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Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-10 01:14:57
February 10 2011 01:09 GMT
#181
On February 10 2011 10:03 SiguR wrote:
I think everyone is missing some key points.
The TSL is going to be the largest online starcraft tournament to date (as far as I am aware. Could be wrong). In my opinion, this event is not the place to test maps that haven't seen major mainstream use. No, an iccup map series is not main stream use.


Please read my post two posts above yours.I can do the exact same thing you just did with players like Mana, Kas, White-Ra, TLO, Morrow, Sjow,Kas,... who all play in the cups I mentioned on a regular basis and know iCCup Pawn Re and iCCup Testbug, but probably never play GSL maps.

And I'd consider maps used by ESL pretty mainstream.
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
February 10 2011 01:10 GMT
#182
I'd go with Crevasse, Crossfire, Shakuras, Tal'Darim, and XNC if 5. Not sure which of the remaining I would pick if 6.
darkwon
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany56 Posts
February 10 2011 01:17 GMT
#183
On February 10 2011 10:03 SiguR wrote:

"Hey MC, Fruitdealer, nestea, MVP, boxer, nada, come play in this huge ass international tournament to decide the best player in the world. The fans will go nuts! But lets play on maps you've never seen before and most of the viewership has never seen before"



"Hey Kas, Naniwa, White-Ra, TLO, Fenix, GoOdy, come play in this huge ass tournament to decide the best player in the world. To make it fair we decided to use standard Korean maps. You may have seen them in GOMTV. Good Luck!"
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-10 01:30:45
February 10 2011 01:29 GMT
#184
On February 10 2011 10:09 Ragoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 10:03 SiguR wrote:
I think everyone is missing some key points.
The TSL is going to be the largest online starcraft tournament to date (as far as I am aware. Could be wrong). In my opinion, this event is not the place to test maps that haven't seen major mainstream use. No, an iccup map series is not main stream use.


Please read my post two posts above yours.I can do the exact same thing you just did with players like Mana, Kas, White-Ra, TLO, Morrow, Sjow,Kas,... who all play in the cups I mentioned on a regular basis and know iCCup Pawn Re and iCCup Testbug, but probably never play GSL maps.

And I'd consider maps used by ESL pretty mainstream.


So in a choice of which league to use the maps from, are you really trying to fault team liquid for going with the maps from the biggest league in the world? They had to pick between IcCup maps, GSL maps, and making their own maps. They can't really just pick and choose from each. Asking players to practice maps from the ESL, the GSL, and the ladder pool for a one time tournament would be unreasonable. Nobody is saying IcCup maps being used would be the end of the world, but I can't see any argument that makes them a better pick than the GSL maps.

Most likely scenario is that they are just as good as the GSL maps. No better and no worse. If that's the case, why is anyone making a fuss? It's not like they are making every series have steppes of war for the first map. We're probably going to see excellent starcraft whether it's on the GSL maps or the ICCUP maps. It's team liquid's prerogative and I think they made the safer choice.
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
February 10 2011 01:36 GMT
#185
will be awesome to see a mix of gsl and blizzard maps, both old and new, in the same tournament
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
February 10 2011 01:39 GMT
#186
Knowing that a likely scenario is that either 1 or 2 of the maps in the pool will be from GSL, I would like to hear a comment from an actual high level player about what he thinks about it. How big of a disadvantage is he at if other players have had more practice on the map than him? Is this tournament-breaking, does it make him less likely to compete?
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57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
February 10 2011 01:43 GMT
#187
Imso, I think scrap station should be scrapped (pun intended), and replaced with either an ICCup map or some other map. It is seriously difficult for protoss to be competitive on the map. Sure, zerg players and possibly terran players like it, but the wide ramp and hard-to-get third make it a really tough map for protoss to play a good macro game on.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
February 10 2011 02:16 GMT
#188
Good call.
No scrap station plz :X
enigmatik
Profile Joined November 2010
United States86 Posts
February 10 2011 02:16 GMT
#189
Awesome, I've been loving Tal'darim Altar and Crossfire, haven't seen too much of the other new maps though
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
February 10 2011 02:16 GMT
#190
Get rid of crevasse/crossfire and put in ICCup Testbug/LoTemp/ICCup Pawn Re or something
ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
February 10 2011 02:28 GMT
#191
On February 10 2011 11:16 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Get rid of crevasse/crossfire and put in ICCup Testbug/LoTemp/ICCup Pawn Re or something


dude crevasse is like the best GSL map
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
February 10 2011 02:34 GMT
#192
Please don't use scrap station
The rest of the maps are indeed worth considering. Maybe one iccup map would be nice, too.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 10 2011 03:01 GMT
#193
Some of you keep missing the point. These are the maps they will be selecting from. Stop recommending maps because it won't happen this TSL.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
February 10 2011 03:15 GMT
#194
i hope the meta youre considering has teh same spawn restrictions as shakuras.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
February 10 2011 03:35 GMT
#195
scrap station should be remove
Thanks for using GSL maps
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
February 10 2011 03:36 GMT
#196
Ideal selection: Shakuras/Xel'Naga with neutral supply depot and ramps, and 3 or 4 GSL maps (my preference being no Crossfire.)
Kimozabi
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark10 Posts
February 10 2011 03:47 GMT
#197
Awesome choice of maps. I really hope we'll see less and less of Jungle Basin and Steppes in the future. Thumbs up
Heaven or beef.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
February 10 2011 03:48 GMT
#198
I think you should scrap crapstation.
Teddimijia
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14 Posts
February 10 2011 04:00 GMT
#199
... no Lost Temple?? aww i loved that map... but then again I play terran... lol
I've spared with demons from the Nine Hells themselves, I shall barely break a sweat here today.
fUddO
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada197 Posts
February 10 2011 05:05 GMT
#200
I'm so tired of seeing Scrap Station and Metalopolis. Xel'naga Caverns isn't too bad, imo.
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