Love all the maps excluding Crap station. Sigh, i guess I better un-veto it. Honestly, the only time i managed to win on the map was a few times with lucky void ray rushes.

ccHaZaRd

Canada1024 Posts

February 09 2011 21:57 GMT

#142

scrap station and tal darim altar should be removed and you should have a super solid and balanced map pool, and i have played on both iccup/gsl maps and the gsl maps are much better.

DerekJCEX

United States64 Posts

February 09 2011 21:58 GMT

#143

Awesome news! I would get rid of Scrap and Crossfire. It would pain me to get rid of another one of those maps though :D

OverZero

United States271 Posts

February 09 2011 22:05 GMT

#144

No iCCup maps? I'm kinda surprised by that. I think some of them would be a better choice than scrap station.

Smigi

United States328 Posts

February 09 2011 22:06 GMT

#145

Nice stuff, thanks for not being mindless like some other tournaments and putting in steppes/delta/basin ect. into the map pool.

This is pretty much a solid statement to all tournaments to stop using the broken maps.

TemplarCo.

Mexico2870 Posts

February 09 2011 22:10 GMT

#146

Nice maps but I'd like to see more iCCup maps and Lost Temple in there, but still very good maps :D

Reptilia

Chile913 Posts

February 09 2011 22:10 GMT

#147

Definetly:
Metalopolis
Xel Naga
Terminus Re
Shakuras Plateau

Definetly not:
scrap station

and i dislike the others 2 but i guess they are decent. But why only this maps? there are great maps like Prodig's Valhalla or Neo Enigma

Panicc

Germany163 Posts

February 09 2011 22:16 GMT

#148

could n mod warn these guys here who are talking shit? thats annoying pls i dont want them to be in the same room with me..

Good idea to only take the best 5-6 maps.

FrodaN

754 Posts

February 09 2011 22:24 GMT

#149

Scrap station would be a poor choice...as any (and almost every) PvP, there will be a 4 gate or proxy on that map.

Chill

Calgary25955 Posts

February 09 2011 22:28 GMT

#150

On February 10 2011 06:54 Ironical wrote:

Show nested quote +

You clearly do not have eyeballs. There's absolutely way to stop a Protoss from simply playing defensively and creating a deathball on this map. None. First, of course it's possible to flank, as is possible on any map, but that's made extremely less effective by the fact that A) the avenues of attack have starting points that diverge very far from where you would attack to flank, essentially splitting your army for very long periods of time, then B) the reason why forcefields would be so powerful is that it would be entirely possible to simply forcefield off a flanking army.

Of course that's possible on any map, but when all the paths are this narrow, it's a million times easier.

This is great theorycrafting, but there are plenty of ways to mitigate this problem for a competent player.

Shifft

Canada1085 Posts

February 09 2011 22:28 GMT

#151

Get rid of scrap station for sure, and the second worst in my opinion would be Metalopolis, simply because of the possibility of close spawns.

CanucksJC

Canada1241 Posts

February 09 2011 22:29 GMT

#152

Pretty sure Scrap Station doesn't belong in that list

TimeOut

Germany1277 Posts

February 09 2011 22:31 GMT

#153

While I agree with the general selection of maps, I'm very disappointed to see that no ICCup maps were considered. This would have been the perfect opportunity for TL to help ICCup gain their footing in the tournament maps scene, something which they undoubtedly deserve.

But everything that can be said about that has already been said.

Are Metalopolis, Scrap Station and Xel'naga Caverns considered for inclusion in the original Blizzard version or in a modified version (e.g. GSL / custom)?

I actually like the inclusion of Scrap Station, it has a different feel to it compared with the other maps, maybe comparable with close air positions on Metalopolis. Makes for some interesting games to watch.

Baituri

Netherlands1501 Posts

February 09 2011 22:35 GMT

#154

Would love to see some iCCup maps in there. Actually I am disliking the Official Blizzard maps at the moment. I have just played/seen to many matches of it already. It would be nice if we can get a nice mix of iCCup and GSL maps.

Kyhol

Canada2574 Posts

February 09 2011 22:38 GMT

#155

Remove scrap and the map line up will be superb.

Sprouter

United States1724 Posts

February 09 2011 22:47 GMT

#156

i always expect iccup.diamond to show up whenever maps are mentioned. haven't been disappointed yet.
i agree with ghostclaw. iccup.diamond would be benefit from some humility that there are at least some tournament organizers that are accepting iccup's amateur (as in not being contracted/paid) maps.

Ascend

United States120 Posts

February 09 2011 22:52 GMT

#157

My money is on Shakura's Plateau and Scrap Station being removed from the map pool. I think "Refined Scrap Station" would have a better chance, but as-is, has a few too many positional flaws for it to be seriously considered.

ALang

Canada288 Posts

February 09 2011 22:54 GMT

#158

How is scrap station making the map pool every week.

butter

United States785 Posts

February 09 2011 23:01 GMT

#159

Don't worry! It just wouldn't be TSL without seemingly insurmountable map imbalance. Wuthering Heights? wololo

knyttym

United States5797 Posts

February 09 2011 23:05 GMT

#160

Honestly I don't like metalopolis in this pool. You are trying your best to eliminate horrid imbalances in maps but the close position metal is like trying to play on steppes without a decent 3rd base option. If your players say the 33% chance is small enough for them, then cool. I don't consider it a shoo-in whatsoever.