 11:52 S2Lunar wrote:Hacker: Nerffy Server: NA League: GM Replay: http://ggtracker.com/matches/3561561Description: Super obvious hacker.. knows every position of my army... always finds my drops. He never scouted once. Nerffy has been a widely-known hacker for a long time. He hangs out on a lot of the streams that I hang out in, and will often come into chat and admit, no, boast about his maphacking. He/she constantly stream-snipes certain streamers. Sometimes he'll immediately leave the game after stream-sniping a streamer that he likes in order to help them out (it should be noted that no streamer's that I've seen endorse this behavior in any way). Other times he just plays them, stream-cheating and maphacking at the same time (I guess he likes wearing a belt and suspenders, lol). One of the things that makes Nerffy especially annoying to deal with is that unlike many maphackers, who completely suck at the game, Nerffy's actually pretty good. He's good enough so that with the aid of a maphack he can be really hard to beat, even for GM players, which means you may not get the satisfaction of seeing your favorite pros stomp him. Oh and he has numerous accounts in addition to his main account, some of them with random names and some of them with barcodes. So if you're a GM and you're facing a barcode who just seems to know exactly what you're doing, it could very well be Nerffy. But yeah, Nerffy has been around for ages. Even if Blizzard ever gets around to banning him, he will most definitely buy new accounts. Unfortunately we may just have to get used to Nerffy's presence, unless someone can figure out how to DDOS him + Show Spoiler +JUST KIDDING! Scum like Nerffy isn't worth going to jail over. Can't Blizz block his IP?
That's what I've been thinking. If someone hacks, what if Blizzard could ban them in a way that would prevent them from purchasing the game again? Imagine if you had to show an ID to purchase a copy of SC2. I'm not suggesting that they do that because it would create all kinds of other problems (like not being able to download a digital version of SC2), but just imagine for a second that in pretend-land you have to show an ID to purchase SC2. Then if a player hacked Blizzard could give them a lifetime ban from SC2, which would be a real punishment. I bet fewer people would hack if that were the case.
And yes Blizzard does have the technology to block IPs, but I'm 99% sure that they don't currently have a policy of doing it.
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On June 24 2013 21:39 jyuj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 05:26 The_Templar wrote:On June 24 2013 04:23 jyuj wrote:Hacker: CarpeDiem Server: NA League: DIAMOND Replay: http://drop.sc/345562Description: (New) Resource Hack, Map Hack, Production Hack There is a lot of shady stuff that goes down. CarpeDiem always seems to know just what to do, and right when to do it. BUT I am not even mad that the cheater was map hacking, or probably using the production hack. So I am not going to go through all the trouble to time stamp all his FOW looks and perfect counters. (I just assume that about 60% of my games are V.S. haxors, and it has made my games more solid because I try to not out smart my opponent and just play standard, or in such a way that the game comes down to micro. I mean there are not hacks where it micros for you? Opps that is right, there is Stalker blink hack HAHAHAHAHahahah O blissard!) I am amazed that there is a (new) resource hack. Which he was using. During the game some of the resources that he was spending were not being subtracted from his bank of minerals and gas. It gets really obvy after the nydus wurms go down. Now I wrote up a huge ass thing about how I don't think Blissard is doing enough to stop hackers, and I got some BS thing about the time "T", which is the amount of time that goes between when Blissard does the mass bannings. I wonder how long this hack will be in use and how long it will take before CarpeDiem has to pay another 60$ for his biannual service subscription to hack in the game that I love ................................... I see zero evidence of hacking here after about 20 minutes of analyzing. Nice cheese + BM btw. Now, I'll totally believe you when you take the time to post all of the FoW peeks (I saw none at all) and perfect counters (At 17:40 when he started the spire, he had just seen an immortal, so of course he's going to go spire? at 22:00 when you attacked his main, surely a hacker would have seen that coming and sent his units back to his base and stop making drones? etc.) On June 23 2013 21:59 paoskie wrote:Hacker: llllll Server: NA League: GOLD Replay: http://drop.sc/345520Description: It's a PvZ. Even though I won I watched the replay cause I was curious. He knew where my mutalisks are. He never went aggressive with his Pheonixes to my base. And he just quit. 1. ~7:50 > Panned his camera to my incoming roaches. PRECISELY on my Roaches. 2.~10:05 > Panned his camera to check the front of my base. And more roaches that are coming. 3. ~12:30 > Panned his camera to my base to check for my techs. Saw that I was making spire. 4. ~13:37 > Panned his camera to my: a.) Expo (Checking if Spire is done) b.) Main Base (Checking if my Lair is Hive and also for other techs.) c.) 3rd Base (Checking if its done.) 5. ~14:26-14:34 > Blindy made Photon Cannons. 3 in his main. 1 in his expo. 6. ~15:10 > Panned his camera precisely to where my Mutalisks are. Intercepting with his Pheonix. 7. ~15:40-~15:45 > Intercepted my Mutalisk on the onther side of the map. He knew where they are going to. 8. ~16:11 > Placed his Pheonix on the Xel Naga Tower. Where my Mutalisks are. 9. ~17:40 > Attacked my overlords that he never saw. Even panned his camera precisely to where they are. 10. ~18:09 > Panned camera a bit to the left to see what my army is and its precise location as he was attacking my overlords. 11. ~19:03 > CAMERA PANNED ON TOP OF MY ARMY. WTF. 12. ~19:40 > Camera panned to my 4th base. Checking on it. WTF 13. ~19:59 > Camera hovered on my army. Why would he hover your camera on my moving army? Of course. He's maphacking. He wants to see what I have. 14. ~21:35-36 > Camera hovered over where my army is. Checking for info. 15. ~23:28 > Checked out my army again. THEN HE JUST QUITS. The whole game he never made an observer. He never scouted my base properly. Looked at a couple areas. 7:50 He could see the roaches with the mothership core lol 10:00 Yeah that's pretty incriminating, he has no reason to be looking there. 12:30 I see no reason to look there. 13:30 Yup! 16:00 Not definite, could be clearing the watchtowers since he seems to be going allin soon. 19:00 Not maphack here, was sending phoenixes but then changed his mind. 19:40 Incriminating, he has no reason to look there! 20:00 Not sure, he has no reason to look there if he has minimap vision but he's not intending to do anything there. 21:30 Probably. He's looking right at it, after all! I'm going to point out at this point that he is god-awful as he doesn't even position his army and has stayed on 2 bases the whole game for no reason. 23:30 Suspicious with the quitting but perhaps he gave up. I give this a 95% of being a maphack but it's not absolutely certain. He's quite awful for being gold. So nothing to say about the resource hack?
Any specific places?
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Maphack is one thing, but a resource hack? Units for free? That's seriously messed up.
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On June 24 2013 23:20 codonbyte wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:16 wUndertUnge wrote:On June 24 2013 15:09 codonbyte wrote:On June 24 2013 11:52 S2Lunar wrote:Hacker: Nerffy Server: NA League: GM Replay: http://ggtracker.com/matches/3561561Description: Super obvious hacker.. knows every position of my army... always finds my drops. He never scouted once. Nerffy has been a widely-known hacker for a long time. He hangs out on a lot of the streams that I hang out in, and will often come into chat and admit, no, boast about his maphacking. He/she constantly stream-snipes certain streamers. Sometimes he'll immediately leave the game after stream-sniping a streamer that he likes in order to help them out (it should be noted that no streamer's that I've seen endorse this behavior in any way). Other times he just plays them, stream-cheating and maphacking at the same time (I guess he likes wearing a belt and suspenders, lol). One of the things that makes Nerffy especially annoying to deal with is that unlike many maphackers, who completely suck at the game, Nerffy's actually pretty good. He's good enough so that with the aid of a maphack he can be really hard to beat, even for GM players, which means you may not get the satisfaction of seeing your favorite pros stomp him. Oh and he has numerous accounts in addition to his main account, some of them with random names and some of them with barcodes. So if you're a GM and you're facing a barcode who just seems to know exactly what you're doing, it could very well be Nerffy. But yeah, Nerffy has been around for ages. Even if Blizzard ever gets around to banning him, he will most definitely buy new accounts. Unfortunately we may just have to get used to Nerffy's presence, unless someone can figure out how to DDOS him + Show Spoiler +JUST KIDDING! Scum like Nerffy isn't worth going to jail over. Can't Blizz block his IP? That's what I've been thinking. If someone hacks, what if Blizzard could ban them in a way that would prevent them from purchasing the game again? Imagine if you had to show an ID to purchase a copy of SC2. I'm not suggesting that they do that because it would create all kinds of other problems (like not being able to download a digital version of SC2), but just imagine for a second that in pretend-land you have to show an ID to purchase SC2. Then if a player hacked Blizzard could give them a lifetime ban from SC2, which would be a real punishment. I bet fewer people would hack if that were the case. And yes Blizzard does have the technology to block IPs, but I'm 99% sure that they don't currently have a policy of doing it.
1) It's easy to change your IP.
2) If they ban life MHer, t will be a big hole in their income. Every online game only ban the account you cheated on, because it's more profitable for them.
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On June 24 2013 21:39 jyuj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 05:26 The_Templar wrote:On June 24 2013 04:23 jyuj wrote:Hacker: CarpeDiem Server: NA League: DIAMOND Replay: http://drop.sc/345562Description: (New) Resource Hack, Map Hack, Production Hack There is a lot of shady stuff that goes down. CarpeDiem always seems to know just what to do, and right when to do it. BUT I am not even mad that the cheater was map hacking, or probably using the production hack. So I am not going to go through all the trouble to time stamp all his FOW looks and perfect counters. (I just assume that about 60% of my games are V.S. haxors, and it has made my games more solid because I try to not out smart my opponent and just play standard, or in such a way that the game comes down to micro. I mean there are not hacks where it micros for you? Opps that is right, there is Stalker blink hack HAHAHAHAHahahah O blissard!) I am amazed that there is a (new) resource hack. Which he was using. During the game some of the resources that he was spending were not being subtracted from his bank of minerals and gas. It gets really obvy after the nydus wurms go down. Now I wrote up a huge ass thing about how I don't think Blissard is doing enough to stop hackers, and I got some BS thing about the time "T", which is the amount of time that goes between when Blissard does the mass bannings. I wonder how long this hack will be in use and how long it will take before CarpeDiem has to pay another 60$ for his biannual service subscription to hack in the game that I love ................................... I see zero evidence of hacking here after about 20 minutes of analyzing. Nice cheese + BM btw. Now, I'll totally believe you when you take the time to post all of the FoW peeks (I saw none at all) and perfect counters (At 17:40 when he started the spire, he had just seen an immortal, so of course he's going to go spire? at 22:00 when you attacked his main, surely a hacker would have seen that coming and sent his units back to his base and stop making drones? etc.) On June 23 2013 21:59 paoskie wrote:Hacker: llllll Server: NA League: GOLD Replay: http://drop.sc/345520Description: It's a PvZ. Even though I won I watched the replay cause I was curious. He knew where my mutalisks are. He never went aggressive with his Pheonixes to my base. And he just quit. 1. ~7:50 > Panned his camera to my incoming roaches. PRECISELY on my Roaches. 2.~10:05 > Panned his camera to check the front of my base. And more roaches that are coming. 3. ~12:30 > Panned his camera to my base to check for my techs. Saw that I was making spire. 4. ~13:37 > Panned his camera to my: a.) Expo (Checking if Spire is done) b.) Main Base (Checking if my Lair is Hive and also for other techs.) c.) 3rd Base (Checking if its done.) 5. ~14:26-14:34 > Blindy made Photon Cannons. 3 in his main. 1 in his expo. 6. ~15:10 > Panned his camera precisely to where my Mutalisks are. Intercepting with his Pheonix. 7. ~15:40-~15:45 > Intercepted my Mutalisk on the onther side of the map. He knew where they are going to. 8. ~16:11 > Placed his Pheonix on the Xel Naga Tower. Where my Mutalisks are. 9. ~17:40 > Attacked my overlords that he never saw. Even panned his camera precisely to where they are. 10. ~18:09 > Panned camera a bit to the left to see what my army is and its precise location as he was attacking my overlords. 11. ~19:03 > CAMERA PANNED ON TOP OF MY ARMY. WTF. 12. ~19:40 > Camera panned to my 4th base. Checking on it. WTF 13. ~19:59 > Camera hovered on my army. Why would he hover your camera on my moving army? Of course. He's maphacking. He wants to see what I have. 14. ~21:35-36 > Camera hovered over where my army is. Checking for info. 15. ~23:28 > Checked out my army again. THEN HE JUST QUITS. The whole game he never made an observer. He never scouted my base properly. Looked at a couple areas. 7:50 He could see the roaches with the mothership core lol 10:00 Yeah that's pretty incriminating, he has no reason to be looking there. 12:30 I see no reason to look there. 13:30 Yup! 16:00 Not definite, could be clearing the watchtowers since he seems to be going allin soon. 19:00 Not maphack here, was sending phoenixes but then changed his mind. 19:40 Incriminating, he has no reason to look there! 20:00 Not sure, he has no reason to look there if he has minimap vision but he's not intending to do anything there. 21:30 Probably. He's looking right at it, after all! I'm going to point out at this point that he is god-awful as he doesn't even position his army and has stayed on 2 bases the whole game for no reason. 23:30 Suspicious with the quitting but perhaps he gave up. I give this a 95% of being a maphack but it's not absolutely certain. He's quite awful for being gold. So nothing to say about the resource hack?
Its completely impossible to hack in resources into a ladder game. Nor did i see absolutely any evidence of hacking in the slightest. All I could see in that game was you being extremely cheesy and abusive, getting very far ahead and then massively throwing the game due to absolutely no clue what you are doing. Your opponent wasnt hacking nor are "60% of people on ladder" and calling what you are doing solid is actually nothing but insulting.
Stop cheesing, stop blaming losses on hackers, start actually learning to play. CarpeDiem wasnt hacking in the slightest he was just actually 10x better than you. Also your extremely BM. Il let CarpeDiem summarise this post
00:21:22 - CarpeDiem to ALL: youre not gonna get out of diamond
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On June 25 2013 00:09 Iksf wrote:
Its completely impossible to hack in resources into a ladder game. Nor did i see absolutely any evidence of hacking in the slightest.
Unfortunately, this isn't true. It is possible but, unless it's been fixed very recently, the first time you try to spend any of it it causes a desync tie.
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On June 25 2013 00:12 Iyerbeth wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 00:09 Iksf wrote:
Its completely impossible to hack in resources into a ladder game. Nor did i see absolutely any evidence of hacking in the slightest. Unfortunately, this isn't true. It is possible but, unless it's been fixed very recently, the first time you try to spend any of it it causes a desync tie.
Yes exactly. It used to desync instantly but now it seems information about the amount of money you have is only shared when some of it is spent. Memory editing your minerals just literally changes the number on your screen, the server and other client arnt updated. When you spend some of it the new amounts are exchanged, server realizes theres a problem, desync. So basically its still impossible.
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On June 25 2013 00:18 Iksf wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 00:12 Iyerbeth wrote:On June 25 2013 00:09 Iksf wrote:
Its completely impossible to hack in resources into a ladder game. Nor did i see absolutely any evidence of hacking in the slightest. Unfortunately, this isn't true. It is possible but, unless it's been fixed very recently, the first time you try to spend any of it it causes a desync tie. Yes exactly. It used to desync instantly but now it seems information about the amount of money you have is only shared when some of it is spent. Memory editing your minerals just literally changes the number on your screen, the server and other client arnt updated. When you spend some of it the new amounts are exchanged, server realizes theres a problem, desync. So basically its still impossible.
That's fair, I was just trying to be precise.  So yes, technically impossible!
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On June 24 2013 21:39 jyuj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 05:26 The_Templar wrote:On June 24 2013 04:23 jyuj wrote:Hacker: CarpeDiem Server: NA League: DIAMOND Replay: http://drop.sc/345562Description: (New) Resource Hack, Map Hack, Production Hack There is a lot of shady stuff that goes down. CarpeDiem always seems to know just what to do, and right when to do it. BUT I am not even mad that the cheater was map hacking, or probably using the production hack. So I am not going to go through all the trouble to time stamp all his FOW looks and perfect counters. (I just assume that about 60% of my games are V.S. haxors, and it has made my games more solid because I try to not out smart my opponent and just play standard, or in such a way that the game comes down to micro. I mean there are not hacks where it micros for you? Opps that is right, there is Stalker blink hack HAHAHAHAHahahah O blissard!) I am amazed that there is a (new) resource hack. Which he was using. During the game some of the resources that he was spending were not being subtracted from his bank of minerals and gas. It gets really obvy after the nydus wurms go down. Now I wrote up a huge ass thing about how I don't think Blissard is doing enough to stop hackers, and I got some BS thing about the time "T", which is the amount of time that goes between when Blissard does the mass bannings. I wonder how long this hack will be in use and how long it will take before CarpeDiem has to pay another 60$ for his biannual service subscription to hack in the game that I love ................................... I see zero evidence of hacking here after about 20 minutes of analyzing. Nice cheese + BM btw. Now, I'll totally believe you when you take the time to post all of the FoW peeks (I saw none at all) and perfect counters (At 17:40 when he started the spire, he had just seen an immortal, so of course he's going to go spire? at 22:00 when you attacked his main, surely a hacker would have seen that coming and sent his units back to his base and stop making drones? etc.) On June 23 2013 21:59 paoskie wrote:Hacker: llllll Server: NA League: GOLD Replay: http://drop.sc/345520Description: It's a PvZ. Even though I won I watched the replay cause I was curious. He knew where my mutalisks are. He never went aggressive with his Pheonixes to my base. And he just quit. 1. ~7:50 > Panned his camera to my incoming roaches. PRECISELY on my Roaches. 2.~10:05 > Panned his camera to check the front of my base. And more roaches that are coming. 3. ~12:30 > Panned his camera to my base to check for my techs. Saw that I was making spire. 4. ~13:37 > Panned his camera to my: a.) Expo (Checking if Spire is done) b.) Main Base (Checking if my Lair is Hive and also for other techs.) c.) 3rd Base (Checking if its done.) 5. ~14:26-14:34 > Blindy made Photon Cannons. 3 in his main. 1 in his expo. 6. ~15:10 > Panned his camera precisely to where my Mutalisks are. Intercepting with his Pheonix. 7. ~15:40-~15:45 > Intercepted my Mutalisk on the onther side of the map. He knew where they are going to. 8. ~16:11 > Placed his Pheonix on the Xel Naga Tower. Where my Mutalisks are. 9. ~17:40 > Attacked my overlords that he never saw. Even panned his camera precisely to where they are. 10. ~18:09 > Panned camera a bit to the left to see what my army is and its precise location as he was attacking my overlords. 11. ~19:03 > CAMERA PANNED ON TOP OF MY ARMY. WTF. 12. ~19:40 > Camera panned to my 4th base. Checking on it. WTF 13. ~19:59 > Camera hovered on my army. Why would he hover your camera on my moving army? Of course. He's maphacking. He wants to see what I have. 14. ~21:35-36 > Camera hovered over where my army is. Checking for info. 15. ~23:28 > Checked out my army again. THEN HE JUST QUITS. The whole game he never made an observer. He never scouted my base properly. Looked at a couple areas. 7:50 He could see the roaches with the mothership core lol 10:00 Yeah that's pretty incriminating, he has no reason to be looking there. 12:30 I see no reason to look there. 13:30 Yup! 16:00 Not definite, could be clearing the watchtowers since he seems to be going allin soon. 19:00 Not maphack here, was sending phoenixes but then changed his mind. 19:40 Incriminating, he has no reason to look there! 20:00 Not sure, he has no reason to look there if he has minimap vision but he's not intending to do anything there. 21:30 Probably. He's looking right at it, after all! I'm going to point out at this point that he is god-awful as he doesn't even position his army and has stayed on 2 bases the whole game for no reason. 23:30 Suspicious with the quitting but perhaps he gave up. I give this a 95% of being a maphack but it's not absolutely certain. He's quite awful for being gold. So nothing to say about the resource hack?
I don't know about The_Templar, but I see no evidence of a resource hack. Maybe you were confused by him cancelling hatcheries so that his mineral count rose a couple times, or by his mineral income being double yours while your worker count was slightly less than his at roughly the 12-minute mark (you had workers not mining minerals though), but I didn't see anything that looked like an actual resource hack. He had more bases than you for most of that game, and you slightly outspent him. When I checked, his drones were picking the regulation 5 minerals per journey, too.
I don't see what you mean by 'All his FOW looks and perfect counters' either. You're going to have to specify exactly what's wrong with this replay with timestamps and whatnot, because I don't see any cause for suspicion here at all.
Currently, to me, this looks like you BMed a player in chat, prematurely accused him of hacking (not surprised, if you really think 60% of the ladder is hacking), and have come to this thread looking for validation.
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On June 24 2013 23:16 wUndertUnge wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 15:09 codonbyte wrote:On June 24 2013 11:52 S2Lunar wrote:Hacker: Nerffy Server: NA League: GM Replay: http://ggtracker.com/matches/3561561Description: Super obvious hacker.. knows every position of my army... always finds my drops. He never scouted once. Nerffy has been a widely-known hacker for a long time. He hangs out on a lot of the streams that I hang out in, and will often come into chat and admit, no, boast about his maphacking. He/she constantly stream-snipes certain streamers. Sometimes he'll immediately leave the game after stream-sniping a streamer that he likes in order to help them out (it should be noted that no streamer's that I've seen endorse this behavior in any way). Other times he just plays them, stream-cheating and maphacking at the same time (I guess he likes wearing a belt and suspenders, lol). One of the things that makes Nerffy especially annoying to deal with is that unlike many maphackers, who completely suck at the game, Nerffy's actually pretty good. He's good enough so that with the aid of a maphack he can be really hard to beat, even for GM players, which means you may not get the satisfaction of seeing your favorite pros stomp him. Oh and he has numerous accounts in addition to his main account, some of them with random names and some of them with barcodes. So if you're a GM and you're facing a barcode who just seems to know exactly what you're doing, it could very well be Nerffy. But yeah, Nerffy has been around for ages. Even if Blizzard ever gets around to banning him, he will most definitely buy new accounts. Unfortunately we may just have to get used to Nerffy's presence, unless someone can figure out how to DDOS him + Show Spoiler +JUST KIDDING! Scum like Nerffy isn't worth going to jail over. Can't Blizz block his IP?
Its very easy for people to get around IP blocks, for most of the world they just need to reboot their router, even for people with static IPs there are enough tunneling and proxy services available cheap/free to make it a waste of time and if the person shares an IP with some other people, say flatmates, they can get blocked from battlenet as well.
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On June 25 2013 00:01 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:20 codonbyte wrote:On June 24 2013 23:16 wUndertUnge wrote:On June 24 2013 15:09 codonbyte wrote:On June 24 2013 11:52 S2Lunar wrote:Hacker: Nerffy Server: NA League: GM Replay: http://ggtracker.com/matches/3561561Description: Super obvious hacker.. knows every position of my army... always finds my drops. He never scouted once. Nerffy has been a widely-known hacker for a long time. He hangs out on a lot of the streams that I hang out in, and will often come into chat and admit, no, boast about his maphacking. He/she constantly stream-snipes certain streamers. Sometimes he'll immediately leave the game after stream-sniping a streamer that he likes in order to help them out (it should be noted that no streamer's that I've seen endorse this behavior in any way). Other times he just plays them, stream-cheating and maphacking at the same time (I guess he likes wearing a belt and suspenders, lol). One of the things that makes Nerffy especially annoying to deal with is that unlike many maphackers, who completely suck at the game, Nerffy's actually pretty good. He's good enough so that with the aid of a maphack he can be really hard to beat, even for GM players, which means you may not get the satisfaction of seeing your favorite pros stomp him. Oh and he has numerous accounts in addition to his main account, some of them with random names and some of them with barcodes. So if you're a GM and you're facing a barcode who just seems to know exactly what you're doing, it could very well be Nerffy. But yeah, Nerffy has been around for ages. Even if Blizzard ever gets around to banning him, he will most definitely buy new accounts. Unfortunately we may just have to get used to Nerffy's presence, unless someone can figure out how to DDOS him + Show Spoiler +JUST KIDDING! Scum like Nerffy isn't worth going to jail over. Can't Blizz block his IP? That's what I've been thinking. If someone hacks, what if Blizzard could ban them in a way that would prevent them from purchasing the game again? Imagine if you had to show an ID to purchase a copy of SC2. I'm not suggesting that they do that because it would create all kinds of other problems (like not being able to download a digital version of SC2), but just imagine for a second that in pretend-land you have to show an ID to purchase SC2. Then if a player hacked Blizzard could give them a lifetime ban from SC2, which would be a real punishment. I bet fewer people would hack if that were the case. And yes Blizzard does have the technology to block IPs, but I'm 99% sure that they don't currently have a policy of doing it. 1) It's easy to change your IP. 2) If they ban life MHer, t will be a big hole in their income. Every online game only ban the account you cheated on, because it's more profitable for them.
I'm not sure about it being more profitable. Having a maphacker on the ladder decreases the value of the experience for everyone, which in turn means lost sales for Blizzard. I think lifetime banning map-hackers could be profitable for Blizzard.
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On June 25 2013 00:30 Aim Here wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 21:39 jyuj wrote:On June 24 2013 05:26 The_Templar wrote:On June 24 2013 04:23 jyuj wrote:Hacker: CarpeDiem Server: NA League: DIAMOND Replay: http://drop.sc/345562Description: (New) Resource Hack, Map Hack, Production Hack There is a lot of shady stuff that goes down. CarpeDiem always seems to know just what to do, and right when to do it. BUT I am not even mad that the cheater was map hacking, or probably using the production hack. So I am not going to go through all the trouble to time stamp all his FOW looks and perfect counters. (I just assume that about 60% of my games are V.S. haxors, and it has made my games more solid because I try to not out smart my opponent and just play standard, or in such a way that the game comes down to micro. I mean there are not hacks where it micros for you? Opps that is right, there is Stalker blink hack HAHAHAHAHahahah O blissard!) I am amazed that there is a (new) resource hack. Which he was using. During the game some of the resources that he was spending were not being subtracted from his bank of minerals and gas. It gets really obvy after the nydus wurms go down. Now I wrote up a huge ass thing about how I don't think Blissard is doing enough to stop hackers, and I got some BS thing about the time "T", which is the amount of time that goes between when Blissard does the mass bannings. I wonder how long this hack will be in use and how long it will take before CarpeDiem has to pay another 60$ for his biannual service subscription to hack in the game that I love ................................... I see zero evidence of hacking here after about 20 minutes of analyzing. Nice cheese + BM btw. Now, I'll totally believe you when you take the time to post all of the FoW peeks (I saw none at all) and perfect counters (At 17:40 when he started the spire, he had just seen an immortal, so of course he's going to go spire? at 22:00 when you attacked his main, surely a hacker would have seen that coming and sent his units back to his base and stop making drones? etc.) On June 23 2013 21:59 paoskie wrote:Hacker: llllll Server: NA League: GOLD Replay: http://drop.sc/345520Description: It's a PvZ. Even though I won I watched the replay cause I was curious. He knew where my mutalisks are. He never went aggressive with his Pheonixes to my base. And he just quit. 1. ~7:50 > Panned his camera to my incoming roaches. PRECISELY on my Roaches. 2.~10:05 > Panned his camera to check the front of my base. And more roaches that are coming. 3. ~12:30 > Panned his camera to my base to check for my techs. Saw that I was making spire. 4. ~13:37 > Panned his camera to my: a.) Expo (Checking if Spire is done) b.) Main Base (Checking if my Lair is Hive and also for other techs.) c.) 3rd Base (Checking if its done.) 5. ~14:26-14:34 > Blindy made Photon Cannons. 3 in his main. 1 in his expo. 6. ~15:10 > Panned his camera precisely to where my Mutalisks are. Intercepting with his Pheonix. 7. ~15:40-~15:45 > Intercepted my Mutalisk on the onther side of the map. He knew where they are going to. 8. ~16:11 > Placed his Pheonix on the Xel Naga Tower. Where my Mutalisks are. 9. ~17:40 > Attacked my overlords that he never saw. Even panned his camera precisely to where they are. 10. ~18:09 > Panned camera a bit to the left to see what my army is and its precise location as he was attacking my overlords. 11. ~19:03 > CAMERA PANNED ON TOP OF MY ARMY. WTF. 12. ~19:40 > Camera panned to my 4th base. Checking on it. WTF 13. ~19:59 > Camera hovered on my army. Why would he hover your camera on my moving army? Of course. He's maphacking. He wants to see what I have. 14. ~21:35-36 > Camera hovered over where my army is. Checking for info. 15. ~23:28 > Checked out my army again. THEN HE JUST QUITS. The whole game he never made an observer. He never scouted my base properly. Looked at a couple areas. 7:50 He could see the roaches with the mothership core lol 10:00 Yeah that's pretty incriminating, he has no reason to be looking there. 12:30 I see no reason to look there. 13:30 Yup! 16:00 Not definite, could be clearing the watchtowers since he seems to be going allin soon. 19:00 Not maphack here, was sending phoenixes but then changed his mind. 19:40 Incriminating, he has no reason to look there! 20:00 Not sure, he has no reason to look there if he has minimap vision but he's not intending to do anything there. 21:30 Probably. He's looking right at it, after all! I'm going to point out at this point that he is god-awful as he doesn't even position his army and has stayed on 2 bases the whole game for no reason. 23:30 Suspicious with the quitting but perhaps he gave up. I give this a 95% of being a maphack but it's not absolutely certain. He's quite awful for being gold. So nothing to say about the resource hack? I don't know about The_Templar, but I see no evidence of a resource hack. Maybe you were confused by him cancelling hatcheries so that his mineral count rose a couple times, or by his mineral income being double yours while your worker count was slightly less than his at roughly the 12-minute mark (you had workers not mining minerals though), but I didn't see anything that looked like an actual resource hack. He had more bases than you for most of that game, and you slightly outspent him. When I checked, his drones were picking the regulation 5 minerals per journey, too. I don't see what you mean by 'All his FOW looks and perfect counters' either. You're going to have to specify exactly what's wrong with this replay with timestamps and whatnot, because I don't see any cause for suspicion here at all. Currently, to me, this looks like you BMed a player in chat, prematurely accused him of hacking (not surprised, if you really think 60% of the ladder is hacking), and have come to this thread looking for validation.
I also checked.
When he was attacking with nydus worms, he lost his units very slowly and produced little, which left him with a big bank that he didn't spend very well.
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Platinum
http://drop.sc/345758 Times: 8:28, 8:50 - 9:08 (scan), 9:38 (observer), 10:13-:10:20, 11:31, 11:45, 13:50, 15:43, 18:31, 20:03 (third expansion, never scouted ^^), 21:05. 22:52, 24:14
he is a bad player. lots of supply blocks, wastes drops, really bad macro
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Hacker Name: RatZTricky
http://sc2ranks.com/eu/3930935/RatZTricky
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3930935/1/RatZTricky/
Server: EU
League: Gold (his first season 11-2 record, his mmr is up to masters after 13 games) ((yes, not very hard to do on a smurf account but still)
Description: Does not try to hide that he is using maphacks and can see opponents production. added a bunch of timestamps.
Replay: http://drop.sc/345765
2.37 - changing from repetedly klicking to my natural hatcherys center position to trying to hind probe behind my hatchery in the fog of war (Fow from now on)
6.30 - Blindly counters my baneling all in without any scouting part from seing 1 zergling on the map.
7.42 - Even tells me to get out without seing more than 5 lings (no evidence but still)
9.02 - swings his camera towards the area where my scouting overlord is entering his main and warps in a stalker and sentry before the overlord should be visible for him
10.45 - moves out with 1 zealot to clear 1 unscouted zergling at the 4 o'clock base (perfectly ok move) on his way back he magically dodges my incomming group of zerglings.
11.28 - he scouts my queen and zerglings (in the fow) and moves his warpprism back.
11.30 - voidray rally straight to my overlord (very common place so kinda vague) he then attackmoves his voidray (via minimap) right ontop 1 zergling and 4 overlords without any other stops and rallys the next voidray on to a fifth overlord.
12.40 - targets warpprism and scouts static defense through fow in my main and desides to warp in at my 4th instead (wich he has not scouted)
13.10 - immidiatly retreates his zealots to his warpprism when my army moves towardshim
13.25 - moves his warpprism to my main and adjust the path to where there is no static defense tho he still have not scouted my main once.
14.50 - moves his army to intercept an unscouted attack at his third (after being inactive with his main army the entire game) he move cammands until the lings are about to attack then he attack moves his army before seing my lings.
15.44 - he targets his warpprism and lookes through my 5th, main and natural for static defense and when I plant my 5th again he immidiatly sends it to my 5th base
16.20 - he moves to attack my 4th base wich he has not scouted (very shortly after it finished and while my ultras was in production)
17.15 - he moves warpprism in just out of range from unscouted sporecrawler
18.12 - he forcfeields ramp with perfect timing (just as movement starting on minimap) for incomming units. (dont ask why he forcefields ultras, but he probably only reacted to minimap movement)
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