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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody. Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. | ||
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Manlier
United States32 Posts
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On July 02 2013 07:28 Manlier wrote: I didn't know people with 60 games on thier accounts could do so well. What are your other accounts that you used to play on. Don't be ridiculous, that's completely irrelevant. | ||
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Manlier
United States32 Posts
I would like to say, its amazing that you even found that post so fast. I don't ever think to even look on this website, let alone look for posts about me in hacker thread on TL. And then someone named JustinBeiber messages me on starcraft asking if i reported you without like 6 hours of doing so. JustinBieber: hey u reported john?? johncoltrane You: yea | ||
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Manlier
United States32 Posts
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GoobyPlox
2 Posts
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Msr
Korea (South)495 Posts
On July 02 2013 09:25 Manlier wrote: ] and for that matter, just because you deny it doesn't mean anything to me. I've been playing RTS since sc1. ive played 16 years and really, either your very good at playing without scouting or scanning. Which isn't the case.. the game camera is locked on your base with 250 apm. your obviously using screen lock. then first move you make is to where my rally was for overlord. I never got to do my roach all in against you because of your well timed perfectly executed harassment. It wouldn't have mattered anyways because your had tanks to counter it, which you had blindly without knowing any amount of my army or ever seeing army count. for all it mattered, you could have thought I was on one base, which wasn't the case. You then sent a dumby scout in form of a drop ship over expo when that path really was not the best route to take in terms of harrass, it wasn't even any logical path for that matter. Your entire play is strong and without merit, your a powerful player and you have 0 scouting. your moves are always right and you dont even miss a step. that is all suspicious to me, your good. I'm not saying your not good..but im saying map hack. He does not hack. Both of you played awful, but that is irrelevant. His reaper scouting at the start was typical of lower skilled legit players. He noticed your expo was not down and checked everywhere relevent including top right, but never pieced together there was a proxy hatch which a good player or maphacker would have sent a scv to. (if he maphacked his reaper would have went left at the start and not right) Time devoted does not signify skill at all. His harassment sucked, and any good player could have held that with 50% handicap and 1 hand, stop accusing people who do nothing suspicious. His play was garbage as well. | ||
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
On July 02 2013 09:25 Manlier wrote: the game camera is locked on your base with 250 apm. your obviously using screen lock. then first move you make is to where my rally was for overlord. I disagree. Why would you ever need to move your screen in the first 30 seconds? I mean, you can, but don't you think that screen lock is far more plausible 15 minutes into the game rather than at the beginning where you don't see shit? | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On July 02 2013 07:52 Manlier wrote: I think its reasonable for someone to call a person out who only has 60 games on their account who plays so strong. No, that's retarded not reasonable. He could easily have played on different servers or different accounts. Game count is irrelevant. | ||
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
On July 02 2013 09:25 Manlier wrote: ] and for that matter, just because you deny it doesn't mean anything to me. I've been playing RTS since sc1. ive played 16 years and really, either your very good at playing without scouting or scanning. Which isn't the case.. the game camera is locked on your base with 250 apm. your obviously using screen lock. then first move you make is to where my rally was for overlord. I never got to do my roach all in against you because of your well timed perfectly executed harassment. It wouldn't have mattered anyways because your had tanks to counter it, which you had blindly without knowing any amount of my army or ever seeing army count. for all it mattered, you could have thought I was on one base, which wasn't the case. You then sent a dumby scout in form of a drop ship over expo when that path really was not the best route to take in terms of harrass, it wasn't even any logical path for that matter. Your entire play is strong and without merit, your a powerful player and you have 0 scouting. your moves are always right and you dont even miss a step. that is all suspicious to me, your good. I'm not saying your not good..but im saying map hack. Oh my, I watched the replay and it is hilarious. You call this map hack? He didn't send an army to kill your proxy hatch until 16:00. While he has been dropping you for 4 minutes straight, he doesn't send a single marine to harass drones protected by only 2 spines. You wonder why he makes tanks? He scouts a lack of second base for an incredible amount of time (at 6:30, he has scouted all three potential natural and still sees no expansion), what do you want him to do, triple expand? You accuse him of scouting using a "dumby scout"? You mean, after he dropped you again and again on the eastern part of your base, he tries to go west once, and it is dumb? This is definitely not maphack, and you even suggesting it makes it hilarious On July 02 2013 13:46 Scarecrow wrote: No, that's retarded not reasonable. He could easily have played on different servers or different accounts. Game count is irrelevant. Entirely agree Edit : This is gold : "I never got to do my roach all in against you because of your well timed perfectly executed harassment.". You meant... he sent... 2 reapers? At very very very standard timings? I am sorry, but making a cheese that loses to standard play is... not a good cheese... | ||
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
On July 01 2013 06:05 Zoku wrote: Hacker: [xO]TicKleMeElmO Server: NA League: Masters Replay: http://drop.sc/346874 Description: He doesn't do much that confirms hacking, but he plays exactly like a hacker would (ie poor control for his level, no scouting, no overlord spread). First sketching thing he does is he makes a lot of roaches with speed but no upgrades off of 2 base. This would normally mean a big roach push, but he doesn't push out with them, but instead, transitions to muta, again, off of 2 base. Again, this is all without scouting anything. The only thing that looks really hackish is at 13:30, when he sends his muta to intercept a drop which he never scouted. Near the end, he also attack moves his entire army to my 4th, which is also unscouted. He can assume I have a 4th, but it's very strange to A-move your entire army there. Overall, he doesn't do anything that screams hacking, but it's pretty obvious based on how he plays that he hacks. I don't agree with the accusation of map hacking. In order : he makes two base roach, then transitions to mutas. It is normal that he goes for roach, seeing your reaper/hellion opening. What could he have seen in the fog that made him change his mind? Is there an obvious reason to do so? Supposing that terran makes medivacs and going for 2 base mutas is an okayish strategy. At 13:44, he sends muta across the map at a totally legit place, while your medivac is about to exit your base. In the mini map, nothing indicates that you start a drop. 20 seconds later and half the map across, he actually sees the medivacs at the very border of his vision without ever having changed the course of his mutas. You also should note that at 15:00 and 16:00, he changes the trajectory of his mutas while they were super close to undefended medivacs in the fog above airspace. I do not think he hacks. In fact, I am pretty sure he doesn't. I agree that he has nearly no overlord spread, but he has decent control, and he scouted you in a way because you were so agressive (you showed reapers, then hellions, then medivacs, and just after he goes across the map and scouts you) | ||
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
On June 30 2013 11:03 danbel1005 wrote: For some reason i decided to go back to WoL and play a few games and i had the pleasure of playing a Nitrix dude using the same type of hacks Daisuke aka (NITRIXeDRINK) was caught using a while ago, im talking about MapHack and Autoinject. This dude i played sucked in massive proportions so i dont think its Daisuke himself BUT definitely has some things in common; plays zerg, same hotkeys, same hacks, same clan/team... Hacker Name: NITRIXxBLADEe Battle.net: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/585168/2/NITRIxXBLADe/ SC2Ranks: http://sc2ranks.com/la/585168/NITRIxXBLADe Server: NA Version: WoL League: He's Top Diamond now (last season bronze 24-3 record) Description:Looks in the fog of war, no vision of my army but still he counters almost every one of my moves on the map including changelings and of course the disgusting thing here is the Queen's Autoinject, the cute part was him calling me a hacker before leaving the game, he lost. Replay: http://drop.sc/346775?pass=b5f8ea62-bb09-47eb-918a-a402e84185a8 Agreed, autoinject is obvious (perfect inject without selecting the queens, while microing units on the other side of the map) | ||
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Manlier
United States32 Posts
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Manlier
United States32 Posts
[B]On July 02 2013 14:19 fezvez wrote: He didn't send an army to kill your proxy hatch until 16:00. While he has been dropping you for 4 minutes straight, he doesn't send a single marine to harass drones protected by only 2 spines. If the proxy hatch is close to map hackers base. Why not harass what is far from you, then hit what is close when convenient. If a hacker attacks your expo right when its built, its like.. well you lost 300 minerals. But when he attacked, I lost all mining from my second base.. and anything I had there. Much harder to recover when the whole game plan was to roach baneling all in. The player obviously saw the roach bane all in. If indeed he was map hacker, he knew about roach/bane all in coming and knew about proxy hatch. meaning the logical step would be wall off, go tanks, and drop all game until your ahead. You wonder why he makes tanks? he never spotted my army or scanned for it He scouts a lack of second base for an incredible amount of time (at 6:30, he has scouted all three potential natural and still sees no expansion), what do you want him to do, triple expand? Terrans do triple expand... after the scanned for army numbers and see whats going on. You accuse him of scouting using a "dumby scout"? You mean, after he dropped you again and again on the eastern part of your base, he tries to go west once, and it is dumb? He went a path that is very suspicuos to me, thats all. also, at 2:50 seconds, he stops scout SVC and builds wall. He sends it back to base when my proxy hatch is put down. It might just be coincidence. I think its reasonable for someone to call a person out who only has 60 games on their account who plays so strong. No, that's retarded not reasonable. He could easily have played on different servers or different accounts. Well, I will bookmark his account, and see if it gets deleted one day. Thanks for your input. Edit : This is gold : "I never got to do my roach all in against you because of your well timed perfectly executed harassment.". You meant... he sent... 2 reapers? At very very very standard timings? I am sorry, but making a cheese that loses to standard play is... not a good cheese... The harrass I was talking about, was the double drop ship, that went to my main base, bypassing my expo. He went right for my tech tree. Then, landed at my expo. It didn't appear he had no idea about my expo, just that he didn't want roaches being build to reinforce my base, and then hit the expo after the main. Most terran I play on that map, normally drop at the expo first. | ||
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Manlier
United States32 Posts
Im done accusing him, its really a waste of time since the small things that mean a lot to me, mean nothing to some. | ||
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MaxQT
69 Posts
On July 02 2013 16:33 Manlier wrote: Well for those who watched the game thanks for comments. For those who said we both made mistakes, I think he played a great game, I played like crap. I only made assumptions based on new account/good record/ and few things in the game that confused me. I didn't go through every detail of the game because it would be a waste of everyone's time, but thanks for the incite TL. Im done accusing him, its really a waste of time since the small things that mean a lot to me, mean nothing to some. you don't know what you're talking about, this is a serious thread, people who are confirmed hacker may get banned by blizzard and lose their reputation, you accused him with no real proof, just some really vague things, and then you bitch because you can't get people to believe you? at least put some effort in your posts | ||
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Manlier
United States32 Posts
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sdair
United Kingdom25 Posts
Hacker Name : Iliard Server: EU Version: HoTS League: Plat Replay : drop.sc/347106 Description : I went 8-8-8 proxy reaper, he hilights it by following my scv, looking at my base and at the proxy location. he tries to defend, but unfortunatly maphacks dont make bad players good. | ||
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rogerket
Belize2 Posts
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
On July 03 2013 02:31 rogerket wrote: I made a little experiment on how far you could actually go with blatant map hacking. I went up to Grandmasters, totally did it blatantly, not even hiding it or whatever. And the account has been banned recently. So stop bullshitting the community saying they ban in mass waves. It's absolutely wrong. They'll only ban the ones which are showing it blatantly after a huge numerous amount of reports and replay evidence. Any proof? Like, screenshot of your GM account, screenshot of you using your hacks, proof that your account is disabled? If you don't show any proof, you are not going to be believed. | ||
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
On July 03 2013 01:26 sdair wrote: Your name : sdair Hacker Name : Iliard Server: EU Version: HoTS League: Plat Replay : drop.sc/347106 Description : I went 8-8-8 proxy reaper, he hilights it by following my scv, looking at my base and at the proxy location. he tries to defend, but unfortunatly maphacks dont make bad players good. Absolutely blatant. Keeps on following the proxy SCV in the fog time and time again | ||
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