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BluePabs
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 10:53:01
January 03 2011 10:51 GMT
#301
A public apology isn't a real apology?

Much the same way as Tasteless talking about the situation on a public broadcast doesn't make it a situation that the public is aware of?

good logic...
Whiladan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
January 03 2011 10:52 GMT
#302
This is over. Anyone still trying to make an issue of or provide "insight" into the situation is grasping at straws.
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
January 03 2011 10:55 GMT
#303
On January 03 2011 19:52 Whiladan wrote:
This is over. Anyone still trying to make an issue of or provide "insight" into the situation is grasping at straws.


Exactly, those involved have dealt with it, further discussion is pointless.
TSoM1959
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10 Posts
January 03 2011 10:55 GMT
#304
I'm pretty sure it was going to be a PR thing after Tasteless mentioned it regardless, not really fair to put that on the guy. And I'm pretty sure Tasteless wasn't going to walk away with any less fans one way or the other. He acknowledged an apology I feel he didn't have to, but I don't like him any less for it.
SuperNothing
Profile Joined September 2010
United States76 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 10:56:36
January 03 2011 10:55 GMT
#305
@BluePabs

I think you are not completely understanding the details. Tasteless didn't really offend the guy. He also didn't even give the guys name. It was the OP who brought it into specifics, and like I said, kind of forcing Tasteless to publicly accept the guy's apology. Though, I am sure he would have done it if the guy personally apologized too.

I think apologizing through a forum post is impersonal, and devalues the weight of the apology.
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
January 03 2011 10:59 GMT
#306
On January 03 2011 19:36 SuperNothing wrote:
The point is, if the OP didn't make a public apology, it would be nothing. There was no reason for it, and in doing so, he added a new variable to the issue between him and Tasteless, which is community opinion. If he would have kept the issue to himself, and approached Tasteless in private to apologize, it would have been much more honest and sincere.


It was tasteless who made the thing public. And the guy felt bad and wanted to apologize on the forums. Tasteless decided to answer mention it on-air but he could've also just answered on the forums if he didn't want to.

However, what I think is important here is that they both are probably ok with how the things went in the end. I feel it's you who are making a mountain out of a mole hill. There's no drama here anymore, it's over. Everyone is happy except you.
vlf
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal170 Posts
January 03 2011 11:01 GMT
#307
On January 03 2011 19:18 jayt88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 18:53 SuperNothing wrote:
You guys need to stop being so hyper sensitive.

First of all, Tasteless did nothing wrong. He told a story about some guy openly offending a friend and a person that people are fans of in the community. Note, the most important thing here is, he DID NOT give this guys name or screen name. The guy was completely anonymous. If he did call the guy out directly, then I would think that was pretty low, but he didn't.

The only reason we know who this guy is, is because he, HIMSELF, said it was. Don't publicly apologize. No one knew it was you. You don't need to apologize to us. You just come off as a drama queen. Apologize to Tasteless and John in private. That is a real apology.

Also, no offense, but to all the people who are giving this guy props for saying he was sorry, I don't understand you. You don't get points for doing something you are supposed to do. Especially if you decide to give an attention seeking, long winded one over two forums.

You say that you were really nervous and what you said wasn't exactly what you meant. You sound socially awkward and not comfortable in front of people in high stress situations. You would probably be pretty bad at John's job.

Next time, I would recommend you go through the proper channels to apply for a job, or at least be a bit more polite and tactful.

Don't take any of this as an attack on you, just my opinion.


Well said, definitely agree with you. It was a totally anonymous rant by tasteless, no one would have known who it was other than the guy himself, but since he decided to make a post about it, now everyone knows his online identity.
What tasteless did was just to defend his friend and hope no insensitive people just randomly walks in and says he can do a better job. That randomguy might be able to but it's not for him to decide whether or not he can.


Can you read? he clearly stated that he was using another account just for that post.

Why would anyone comment on something without even bothering to read? Fuck.
çpç
SuperNothing
Profile Joined September 2010
United States76 Posts
January 03 2011 11:02 GMT
#308
Sorry, I made my original point before the issue was at rest. But I think it is important to note, that Tasteless told a story that didn't give the guys identity away, thus still keeping it private. There was no point to make a public apology post, other than to get people to read it.
SuperNothing
Profile Joined September 2010
United States76 Posts
January 03 2011 11:05 GMT
#309
And I actually am done on elaborating my opinion. My OP was quite clear, and quite solid. You can disagree on opinion that is fine, but you guys are kind of being rude, and seem to be incapable of understanding different points of view without attacking people.
Trap
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States395 Posts
January 03 2011 11:10 GMT
#310
Moral of the story: to err is human, to forgive is baller.
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Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
January 03 2011 11:11 GMT
#311
my opinion is that tasteless called it out right... if someone came to me face to face saying he can do a better job i would just say GTFO bitch
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
JunkkaGom
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)855 Posts
January 03 2011 12:56 GMT
#312
I feel bad for making this guy feel guilty. I was taken aback by the offer but could really tell he meant no harm and was just trying to offer help. He even said he will do it for free. At the moment I admit I was little offended but just said that it's not an easy job as it looks. I think it was very brave of him to tell me that in person. It is unnecessary to feel sorry for doing something you feel is right to do.I apologize on Tasteless's behalf if he made you feel bad. I was not aware he made such statement during casting. It was just a misunderstanding between a faithful friend and an enthusiastic fan.
Workload overwhelming. It is a good day to work
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
January 03 2011 13:02 GMT
#313
On January 03 2011 21:56 JunkkaGom wrote:
I feel bad for making this guy feel guilty. I was taken aback by the offer but could really tell he meant no harm and was just trying to offer help. He even said he will do it for free. At the moment I admit I was little offended but just said that it's not an easy job as it looks. I think it was very brave of him to tell me that in person. It is unnecessary to feel sorry for doing something you feel is right to do.I apologize on Tasteless's behalf if he made you feel bad. I was not aware he made such statement during casting. It was just a misunderstanding between a faithful friend and an enthusiastic fan.


Very well put man, Thanks for commenting.. its easy to just leave this alone.
Ashok
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 13:08:40
January 03 2011 13:08 GMT
#314
On January 03 2011 21:56 JunkkaGom wrote:
I feel bad for making this guy feel guilty. I was taken aback by the offer but could really tell he meant no harm and was just trying to offer help. He even said he will do it for free. At the moment I admit I was little offended but just said that it's not an easy job as it looks. I think it was very brave of him to tell me that in person. It is unnecessary to feel sorry for doing something you feel is right to do.I apologize on Tasteless's behalf if he made you feel bad. I was not aware he made such statement during casting. It was just a misunderstanding between a faithful friend and an enthusiastic fan.


Junkka/John FIGHTING ~~

Really loving the GSL4 translations so far (I assume you are doing the translations of the Korean commentators when they discuss the match-ups).
TheDna
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany577 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 13:27:24
January 03 2011 13:26 GMT
#315
TBH i always hated the none professional translation. John might be awesome as a guy, but he is doing a horrible job at translating and i was so happy when he wasn't there and a different guy was translating..
Imo they shouldn't let John translate no offense or anything.

Might be a bit offtopic, but i always wanted to say that.
-miDnight-
Profile Joined September 2010
Taiwan455 Posts
January 03 2011 14:12 GMT
#316
Wait how did tasteless get his job?
Does anyone know the story?
http://www.facebook.com/midnightsc Chinese caster from TW (go SEn)
Koh
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom111 Posts
January 03 2011 14:29 GMT
#317
On January 03 2011 23:12 miDnight_SC wrote:
Wait how did tasteless get his job?
Does anyone know the story?

It's mentioned in Day 9 Daily 100
KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 14:43:19
January 03 2011 14:42 GMT
#318
Tasteless proving once again that he has no taste in what is socially and professionally acceptable.

Hell even artosis realized that it was FUCKING STUPID to say that on the air >.>...
RIP eSTRO :(
Essentia
Profile Joined July 2010
1150 Posts
January 03 2011 14:43 GMT
#319
On January 03 2011 18:53 SuperNothing wrote:
You guys need to stop being so hyper sensitive.

First of all, Tasteless did nothing wrong. He told a story about some guy openly offending a friend and a person that people are fans of in the community. Note, the most important thing here is, he DID NOT give this guys name or screen name. The guy was completely anonymous. If he did call the guy out directly, then I would think that was pretty low, but he didn't.

The only reason we know who this guy is, is because he, HIMSELF, said it was. Don't publicly apologize. No one knew it was you. You don't need to apologize to us. You just come off as a drama queen. Apologize to Tasteless and John in private. That is a real apology.

Also, no offense, but to all the people who are giving this guy props for saying he was sorry, I don't understand you. You don't get points for doing something you are supposed to do. Especially if you decide to give an attention seeking, long winded one over two forums.

You say that you were really nervous and what you said wasn't exactly what you meant. You sound socially awkward and not comfortable in front of people in high stress situations. You would probably be pretty bad at John's job.

Next time, I would recommend you go through the proper channels to apply for a job, or at least be a bit more polite and tactful.

Don't take any of this as an attack on you, just my opinion.


my thoughts exactly, if he was so embarrassed why wouldnt he stay anonymous. lol it makes no sense to post a big public apology attracting more attention to yourself.
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
January 03 2011 14:48 GMT
#320
On January 03 2011 19:52 Whiladan wrote:
This is over. Anyone still trying to make an issue of or provide "insight" into the situation is grasping at straws.

And just attempting to add drama... Someone should really close this thread and update the OP...
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