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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
I think Cyber_Cheese is scum. I think he needs to hang today because he's one of only a few people that I'm even considering are scum at this point. So my vote is on him. But your vote is yours to do with what you wish. If you disagree that C_C is scum, then I don't WANT your vote. At any rate, I think you should go read C_C's filter in L. I understand the resistance to meta, but you really should at least take a look. It's like night and day. | ||
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froggynoddy
United Kingdom452 Posts
However I feel like you are misunderstanding me, nothing I have said criticises your case on C_C, nothing I have criticised you on refers to your read on him. Surely I can agree with you on C_C but disagree with some of your other decisions? Again I'm confused at your answer, I was not criticising your post count... If anything I was criticising others and myself for not contributing enough. I feel like either I'm not being clear (which is very possible), | ||
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froggynoddy
United Kingdom452 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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EchelonTee
United States5254 Posts
I'm on board with C_C lynch; he's had ample time to respond to stuff and he has never rly adequately addressed this wombo combo post, which I largely agree with. ##Vote: Cyber_Cheese Other than that, cccalf is the only who was not voting besides me. that's no good brody, whether inentionally or nonintentionally that level of super lurking is rly scummy. Don't like gonzaw. VE dyou actually think I'm scum or are you just being teh jokr? you and BH are flopping all over the palce on your opinions. sometimes I'm scum, sometimes you guys fling mud at each other, sometimes you guys are CT buddies (CS image). And I just noticed that when you voted for me here you spelled my name wrong. so.... wat? | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5254 Posts
just in case ##Vote Cyber_Cheese I'll be back right before deadline most likely. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On March 29 2012 02:18 froggynoddy wrote: @gonzaw Re your case against blue: he's sheeping... that seems to be basically all you are saying. Day 1 has so little info to work with that it's normal to agree what's been said before. That said in Werewolves II he was much more aggressive early game. But I don't like relying on meta as am such a new player... seems a flimsy way of going about hunting scum. He is sheeping indeed, but a lot of other players did it as well (Zentor, zelblade, etc). I'm talking about his behaviour. His behaviour is not like Purgatory at all, not even like Normal Mini Mafia I (the most recent game he was town I think, or at least that I remember). His play and behaviour is just like Aperture mafia, and I already explained why. This is what made me think he was scum in Aperture, and is what makes me think he's scum now. I wasn't wrong then, I am not wrong now. I think my reasoning is as follows, C_C's flip will, at this point in time give us the most information: 1. he flips scum --> gonzaw's likelihood of being scum increases 2. he flips town --> VE and Blue likelihood of being scum increases I don't like this type of reasoning at all. Zelblade mentioned it as well. If C_C flipped scum, what would it tell you about me? If I'm town I don't know shit about C_C's alignment, so C_C can flip town or scum and it will still mean I'm town. So if C_C were to flip scum, why would that mean I'm not town as well? And if C_C flips town? Does that mean I'm not scum either? This type of reasoning is what justifies senseless bandwagons on townies and clouds everybody's judgement. If you are trying to find connections between players then fine, but the most important thing is to pinpoint individuals as scum, and after other players flip determine his interactions with them, not before. Anyways, this is pointless, I can't believe everybody is just assuming Bluelightz is town with almost no reason at all. Killing C_C isn't bad either, once he was called out he hasn't contributed anything at all, and when he did he did so poorly. I don't think he's town so I'm willing to lynch him to avoid NL. I'm going to uni in a few minutes, and won't be back until a few hours after the lynch, so I'll change my vote now. Still people, I'm not convinced by you guy's defense on Blue, I suggest you check him out again. I still want responses from ET/sloosh/Zentor/BH/etc. ##Unvote: Bluelightz ##Vote: Cyber_Cheese | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
@ET: Please respond to my previous post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=322686¤tpage=21#407 Also, what do you think about Blue ET? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
C_C, it looks like you have about an hour and a half to live. It's fairly unlikely that I (or anyone else) can stop this wagon now. That being said, there's still things you can do. When you flip, if you're town, you'll be confirmed town, and you already know how you're going to flip. If you're town, you should prepare a clear, concise, and well-argued post of your reads. You know just as much as we're going to know for the next 24 hours, and this will be a useful statement by a confirmed (if dead) townie. If you are gonna go out D1 as a townie, you must be like the esteemed artist Lil Wayne and die with your finger on the trigger. Do it for the town. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
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slOosh
3291 Posts
Sorry for the delayed response - with the CC activity and BH / VE scuffle & your unique posting style it was hard to read it all. I gotta say, I'm leaning town on gonzaw. As I understand, the base of the arguments against him boil down to 1 - Advice not to claim nationality but not addressing CC 2 - Weird posting style 3 - Not scumhunting / sharing scum reads 1 - I feel like he has adequately defended the first point many times over. 2 - This ... is just his style. I don't like it either but that is personal preference, not an indication of alignment. 3 - People are picking on him for 1&2 so understandably most of his energies would be devoted to clearing his name. I think it is clear that the questions he asked were to gain information, and he did produce the case on Bluelightz. He is making sense in general and putting effort into the game (I'd like to see more scumhunting but its totally understandable when you have like 5 people on your case). Gonzaw, out of the people who have called you out, who do you think is most suspicious? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
C_C is NOT as new as JW. C_C should know better than to play the way he is. Jdub is still learning what is and isn't suspicious, what is and isn't acceptable and what is and isn't important. C_C knows these things - he was in L, a game where pure scumhunters took down almost an entire scumteam. | ||
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slOosh
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