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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 12 2021 15:47 GMT
#62661
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-12 16:37:59
February 12 2021 16:36 GMT
#62662
That doesn't make it a conspiracy theory. There is no conspiracy. It is simply an accusation. Not being able to prove something false, does not make an accustion false either. Where did you get conspiracy theory from?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 12 2021 18:04 GMT
#62663
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-12 20:00:20
February 12 2021 19:39 GMT
#62664
What you've done is equate "theory" about a "conspiracy" with "conspiracy theory". It's like saying that a foxglove is the glove of a fox.

A definition without a source. Which I can say with utter certaincy that is not of a definition of a conspiracy theory but that of a definition of a conspiracy. Which is why you didn't link a source because we all know that it would lead to conspiracy and not conspiracy theory. Don't play nonsense semantic games just because you want to write an inappropriate diatribe against conspiracy theorists.

You want to talk about conspiracy theories, you can do so with a proper example and this isn't it. Match fixing accusations are not under what we call conspiracy theories and you know it. Yoda was certainly matchfixing. Was he part of a conspiracy theory? No, he was not. He was conspiring, but to theorise he is conspiring is not a conspiracy theory. Would matchfixing accusations of Yoda be a conspiracy theory even if he was not match fixing? That is a theory about a conspiracy. Again this cannot be descibed as a conspiracy theory.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10253 Posts
February 12 2021 19:45 GMT
#62665
Can't we call it a conspiracy theory because the user is implying that TL is somehow helping cover it up by silencing users that are voicing their concerns about a conspiracy to match fix?

con·spir·a·cy the·o·ry
/kənˈspirəsē ˈTHiərē,ˈTHirē/
noun
a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.
"they sought to account for the attacks in terms of a conspiracy theory"
Definitions from Oxford Languages


TL is not a covert organization but it can be argued to be influential, and maybe the mods that are silencing the claims of match fixing are part of a covert organization which profits from said match fixing? 😂
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-12 20:06:42
February 12 2021 19:48 GMT
#62666
But the user is NOT implying that TL is somehow helping cover it up by silencing users that are voicing their concerns about a conspiracy to match fix. He wrote something, got warned, then asked about it in this thread, then Kwark answered his question.

Defintions of Conspiracy theory:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/conspiracy-theory
Conspiracy theory, an attempt to explain harmful or tragic events as the result of the actions of a small powerful group. Such explanations reject the accepted narrative surrounding those events


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory (yes wikipedia I know, but as a it goes much more in depth than a single line from an online dictionary.

A conspiracy theory is an explanation for an event or situation that invokes a conspiracy by sinister and powerful groups, often political in motivation, when other explanations are more probable. The term has a negative connotation, implying that the appeal to a conspiracy is based on prejudice or insufficient evidence.


Lets list the ways this doesn't fit your definition anyways.

TL.net is not covert.
TL.net is not an influential organization. (Though we may wish it to be!)
TL.net is not responsible for a circumstance or event.
There is no explanation to reject in the first place.
There is no accepted narrative, just Kwark replying to a question.


It takes quite a leap of faith to go from someone asking why his post was banned to him implying that TL is somehow helping cover a matchfixing game. Which still doesn't fall under the umbrella of a conspiracy theory anyways.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-12 21:54:47
February 12 2021 21:41 GMT
#62667
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-12 22:32:33
February 12 2021 22:20 GMT
#62668
i think we can all agree that the cabal of moderators on this forum have an agenda for silencing dissenting opinions. I’d say ask Danglars BUT WE CANT.

checkmate nerds.

just to clarify, light hearted sarcasm. <3
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19185 Posts
February 12 2021 22:41 GMT
#62669
just fyi this is the the ABL thread not the Definition of "Conspiracy Theory" thread
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26224 Posts
February 12 2021 23:42 GMT
#62670
On February 13 2021 07:41 tofucake wrote:
just fyi this is the the ABL thread not the Definition of "Conspiracy Theory" thread

Why was this the first hit when I Googled ‘Team Liquid’s Definition of Conspiracy Theory thread’ then?

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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10253 Posts
February 13 2021 00:56 GMT
#62671
On February 13 2021 07:41 tofucake wrote:
just fyi this is the the ABL thread not the Definition of "Conspiracy Theory" thread

They're silencing us again! Conspiracy theory confirmed.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
February 13 2021 02:32 GMT
#62672
On February 13 2021 08:42 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2021 07:41 tofucake wrote:
just fyi this is the the ABL thread not the Definition of "Conspiracy Theory" thread

Why was this the first hit when I Googled ‘Team Liquid’s Definition of Conspiracy Theory thread’ then?



surprised it didn't send you to USPOL
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-14 16:06:44
February 14 2021 16:01 GMT
#62673
It's quite simple. ExpatRights asked why he was warned for accusations of matchfixing. Kwark answered his question.
The guy didn't imply there is a conspiracy theory or a cover up or anything. He asked a question and the next post answered it. He seems satisfied by the answer. Then you decided to go on a random tirade about conspiracy theory. That's the exact event chain.

I'm not the one who brought up the definition of a conspiracy theory (actually just conspiracy), that was JimmieC. I pointed out that a theory of a conspiracy is not a conspiracy theory. That's separate to the issue and I don't care what people think the definition is.

Example: WESG 2018 Macsed vs diamond protoss. I made accusations of matchfixing. Thread was eventually closed. I asked why and got an answer. Where the conspiracy theory?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 14 2021 16:07 GMT
#62674
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-14 16:14:51
February 14 2021 16:13 GMT
#62675
Ok, you clearly didn't read what I wrote. I don't think he had a theory on a conspiracy. I literally wrote and this is in the very same quote you just had of mine
On February 15 2021 01:01 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's separate to the issue and I don't care what people think the definition is.


Don't be a Danglars, because you want to win an internet argument. I don't care nor want to talk about your definitions of a conspiracy.

Where did the guy wrote there is a conspiracy theory? You labelled him as a conspiracy theorist for no reason. He asked a reasonable question and got a reply from Kwark. That's all that happened.

User was warned for this post.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 14 2021 16:22 GMT
#62676
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AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-15 08:57:15
February 15 2021 08:56 GMT
#62677
Supporting explicitly wrong arguments and being totally closed to the discussion but with "best regards" and "cordially" is ok, however pointing it out is not?
Am I missing something?
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8778 Posts
February 15 2021 09:43 GMT
#62678
On February 15 2021 01:22 JimmiC wrote:
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On February 15 2021 01:13 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Ok, you clearly didn't read what I wrote. I don't think he had a theory on a conspiracy. I literally wrote and this is in the very same quote you just had of mine
On February 15 2021 01:01 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's separate to the issue and I don't care what people think the definition is.


Don't be a Danglars, because you want to win an internet argument. I don't care nor want to talk about your definitions of a conspiracy.

Where did the guy wrote there is a conspiracy theory? You labelled him as a conspiracy theorist for no reason. He asked a reasonable question and got a reply from Kwark. That's all that happened.

I disagree with you, I've explained why. I did not label him a conspiracy theorist, I said he had presented a conspiracy theory, this was not a insult but a statement of fact. Having a conspiracy does not make someone bad, nor does believing it, it only becomes a problem when people start treating their theories like facts.

You agree he spoke of a conspiracy, you agree he had a theory (did not have proof) why you think that is not a conspiracy theory is beyond me but by all means feel free to continue, you just will do so without me.

Also, there is no need to insult me and I am nothing like Danglars.


dmcd is right. i dont think you know how to use the term "conspiracy theory" properly.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
February 15 2021 13:38 GMT
#62679
Am I the only who thought the conspiracy theory was about the matchfixing itself and not about the TL staff modding the stuff out of the pages?

On February 13 2021 11:32 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2021 08:42 WombaT wrote:
On February 13 2021 07:41 tofucake wrote:
just fyi this is the the ABL thread not the Definition of "Conspiracy Theory" thread

Why was this the first hit when I Googled ‘Team Liquid’s Definition of Conspiracy Theory thread’ then?



surprised it didn't send you to USPOL

even Google has some dignity and standards?


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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-15 13:50:50
February 15 2021 13:49 GMT
#62680
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