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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Maasked
Profile Joined December 2011
United States567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 15:27:53
June 28 2013 17:12 GMT
#6281
EDIT: Wrongful accusation. I apologize.
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Shin_Gouki
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 18:29:09
June 28 2013 18:28 GMT
#6282
Hacker: [eXeA]Soulquest
Server: NA
League: Masters
Replay: http://drop.sc/346555

Description: Pretty sure I caught myself a blink hacker. The time I feel like he's using blink hack is 14:50. Had a friend observe, we both aren't sure.

(Forgot replay link)
Death comes in many forms
XTStarFire
Profile Joined June 2013
United States14 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 19:42:52
June 28 2013 19:34 GMT
#6283
Hacker: HeartofDaNub
Server: NA
League: Diamond when the game was played, but he is now Master due to a really long string of wins.
Replay: http://drop.sc/346561

Description: This guy is using a fog of war maphack, and potentially a production tab hack. I know this because I play from behind most of this game due to a shitty opening, and used warp prisms to try to equalize the game.

The most obvious uses of it:

~22:30 one of my warp prisms gets chased down blindly by his whole army. He also had a drone with the army and pretended like he meant to expand anyway.

~30:00 he send his entire army after another warp prism

~33:00 here comes the entire army, chasing after something it can't see.

It's pretty obvious, as he doesn't hide it well. Also has horrendous macro for a master league player as well as weird army position to intecept dts, morphing overseers only AFTER the dark shrine finishes, and always knowing whether my army is at my third or at my natural.

Thanks.
My life for XT
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
June 30 2013 02:03 GMT
#6284
For some reason i decided to go back to WoL and play a few games and i had the pleasure of playing a Nitrix dude using the same type of hacks Daisuke aka (NITRIXeDRINK) was caught using a while ago, im talking about MapHack and Autoinject.
This dude i played sucked in massive proportions so i dont think its Daisuke himself BUT definitely has some things in common; plays zerg, same hotkeys, same hacks, same clan/team...

Hacker Name: NITRIXxBLADEe
Battle.net: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/585168/2/NITRIxXBLADe/
SC2Ranks: http://sc2ranks.com/la/585168/NITRIxXBLADe
Server: NA
Version: WoL
League: He's Top Diamond now (last season bronze 24-3 record)
Description:Looks in the fog of war, no vision of my army but still he counters almost every one of my moves on the map including changelings and of course the disgusting thing here is the Queen's Autoinject, the cute part was him calling me a hacker before leaving the game, he lost.
Replay: http://drop.sc/346775?pass=b5f8ea62-bb09-47eb-918a-a402e84185a8
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
BoFFi
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden6 Posts
June 30 2013 13:50 GMT
#6285
Im not hacking, please go over the replay and see what I see with my observers.
Took out observer on highground due to I saw it with my obs, flew it away a bit so my oponnent couldnt see my obs, took it out with stalkers, warpprism sees with observer second time saw warpprism a glimps on minimap before warpin.
Hate hackers myself and would never cheat in a game im trying to improve in.
gl hf!
Let's!
Sleepy_General
Profile Joined November 2012
South Africa8 Posts
June 30 2013 15:27 GMT
#6286
On June 29 2013 02:12 Maasked wrote:
Hacker name:[xONA]BoFFi
Server NA
League Masters
Description: Pretty obvious hacker, at one point he sees my warp prism with an observer, and i was fine with that. but later when he has absolutely no vision of its wherabouts he randomly aclicks his entire army onto it.

Soon after that he moves a few stalkers near an observer and takes a few seconds to realize that his obs cant see it (it is also cloaked on HIGHGROUND where he cant even see a blurb) and moves the obs to kill it. He very much doesnt want to be caught by his bm and comments to me. My best guess is that this kid doesnt realize what is and isnt in his vision so when he told me to watch the replay he thought that most things would have been in his vision. Well they werent. Anyway. here is replay http://drop.sc/346547


After BoFFi's reply I watched the replay. If you look at his vision, you can see that he spots your observer with his, pulls it away and then sends stalkers to the location. He also definitely catches your warp prism in the vision of his stalkers just before moving his army back into his base, so he just has good mini-map awareness.

He also does some things that seem inconsistent with a hacker. He tries to expand by sending down a probe with a 'build nexus' command while your army is camped in his natural (outside of his vision). He makes 2 observers and is fairly active with 1 of them the entire game and spends decent portions following its vision. He never finds 2 of your pylons on his side of the map.

There is almost no way he is hacking. He just got slightly lucky with a few units crossing paths with each other at various points.
Maasked
Profile Joined December 2011
United States567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 16:27:49
June 30 2013 15:28 GMT
#6287
On July 01 2013 00:27 Sleepy_General wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 02:12 Maasked wrote:
Hacker name:[xONA]BoFFi
Server NA
League Masters
Description: Pretty obvious hacker, at one point he sees my warp prism with an observer, and i was fine with that. but later when he has absolutely no vision of its wherabouts he randomly aclicks his entire army onto it.

Soon after that he moves a few stalkers near an observer and takes a few seconds to realize that his obs cant see it (it is also cloaked on HIGHGROUND where he cant even see a blurb) and moves the obs to kill it. He very much doesnt want to be caught by his bm and comments to me. My best guess is that this kid doesnt realize what is and isnt in his vision so when he told me to watch the replay he thought that most things would have been in his vision. Well they werent. Anyway. here is replay http://drop.sc/346547


After BoFFi's reply I watched the replay. If you look at his vision, you can see that he spots your observer with his, pulls it away and then sends stalkers to the location. He also definitely catches your warp prism in the vision of his stalkers just before moving his army back into his base, so he just has good mini-map awareness.

He also does some things that seem inconsistent with a hacker. He tries to expand by sending down a probe with a 'build nexus' command while your army is camped in his natural (outside of his vision). He makes 2 observers and is fairly active with 1 of them the entire game and spends decent portions following its vision. He never finds 2 of your pylons on his side of the map.

There is almost no way he is hacking. He just got slightly lucky with a few units crossing paths with each other at various points.

confirmed and edited. I apologize.
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goofy6
Profile Joined June 2013
Sweden4 Posts
June 30 2013 15:41 GMT
#6288
@Maasked, when do you feel he was BM? After you accuse him of hacking? You were quite BM yourself, perhaps being a little mad in the situation where a few things failed. You really shouldnt pass judgement on him this time.
Maasked
Profile Joined December 2011
United States567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 16:27:35
June 30 2013 15:55 GMT
#6289
EDIT: Redacted
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goofy6
Profile Joined June 2013
Sweden4 Posts
June 30 2013 16:18 GMT
#6290
Look at the situation from his perspective. He might have been a bit upset and mad with you? Especially the way you put it in the chat.

Anyway, I am not defending him - just hate it when people say they are sorry and then are not... you are the cause of the situation I feel like because of the way you went at it.

I can see why 2-posters in this thread makes you wonder. See, perspective...

TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
June 30 2013 16:25 GMT
#6291
The way that you accuse him of cheating and attack him is pretty bm yourself masked..
aka SethN
Maasked
Profile Joined December 2011
United States567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 16:48:54
June 30 2013 16:25 GMT
#6292
On July 01 2013 01:18 goofy6 wrote:
Look at the situation from his perspective. He might have been a bit upset and mad with you? Especially the way you put it in the chat.

Anyway, I am not defending him - just hate it when people say they are sorry and then are not... you are the cause of the situation I feel like because of the way you went at it.

I can see why 2-posters in this thread makes you wonder. See, perspective...


Neither of us handled the situation very well. He was mad, I was mad. he didnt maphack. I really dont care to discuss this further.
EDIT: im not going to stay on this topic, but you do make a point and I have PMed him a second time and apologized for the way I have acted.
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codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
June 30 2013 17:01 GMT
#6293
While Maasked obviously shouldn't have been so quick to accuse him of map-hacking, I feel it is also pretty BM to continue having a go at Maasked after he apologized, admitted he was wrong, and took back the statements he made.
Procrastination is the enemy
goofy6
Profile Joined June 2013
Sweden4 Posts
June 30 2013 17:06 GMT
#6294
See, there you go again - you dont take responsibility for YOUR actions.
I punch someone in the face, he punches back - he could have handled it better!
Maasked
Profile Joined December 2011
United States567 Posts
June 30 2013 18:00 GMT
#6295
On July 01 2013 02:01 codonbyte wrote:
While Maasked obviously shouldn't have been so quick to accuse him of map-hacking, I feel it is also pretty BM to continue having a go at Maasked after he apologized, admitted he was wrong, and took back the statements he made.

I continued going at it in a few posts that are edited, so I deserve it.
Though this is not the thread for this and if anyone wants to continue you can PM me.
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Jade
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland289 Posts
June 30 2013 18:29 GMT
#6296
On June 25 2013 08:42 TRpredator wrote:
Hacker Name: hasudrone
starcraft://profile/2/8986800028395765760
http://sc2ranks.com/eu/1953612/hasudrone
Server: EU
League: master
Description: Maphack
Replay:http://drop.sc/345815
12:30 he blinks in with stalkers when my army is away
13:20 blinks in again when my army is out the main without any scouting
17:05 pre-storm the place where my army is headding without any knowledge where my army position is
22 30 positions his army without any knowledge where my army is
27:00 make a pylon near cc and starts making zealots without even knowing it was there
27"45 retreats back to defend his base as soon as he sees that I want to attack
31:40 attacks 4th base blindly and pre emptivly warp ins hts to defend his other expo


1. He is my friend, he is legitimately good.
2. He is not in the real MaxFloPlaY, not to be mistaken with the legit polish team ( im in it, so i know ).
@KRN_Jade "Patience is a small price to pay for perfection."
Zoku
Profile Joined November 2010
307 Posts
June 30 2013 21:05 GMT
#6297
Hacker: [xO]TicKleMeElmO
Server: NA
League: Masters
Replay: http://drop.sc/346874

Description: He doesn't do much that confirms hacking, but he plays exactly like a hacker would (ie poor control for his level, no scouting, no overlord spread).

First sketching thing he does is he makes a lot of roaches with speed but no upgrades off of 2 base. This would normally mean a big roach push, but he doesn't push out with them, but instead, transitions to muta, again, off of 2 base. Again, this is all without scouting anything.

The only thing that looks really hackish is at 13:30, when he sends his muta to intercept a drop which he never scouted.

Near the end, he also attack moves his entire army to my 4th, which is also unscouted. He can assume I have a 4th, but it's very strange to A-move your entire army there.

Overall, he doesn't do anything that screams hacking, but it's pretty obvious based on how he plays that he hacks.
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 11:23:06
July 01 2013 11:21 GMT
#6298
Hacker: llllllllllll
Server: NA
League: Masters
Replay: http://drop.sc/346978

I'm assuming this is Nerffy on a barcode account, as no one else blatantly hacks to this degree with T. Hacked against or not, you know your p vs t is trash when you lose to this guy.

30 minute game. Guy never scv scouts (not a reaper build). He never throws down even 1 scouting scan. He also had a pretty hero dt pick off at 28:15, when he randomly splits off 5 marines, stims them, and throws down a scan to kill a dt going towards an expo. But, then again, I didn't have a program that was able to detect him hacking, so I dunno man...
Manlier
Profile Joined December 2010
United States32 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 08:11:26
July 01 2013 14:41 GMT
#6299
you decide


I think this is a map hacker. He played 5 zerg placement matches, the rest are terran.

Why I say he is map hacker... At start of game, the camera is locked on his main building, while he has 250 apm minimum for the first minute. A screen never stays locked on a position like that with that much apm.

Also. when the camera does move in the first 30 seconds.. you can tell the player click on the mini map to look at my rally position. It was a click on the minimap, then he moved lower. His map play was painfully hacker eske. always taking advantage of my location and weaknesses.

http://drop.sc/346986

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4734833/1/JohnColtrane/matches

This guy played his first 5 placements zerg.. all rest are terran. I think this guy was hacker.

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/Manlier/johncol5_zpsad478097.png

http://drop.sc/346986

"Things never happen the same way twice" C.S. Lewis
Hetairoi
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Sweden508 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 19:28:30
July 01 2013 18:31 GMT
#6300
On July 01 2013 23:41 Manlier wrote:
I think this is a map hacker. He played 5 zerg placement matches, the rest are terran.

Why I say he is map hacker... At start of game, the camera is locked on his main building, while he has 250 apm minimum for the first minute. A screen never stays locked on a position like that with that much apm.

Also. when the camera does move in the first 30 seconds.. you can tell the player click on the mini map to look at my rally position. It was a click on the minimap, then he moved lower to make it see irrelevant. His map scene was painfully hacker eske. always taking advantage of my location and weaknesses.

http://drop.sc/346986

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4734833/1/JohnColtrane/matches

This guy played his first 5 placements zerg.. all rest are terran. I think this guy was hacker.

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/Manlier/johncol5_zpsad478097.png


That's my account, and I sure as fuck don't cheat.

E: Can a mod please look over the replay and then remove/edit his post, the replay should make it clear that I don't map hack. I would also love to know how my placement matches are relevant to the match we played.
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