EPTHow the hell am i suppose to jungle with the +5% xp so far in utility ?
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
How the hell am i suppose to jungle with the +5% xp so far in utility ? | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On November 12 2011 20:15 Craton wrote: Did you even read the last few pages in this thread? Yes, and it don't give any anwser on " you can't hit 3 on wolves wraith golem anymore" :/ Oh, someone linked a redpost about it. Sorry ._. | ||
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DrKlingmann
Poland356 Posts
On November 12 2011 20:10 Noocta wrote: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/masteries-season-two How the hell am i suppose to jungle with the +5% xp so far in utility ? They said they will buff xp gain from jungle monsters. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On November 12 2011 20:05 -Zoda- wrote: Why ? If you don't harass as support, what can you do ? :X CV and heal ? Yeah, particularly enjoyable... That's exactly what the VAST majority of players thinks currently. I recently got flamed while zoning our enemies as Q-max Sona because I didn't max W. Many ranged ADs don't even consider buying potions when they have someone with a heal in lane. They just take heavy damage and flame the support for not keeping up with that amount of damage. | ||
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shinarit
Hungary900 Posts
On November 12 2011 20:10 javy925 wrote: they better fucking refund all the IP wasted on dodge runes since they plan on phasing it out completely from the game. That's ~7.3k IP right there just for yellows Well, they said earlier they wanted to kill everything that depends on chance... but than, Jax and Nidalee depend on dodge, and many others depend on crits, so i dont know. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On November 12 2011 20:29 shinarit wrote: Well, they said earlier they wanted to kill everything that depends on chance... but than, Jax and Nidalee depend on dodge, and many others depend on crits, so i dont know. Nidalee don't have any dodge bonus in catform. Only jax still benefit from dodge at that level. | ||
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shinarit
Hungary900 Posts
On November 12 2011 20:26 spinesheath wrote: That's exactly what the VAST majority of players thinks currently. I recently got flamed while zoning our enemies as Q-max Sona because I didn't max W. Many ranged ADs don't even consider buying potions when they have someone with a heal in lane. They just take heavy damage and flame the support for not keeping up with that amount of damage. You have to pick the support for the carry. For example to Ashe i always pick Soraka, because she needs mana and she is easily harassed, so needs the heal and armor/mres buff. You cant complain about that. Sona is much more harass based support, good for Cait for example. And Janna with Trist is just awesome, that flat AD from shield is a beast with Trist's as boost. I never got flamed for my support choice or for zoning out people, actually its hilarious when you zone out ad+support while your ad stays behind. | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + In reality you just pick the only support you can play since 99% of people are terrible at the support that would be best for a given lane + team. | ||
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shinarit
Hungary900 Posts
On November 12 2011 20:37 Craton wrote: No. You pick the support for both the lane and the team. It's very short-sighted to pick for just one or the other. In high Elo maybe. In more general, every support is beneficial for any team, as the general functionality of warding and CVing and some utility is given. Its hard to pick bad support char, it may be not optimal, but whatever. But picking for the lane is important as you should at least keep up with the other team, or maybe even win the lane. The bigger the teamfight, the less impact the support character directly has (note: DIRECTLY. im not talking about map awareness and other stuff), so the less responsibility in pick. First you pick for your lane, and if you still have more options, you pick the better for the team comp. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On November 12 2011 20:26 spinesheath wrote: That's exactly what the VAST majority of players thinks currently. I recently got flamed while zoning our enemies as Q-max Sona because I didn't max W. Many ranged ADs don't even consider buying potions when they have someone with a heal in lane. They just take heavy damage and flame the support for not keeping up with that amount of damage. Heh, I almost always rape my lane as sona because I just max Q and destroy them. My laners seem suprised I'm agressive but I just assumed its standard. I always felt like sona was OP because of how much damage q+power chord does throughout the game. Just being an aura bot she doesn't feel OP. I don't know what elo you're at on US but usually when we do bad in lane the AD carry is just doing something stupid when I'm warding and doesn't have a coherent response to why it's my fault. They shouldn't take heavy damage because I'm a constant harass threat that my AD would have to go full retard to take damage and not respond while I burst them for like 300. EDIT OMFG NEW MASTERIES YESSS THE OLD ONES WERE FUCKING AWFUL AND IM IN THEORYCRAFT HEAVEN RIGHT NOW. OMFFFF AT THE CDR MASTERY IN DEFENSE TREE HELLO NASUS AND UDYR YES 10% FREE CDR NOM NOM NOM EDIT2: NIMBLENESS GONE FFF OUR RAGE IS BEYOND YOUR CONTROL I guess initator even better though. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On November 12 2011 20:31 Noocta wrote: Nidalee don't have any dodge bonus in catform. Only jax still benefit from dodge at that level. Udyr's passive gives him dodge as well | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
On November 12 2011 21:19 Craton wrote: I'm wondering roughly how much of the damage a tank takes comes from aoe sources in a team fight. No clue, but for that mastery to focus solely on aoe seems a bit weird. On top of that it is 3% doesn't make it that appealing to me. I really like Juggernaut, 10% more reduction along with merc treads makes playing Udyr even more fun. Maybe go 0/21/9 on him after the patch. The new masteries also allow for people below level 30 to jungle easier by going down the defensive tree. | ||
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
1) Can play AP Carries with 21/x/x for loads of dmg. 2) Initiator + Juggernaut + Swiftness on Singed will be fun. 3) No SoS anymore makes me sad. 4) No dodge masteries... good that I've bought those dodge runes... 5) Expanded Mind now gives bonus Energy, quite nice for my Kennen and Shen. 6) 20% more buff time now only 1 skillpoint. 7) otherwise the utility kinda sucks for non supports, imo. | ||
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On November 12 2011 19:43 wei2coolman wrote: I like the minor change to Kat, should be awesome, considering I just got her. The Sona change was pretty necessary imo. Her poke is so strong early game, it's probably the best from level 1-6. (Also, try out AD-Sona (w/ triforce) it's pretty fun). Hmm, no nerf to Talon or Akali? so silly, they need to hurry up and find a fix. Hopefully after tournaments are done, they'll start putting more nerf/buffs on characters. Between Akali and Talon (who got slightly adjusted last patch by the way), I think it really should be Akali getting toned down a bit. But then again, she is sort of high risk high reward - counter pick her ass and see her doing literally nothing later in the game. Concerning Kat, I really don't know what they were thinking. If Shunpo had a minor silence on it, that change would be awesome for the laning phase, considering you could BB->Shunpo and run before they can trade with you. That being said, Kat is already on of the weakest laners in the game and, in my opinion, NEEDS to W-E instead of W-Q in order to trade effectively, if she can trade at all. Later in the game, you will almost always want to use W for your E, simply because there's no reason not to. If there is a Soraka on the enemy team, you just straight up kill her and if she wastes her heal on herself, well, there you go, their AD carry is helpless for the next 18 seconds, rendering the option of W-Q almost always a lot weaker than W-E. It's nice for positioning sometimes I guess, but if they decide tweaking Kat, why in such a non-mattering fashion? Also: Sion apparently is a strong late game champion. There's just no way to stop him from bursting your team. Real Morello? | ||
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wintergt
Belgium1335 Posts
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
On November 12 2011 21:41 Shiv. wrote: Between Akali and Talon (who got slightly adjusted last patch by the way), I think it really should be Akali getting toned down a bit. But then again, she is sort of high risk high reward - counter pick her ass and see her doing literally nothing later in the game. Concerning Kat, I really don't know what they were thinking. If Shunpo had a minor silence on it, that change would be awesome for the laning phase, considering you could BB->Shunpo and run before they can trade with you. That being said, Kat is already on of the weakest laners in the game and, in my opinion, NEEDS to W-E instead of W-Q in order to trade effectively, if she can trade at all. Later in the game, you will almost always want to use W for your E, simply because there's no reason not to. If there is a Soraka on the enemy team, you just straight up kill her and if she wastes her heal on herself, well, there you go, their AD carry is helpless for the next 18 seconds. It's nice for positioning sometimes I guess, but if they decide tweaking Kat, why in such a non-mattering fashion? Also: Sion apparently is a strong late game champion. There's just no way to stop him from bursting your team. Real Morello? When I heard this I facepalmed so much. You won't see an Akali nerf anytime soon btw, Riot has said she doesnt need nerfing thus the reasoning why shes not getting any. Its gonna take a while for me to get used to these weird mastery icons. | ||
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