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luminosity_
Profile Joined September 2003
Canada378 Posts
November 24 2003 08:15 GMT
#41
Veg that game was Nada vs iloveoov... and yes, it was art :D


MXPX... u don't think 3 fac vults can defend 4 gol drop? have u ever tried 3 fac vults then? probably not. With vult speed, u can be at his base, spot the dropship and still boot it back to your base in time to pwn.
Moth
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden468 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-11-24 09:02:10
November 24 2003 09:01 GMT
#42
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Its all about the Benjamins
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
November 24 2003 09:04 GMT
#43
On November 22 2003 20:27 HovZ wrote:
basically on maps with no cliff(gamea, nos, plains etc.), u have to vulture. on these types of maps playing tvt no longer invovles strategy. because no matter what u scout u should always go vulture

Wrong.
VERY wrong.
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
November 24 2003 09:11 GMT
#44
If you're talking about No Cliff maps then Dahlia and Kohral would be perfect examples ,but vulcs are very easily countered there.On Martian Cross is a little harder , but still its not the only strat you can play.Its maybe the safest though.

(Got 2 games TvT vs vulcs on WCG MC vs MTY and KC vs some guy I don't remember )
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
November 24 2003 11:25 GMT
#45
everyone i just want u to remember when reading beast's posts keep in mind he has no idea what hes talking about.
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
November 24 2003 11:27 GMT
#46
On November 24 2003 17:04 snOw wrote:
WHY DON'T WE JUST ALL GO FAST CLOAK WRAITHS!?!??! EH EH? 1-2 vults and a tank can hold off an insane amount of vults with good micro (considering you don't let them up the ramp). And wraiths are very good for harass. I have always gone wraith vs a fast vult and I've had a very good win ratio, like 9/10 I win because they take longer to build a bunch of turrets and get scan to expo than I take to kill their mines and build my sexpo


no wraiths dont beat mines on maps with no cliff. the terran can expo immediatly after his makes his vults and just put up a turret at each cc while he gets gols, u cant expo till u clear 30 mines, something that takes a while with 1 factory units. u will be forced to push out of ur base with turrets, and that gives ur enemy all the time he needs to expo and contain you. then with ur gosu 1 fac u cant break out because he has 2 facs. and u cant drop because no cliffs. understand?
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
SS
Profile Joined May 2003
United States63 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-11-24 11:44:04
November 24 2003 11:39 GMT
#47
Vultures as with any unit imo are great if used correctly .

I have used vultures in mid and late game in small numbers .. Mining my bases for a little added Drop deturant in key areas.. The cooldown time of units coming out of a drop ship is just enough to allow mines to pop them. T ussually scans the area before dropping sees a buttload of mines and decides on something a bit less risky.

I find that I feel a bit safer in leaving fewer units behind for defense when I have a few mines scattered in key areas. ( mainly the places I would drop if I were him )
I do not ussually rush mine tech though as I would rather spend the gas on tanks and Mine containment is pointless When Vultures kill mines the moment they pop up .. Lure mines with a tank / goliath / marine And the vultures kill them quite effectively .

On a side note
It's rather funny to Vult / port vs Tank Vulture containment players .

Using 1-2 wraiths to run his butt off and Secure your expansion. And ussually you have a good 1 - 1 1/2 Minutes to Harrass him with them before he spams turets or gets enough goliths to slap you away . During whitch time you can ussually safely take your expansion and get a major Eco Advantage over him of at least 45 seconds to a minute.

Timing ^^

Edit: And before the bashings Ensue I never claimed to be pro Just like to play the game
I got da soup for ya!
Grotfang
Profile Joined May 2003
Belgium490 Posts
November 24 2003 11:47 GMT
#48
thanks for the pointers hovz now i have something to start with for gaema gowon//nostalgia tvt

also hovz, i heard that pro's sometimes sacrifice SCV production to increase the amount of vultures they can make ~ what's the deal with that? when is it good?
No plz only LT.. no not TvT.. no.. ok cancel?
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
November 24 2003 12:03 GMT
#49
ya they do, but i dont, cuz the benefit soon gets outweighed by the sacrafice
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
November 24 2003 12:27 GMT
#50
So Hovz you know what u're talking about.Cool.
Now learn to play.
z7-RaiN
Profile Joined January 2003
United States522 Posts
November 24 2003 12:41 GMT
#51
for tvt tips, refer to Un)SasimiDidi
PokerStars.com, where dreams come true
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
November 24 2003 12:43 GMT
#52
and for pvp tips refer to me
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
FrinkX
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States958 Posts
November 24 2003 13:01 GMT
#53
Just go tanks and goliaths to mass drop and control

Easy ass shit.
FrinkX
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States958 Posts
November 24 2003 13:01 GMT
#54
And also everything HovZ said is correct, so listen to him
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
November 24 2003 13:06 GMT
#55
For anyone reading HovZ's posts, remember that he's an idiot who is not good at BW.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
StoneR
Profile Joined April 2003
Spain1252 Posts
November 24 2003 13:23 GMT
#56
On November 24 2003 22:06 Twisted wrote:
For anyone reading HovZ's posts, remember that he's an idiot who is not good at BW.


wahaha hey twisted look @ my quote :DD
SS
Profile Joined May 2003
United States63 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-11-24 14:48:26
November 24 2003 14:47 GMT
#57
What's with the Bashing of Hovz ?

I got da soup for ya!
Payt
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada582 Posts
November 24 2003 16:43 GMT
#58
On November 24 2003 23:47 SS wrote:
What's with the Bashing of Hovz ?



He provides some pretty easy opportunities. Just look at Stoner's sig!
FrinkX
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States958 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-11-24 17:12:14
November 24 2003 17:11 GMT
#59
Yet those bashing him also suck.

So what's the point? You don't look cool =(
DeMoNiC
Profile Joined May 2003
United States294 Posts
November 24 2003 18:14 GMT
#60
hmm liquibet hovz vs suker?? tight matchup =o
How many Dragonball Z Characters does it take to screw a light bulb? one, but it takes 5 episodes.
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