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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.

- Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 09:07:19
November 12 2011 09:06 GMT
#3061
On November 12 2011 17:59 Craton wrote:
Time to flail around looking retarded for awhile testing out the new masteries.

I can't see Mercenary ever being worth getting.

It's hilarious that they're nerfing Sona. Does not need to be touched.

Mercenary doesn't sound as bad as Sage IMO (though sage is only 1 point), though sage may be hilarious for lvl 1 fights
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 09:10:31
November 12 2011 09:08 GMT
#3062
Is there anything you could meaningfully do with Wealth? Seems like you'd just get an extra pot out of it. I mean, Doran's +1 pot isn't bad, but idk.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 12 2011 09:11 GMT
#3063
On November 12 2011 18:08 Craton wrote:
Is there anything you could meaningfully do with Wealth? Seems like you'd just get an extra pot out of it. I mean, Doran's +1 pot isn't bad, but idk.

You could start Regrowth + 1 Ward as a support, making regrowth a slightly more viable starting item..
3.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 12 2011 09:22 GMT
#3064
On November 12 2011 18:08 Craton wrote:
Is there anything you could meaningfully do with Wealth? Seems like you'd just get an extra pot out of it. I mean, Doran's +1 pot isn't bad, but idk.

Even if you could, I think the slightly better item start is outweighed by the fact that you spend 6 mastery points for pretty minimally useful masteries.
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tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 09:41:06
November 12 2011 09:39 GMT
#3065
with wealth you can start vamp scepter + pots on junglers lol
edit: also. i can already see the master yi going with demolitionist and siege commander
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
November 12 2011 10:09 GMT
#3066
BTW what felt stupid in this patch preview was that Riot once again started to use the "less passive game" argument (they said that nerfing CV is going to allow for more ganks and less passive gameplay, too bad if it will allow for more ganks then laning will be more passive because the lanes that are getting ganked are usually the lanes that play aggressively...)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 10:14:36
November 12 2011 10:13 GMT
#3067
On November 12 2011 19:09 Kaniol wrote:
BTW what felt stupid in this patch preview was that Riot once again started to use the "less passive game" argument (they said that nerfing CV is going to allow for more ganks and less passive gameplay, too bad if it will allow for more ganks then laning will be more passive because the lanes that are getting ganked are usually the lanes that play aggressively...)

It's been said before, Riot just uses the ambiguity of the term "passive gameplay" to do whatever the hell they want. Strong jungle creates passive lane play. Safe lanes creates passive jungle play. Whichever way they want to change things, they can always say "PASSIVE GAMEPLAY".
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shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
November 12 2011 10:19 GMT
#3068
Man, this is good for supports. I think maybe you will put more than 21 points into utility from now on. But why Sona nerf?
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
November 12 2011 10:22 GMT
#3069
I get one game from 1600, and then I tilt. How do you guys deal with tilt? Assuming you can't take a break and are mid game.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
entko-
Profile Joined March 2010
United States34 Posts
November 12 2011 10:26 GMT
#3070
I give myself a 3 game losing spree before I take a break. Anymore than 3 and that streak turns into a 7~ game losing streak.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
November 12 2011 10:27 GMT
#3071
sona nerf lol ok
GANDHISAUCE
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
November 12 2011 10:28 GMT
#3072
On November 12 2011 19:22 Cixah wrote:
I get one game from 1600, and then I tilt. How do you guys deal with tilt? Assuming you can't take a break and are mid game.

Don't tilt?

If you're carrying over drama between games then you shouldn't be playing games back to back.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 12 2011 10:31 GMT
#3073
I laughed when they said Sona stood out as the best support. She's definitely good, but I boggled that they thought she stood out more than Alistar.

I also thought it this was humorous:

"This is a tournament patch, we don't want to blindside our players."
2 minutes later.
"We've fully revamped masteries."
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 12 2011 10:31 GMT
#3074
On November 12 2011 19:22 Cixah wrote:
I get one game from 1600, and then I tilt. How do you guys deal with tilt? Assuming you can't take a break and are mid game.


Always play with a drink of water nearby. After whatever makes you tilt(probably involves death, if not find a safe spot for a few seconds) take a nice big drink, deep breath, and type something calmly to teammates. Make your positive statement ambiguous so it doesn't sound like you're assigning blame, like "they can make mistakes too guys, stay calm and play well game is still winnable."
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 12 2011 10:43 GMT
#3075
I like the minor change to Kat, should be awesome, considering I just got her. The Sona change was pretty necessary imo. Her poke is so strong early game, it's probably the best from level 1-6. (Also, try out AD-Sona (w/ triforce) it's pretty fun).

Hmm, no nerf to Talon or Akali? so silly, they need to hurry up and find a fix. Hopefully after tournaments are done, they'll start putting more nerf/buffs on characters.
liftlift > tsm
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
November 12 2011 10:43 GMT
#3076
i thought u were gonna say drink so much water that you have to pee after every game and thus can't tilt as hard
twitch.tv/cratonz
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 12 2011 10:43 GMT
#3077
As far as I can tell, Sona is getting nerfed because EU has just started to discover harrassment as support, and Sona has been the support that was used to promote it.
Pure "metagame" fix imo.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
November 12 2011 11:05 GMT
#3078
On November 12 2011 19:43 spinesheath wrote:
As far as I can tell, Sona is getting nerfed because EU has just started to discover harrassment as support, and Sona has been the support that was used to promote it.
Pure "metagame" fix imo.

Why ?
If you don't harass as support, what can you do ? :X CV and heal ? Yeah, particularly enjoyable...
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 12 2011 11:05 GMT
#3079
On November 12 2011 19:43 Craton wrote:
i thought u were gonna say drink so much water that you have to pee after every game and thus can't tilt as hard


I mean, I do end up having to pee a lot cause I drink a ton of water, but it's not some preplan to reduce tilt between games.

The other method is to kind of stay in a state of rage but just get quiet and focus on your play and your play only. Obviously you still see other people and what they do but you just don't care what they are doing right/wrong. But I stopped doing that because I was still getting 'mad' at a game, which is silly outside of anything but a truly competitive environment. Shake used to joke about my silent mode though, cause I'd stop talking on skype for a long period of time, which is a huge contrast because I'm a very chatty player from my fps days(others who played them a lot will get it, just a ton of stuff to communicate).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 11:10:17
November 12 2011 11:10 GMT
#3080
they better fucking refund all the IP wasted on dodge runes since they plan on phasing it out completely from the game. That's ~7.3k IP right there just for yellows
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
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