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codonbyte
United States840 Posts
On June 22 2013 08:44 Fusa wrote: lol he just got shut down Haha YES!! YES!! There's justice in the universe!! Take that you lousy maphacking scum! Now personally, I think he should be put in the stockades for 12 hours or so and forced to wear some pink panties and a bra with some lipstick to boot, but that's probably just my emotions getting in the way  | ||
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mewbert
United States291 Posts
Server : NA League : GM Description : blind countered my build without scouting, never took the towers, knew exactly where my banshees were coming from and the first time he moved his army the whole game, it was in the direction of mine http://drop.sc/345371 | ||
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Akusta
United States41 Posts
Replay(Minute 47 to 48): http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id=g268c78e23a04ba7a999314214ded96d6bc8cb7751 Proof | ||
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wUndertUnge
United States1125 Posts
On June 22 2013 06:27 jyuj wrote: No one ever gets banned. Here is why. The problem is the hack rate is actually something insane, more than 60%. If they start to ban the cheaters Blizzard is going to lose their player base. Blizzard still has 1 more expansion to sell, and has Millions/Billions tied up in contracts with companies who want to run tournaments and streaming services. If they did enforce no hacking it would be like the day of darkness in RuneScape They claim to not tolerate players who hack, but what do you do with the player who only hacked like less than 10 games? Or was "Just trying them out" ? Blizzard really wants another 60$-35$ from all those players =\ Another factor is that it is almost impossible to stop all the hackers, so web sites like TL.net have deals with Blizzard which says they will stifle all talk about demanding results from Blizzard about hackers. This insures that the issue is swept under the rug. Remember it is also in TL.net best interest to not let the truth about hack rates get out because if people stop playing the main game this site is covering, hits go down which in turn means $ goes down. P.S. at least like 5 threads have been started about asking Blizzard for detailed information about hack rates, what they are doing to combat hacking and such. I believe the population does not need more, say nothing about it while saying some vague sentence. All of the threads have been closed for poor reasons, because once again it is not in TL.net best interest to have a thread like that. Is all of this true? You'd think blizz would have some kind of stake in keeping these guys out considering wcs requires master/gm status | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On June 22 2013 22:15 wUndertUnge wrote: Is all of this true? You'd think blizz would have some kind of stake in keeping these guys out considering wcs requires master/gm status He is pulling all of that out of his ass lmao. | ||
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coldscars
Germany141 Posts
server : NA League : High Master http://drop.sc/345401 Really obvious maphacker, ive played him before and never thought he hacked ,proxy 2 gate on red city without scouting, looking into my base all the time, dodging my widow mines later. | ||
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gillon
Sweden1578 Posts
On June 22 2013 06:08 TylerThaCreator wrote: I'm starting to get fucking sick of laddering. Also encountering maphackers every 2-3 days and it's just a complete ruining of my ladder experience. Just hit ANOTHER GM MAPHACKER. You know it's fucking bad when Blilzzard isn't even dealing with the maphackers who get into their "prestigious" gm which qualifies people for fucking tournaments and shit. Give me a break! Name: [ExG] GEODUDE Server: NA Race: Random Rank: 89 Grandmaster Description: Spawns as Zerg on Red City, 6 pools directly to my main without any scout. Rallies his overlord and lings to my base (rather than splitting the overlord and lings to separate directions). Sends reinforcement lings to there too before lings even arrive at my main. http://drop.sc/345298 the sad thing is that these guys are on teams and shit too. Makes me sick. I've actually played other people from this team too and they seemed legit... Geodude is the loogicc kid, has been hacking for years now, on so many accounts that I've lost track. He used to play on EU, though. | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
On June 22 2013 06:27 jyuj wrote: No one ever gets banned. Here is why. The problem is the hack rate is actually something insane, more than 60%. If they start to ban the cheaters Blizzard is going to lose their player base. Blizzard still has 1 more expansion to sell, and has Millions/Billions tied up in contracts with companies who want to run tournaments and streaming services. If they did enforce no hacking it would be like the day of darkness in RuneScape They claim to not tolerate players who hack, but what do you do with the player who only hacked like less than 10 games? Or was "Just trying them out" ? Blizzard really wants another 60$-35$ from all those players =\ Another factor is that it is almost impossible to stop all the hackers, so web sites like TL.net have deals with Blizzard which says they will stifle all talk about demanding results from Blizzard about hackers. This insures that the issue is swept under the rug. Remember it is also in TL.net best interest to not let the truth about hack rates get out because if people stop playing the main game this site is covering, hits go down which in turn means $ goes down. P.S. at least like 5 threads have been started about asking Blizzard for detailed information about hack rates, what they are doing to combat hacking and such. I believe the population does not need more, say nothing about it while saying some vague sentence. All of the threads have been closed for poor reasons, because once again it is not in TL.net best interest to have a thread like that. I bet 60% of the players arent even aware there are hax for this game. I bet 60% of them dont even know about God (Flash). | ||
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jyuj
Australia103 Posts
He is pulling all of that out of his ass lmao.[/QUOTE] Which part is out of my ass? The part about how at least 5 threads have been closed on TL.net about asking Blizzard for information on what they are doing to stop hackers? These threads have been started very politely with respectful requests of players wanting to know more, yet they keep getting closed. The part about the % of hackers? If you see one or two ants, chances are there are 1,000's. Or better yet, what do you have to say about the % of hackers there are. Why don't you give the community what you think the % is! THERE IS A GREATER POINT HERE! No one cares what you OR WHAT I, have to say. We both ONLY CARE WHAT BLIZZARD has to say, so why the &*^% don't they start talking? | ||
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codonbyte
United States840 Posts
On June 22 2013 22:37 PassiveAce wrote: He is pulling all of that out of his ass lmao. Yeah. Pretty sure that's all one big conspiracy theory. The real reason that people can go for awhile without getting banned is because of Blizzard's policy of banning in waves. Basically, when Blizzard determines that someone is hacking, they don't ban them right away; instead, the account gets put on a "shit list". Every so often, Blizzard will ban everyone on the shit list. We'll call the period between ban waves T. The reason Blizzard does this is because it prevents hackers from being able to accurately report to their customers exactly when their hacks are detected. If Blizzard banned everyone instantly, then hack vendors could have people working for them who use the hacks every day to test whether it's been detected, and they could say to their customers "Just check our website every day, and you'll instantly know whether our hack has been detected or not and whether it's safe to hack". That would give customers more confidence and trust in the hackers, and would make it easier for more people to evade getting banned whenever Blizzard was able to detect a hack (since after a couple people got banned, everyone else would know about it instantly and stop using the hack). This reasoning on Blizzard's part is perfectly valid, and does have definite advantages. However, there are also some problems with it. I recall T being about 6 months back in WoL, and I assume it will be about the same in HotS (obviously Blizzard is secretive about these policies, but I remember the ban waves in WoL being about 6 months apart. Someone correct me if I'm wrong about this). If T = 6 months, that means that someone who buys the game can potentially hack for 6 months without getting banned. When a hacker gets caught, the only consequences are that they lose their current ladder ranking, and they have to buy a new copy of the game, which comes to $60 (WoL is $20 and HotS is $40, I believe). This means that for a hacker, SC2 becomes a monthly service, similar to cell-phone service, internet service, or a subscription to a pornography website. In other words, SC2 is a pay service that costs $60/T for hackers. If T is about 6 months (or hell, even 3 months) then paying $60/T doesn't sound like enough of a punishment to me. So there you have it: Blizzard is not engaging in any big conspiracy to allow hackers to roam around freely, they just have a policy for dealing with hackers that has clear-cut pros and cons, like any policy would. The pros are that nobody can hack and "feel safe" about it, since the hackers won't be able to warn them that the hack has been detected until Blizzard does a ban wave, at which point it will be too late. The cons are that even after someone is found to be hacking, we'll still have to put up with them on the ladder until blizzard does a ban wave, and then some of these people are just going to go out and buy another copy of SC2 and go right back to hacking. | ||
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Cokefreak
Finland8096 Posts
On June 23 2013 01:35 jyuj wrote: Which part is out of my ass? The part about how at least 5 threads have been closed on TL.net about asking Blizzard for information on what they are doing to stop hackers? These threads have been started very politely with respectful requests of players wanting to know more, yet they keep getting closed. The part about the % of hackers? If you see one or two ants, chances are there are 1,000's. Or better yet, what do you have to say about the % of hackers there are. Why don't you give the community what you think the % is! THERE IS A GREATER POINT HERE! No one cares what you OR WHAT I, have to say. We both ONLY CARE WHAT BLIZZARD has to say, so why the &*^% don't they start talking? Wow, you're so smart. | ||
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codonbyte
United States840 Posts
Which part is out of my ass? [/QUOTE The part about how at least 5 threads have been closed on TL.net about asking Blizzard for information on what they are doing to stop hackers? These threads have been started very politely with respectful requests of players wanting to know more, yet they keep getting closed. The part about the % of hackers? If you see one or two ants, chances are there are 1,000's. Or better yet, what do you have to say about the % of hackers there are. Why don't you give the community what you think the % is! THERE IS A GREATER POINT HERE! No one cares what you OR WHAT I, have to say. We both ONLY CARE WHAT BLIZZARD has to say, so why the &*^% don't they start talking? Threads get closed on TL if the moderators feel that the thread isn't good. TL has very high quality standards. They don't want a bunch of threads about basically the same topic, or threads with a poorly-written OP. TL already has a very good thread about hacking: this one. They don't need five more threads talking about Blizzard's banning policy. Also, LOL at the idea of TL secretly supporting hackers. Edit: fixed bad BBcode. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On June 23 2013 01:35 jyuj wrote: Which part is out of my ass? The part about how at least 5 threads have been closed on TL.net about asking Blizzard for information on what they are doing to stop hackers? These threads have been started very politely with respectful requests of players wanting to know more, yet they keep getting closed. The part about the % of hackers? If you see one or two ants, chances are there are 1,000's. Or better yet, what do you have to say about the % of hackers there are. Why don't you give the community what you think the % is! THERE IS A GREATER POINT HERE! No one cares what you OR WHAT I, have to say. We both ONLY CARE WHAT BLIZZARD has to say, so why the &*^% don't they start talking? lol | ||
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oOOoOphidian
United States1402 Posts
On June 22 2013 23:46 coldscars wrote: hacker name : CheeseKing server : NA League : High Master http://drop.sc/345401 Really obvious maphacker, ive played him before and never thought he hacked ,proxy 2 gate on red city without scouting, looking into my base all the time, dodging my widow mines later. Yeah, building gates right by your base without even checking to see if that's your base first. Very different hotkeys from the grandmaster with the same name, though. | ||
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Glorfindel!
Sweden1815 Posts
Battlenet Profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4011493/1/llllllllllll/ Replay: http://drop.sc/345437 League: Master I was winning the game extremly hard. It started to lag a little and then it just ended. Past match says "Match Results do not agree" and it showed as a loss for me (but I did not lose points). The guy has 77 games played, 13 wins, 8 losses... | ||
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NrG.NeverExpo
Canada2114 Posts
On June 22 2013 18:23 mewbert wrote: Hacker name : Kritter Server : NA League : GM Description : blind countered my build without scouting, never took the towers, knew exactly where my banshees were coming from and the first time he moved his army the whole game, it was in the direction of mine http://drop.sc/345371 Can confirm 100% this guy hacks, or some1 hacks on his account. This is the fake NrG team that took our tag, and someone from that fake team contacted me about this kritter guy. He has people level his account for him so either they hack or he does. I have witness a replay where he drops mules without actually having vision of minerals as well, so maybe zoom hack or something TT. | ||
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LingBlingBling
United States353 Posts
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crbox
Canada1181 Posts
On June 23 2013 07:20 LingBlingBling wrote: is this thread modded anymore? I'm reading more spam/people going nuts then hack reports. Also a lot of people just naming random people they lose to, without providing any proof or replays. Forgot how to report threads on TL. Click on "Report" above the post | ||
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Theberlinwall
Canada57 Posts
Mid Masters name: SilentNight http://drop.sc/345453 I am the terran barcode I go for gasless expo, he also goes for a really fast expo. He blindly Builds three zealots when i try and put some pressure on him, keep in mind he has not scouted at all, and will not for the rest of the game. At 14:08 he moves a zealot from his nat, and warps one in before he sees the drop at his main. He has no observers and does not build one the entire game 16:10- 1635, as hes chasing my army and i load into medivacs and escape. He warps templar in his main as a response. the sketchy part is when he moves the templar from one side of his base to the other to intercept the drop. He does not know exactly where the drop will land, but makes the correct move before he has any information. watch his vision. Also id like to point out, that in the current meta widow mine drops are really popular, he has no detection the entire game, nor does he scout. had i gone widow mine drops he just would have instantly lost. | ||
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Graphix
United States208 Posts
Masters Terrran Name:Solaris http://drop.sc/345456 3:30 sends marines to kill an overloard before it comes into his vision, Same at 5:20 540 sends small marines force to kill scouting zergling then goes bakc ot his base 8:00 blindly makes 2 tanks and 2 bunkers and walls his natural against roach all in Throughout the game constantly looking at my bases through the fog of war | ||
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