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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24782 Posts
January 27 2021 23:00 GMT
#62621
Someone posted on nextdoor today asking where in my county they can go to become a notary republic.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8912 Posts
January 27 2021 23:07 GMT
#62622
On January 28 2021 00:45 JimmiC wrote:
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On January 28 2021 00:19 evilfatsh1t wrote:
no? dont know how you could see it from that perspective.
if someone called someone else a faggot on tl forums in 2021, 100% they would be warned/temped because the word would be deemed too offensive or inappropriate. back then whoever the mods were obviously understood that people talk shit on a gaming forum and you dont have to be sensitive to everything.
you cant deny mod standards have been influenced by pc culture on these forums over the past few years. theres probably a correlation between growing pc influence in tl and the dwindling number of conservatives actually

talking shit is one thing using words like "faggot" is weak as fuck because there is no consequences online, there is nothing "hard" about it. Letting it slide is soft because its easier. In real life using words liek that means it is fight time, at least aroun d here, online it just makes u a coward.

It is not about being PC it about how ignorant and wussy it is to say shit like that online. That a bunch of ignorant nerds thought (and some still do) that that was hard is embarrassing. I would hope now that were not 12 it would have been figured out.

when did i say using the word faggot made you "hard"? i never said anything of the sort
i said moderation standards have gotten soft. what dmcd is correct, the word has always been offensive. that doesnt change the fact that there was once a time when these forums let use of offensive or crude terms slide because tbh most of it was just banter between young gamers.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 27 2021 23:14 GMT
#62623
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 27 2021 23:37 GMT
#62624
In comparison to the past, moderation is much more consistent and fair. It's also way easier to let someone trashtalk and ignore it than action it and have to go back and forth in pms to settle the matter. More so considering mod history piles up and someone flaming several times will get harsher moderation due to it.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8912 Posts
January 28 2021 00:58 GMT
#62625
On January 28 2021 08:14 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2021 08:07 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On January 28 2021 00:45 JimmiC wrote:
On January 28 2021 00:19 evilfatsh1t wrote:
no? dont know how you could see it from that perspective.
if someone called someone else a faggot on tl forums in 2021, 100% they would be warned/temped because the word would be deemed too offensive or inappropriate. back then whoever the mods were obviously understood that people talk shit on a gaming forum and you dont have to be sensitive to everything.
you cant deny mod standards have been influenced by pc culture on these forums over the past few years. theres probably a correlation between growing pc influence in tl and the dwindling number of conservatives actually

talking shit is one thing using words like "faggot" is weak as fuck because there is no consequences online, there is nothing "hard" about it. Letting it slide is soft because its easier. In real life using words liek that means it is fight time, at least aroun d here, online it just makes u a coward.

It is not about being PC it about how ignorant and wussy it is to say shit like that online. That a bunch of ignorant nerds thought (and some still do) that that was hard is embarrassing. I would hope now that were not 12 it would have been figured out.

when did i say using the word faggot made you "hard"? i never said anything of the sort
i said moderation standards have gotten soft. what dmcd is correct, the word has always been offensive. that doesnt change the fact that there was once a time when these forums let use of offensive or crude terms slide because tbh most of it was just banter between young gamers.

Which goes back to my initial point, you have it backwards. They were soft and let little wusses feel tough on this forum by pretending to be tough guys, with no actual experience in being hard they assume it is by being ignorant. Now the mods are not soft and people have to live with the consequences of what they say. I hope more of the internet moves in this direction. I'm sure most of the people wouldn't speak the way they write in real life because of those consequences.

My preferred result is that people say shit like that got punched in the face, which has been what often happens in real life, but since that is not possible here, we live with what we got.

I see no value in people ignorantly insulting each other online, it so low and boring. Where is the wit? People like that not being here is a win.

i understand what youre saying now. you want the forums to be moderated so that its all flowers and rainbows and that result satisfies you because you think mods should have no tolerance against shit talking behaviour. i will admit that i find that incredibly boring (and hugely out of character for a site that was founded on gaming), but ok. thats your opinion.
whilst i appreciate the civility of the forums at times i still equally enjoy banter/trash talk and overall less sensitivity when engaging in casual conversation. reading the posts in that blog was highly enjoyable for me; not just because telecom got exposed but because of all the unmoderated shit he got for it. thats the kind of stuff that brings gaming forums to life
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 28 2021 01:42 GMT
#62626
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19228 Posts
January 28 2021 04:03 GMT
#62627
It is entirely possible to trash talk and be a dick while both not getting moderated and not being a hateful piece of shit.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10346 Posts
January 28 2021 05:03 GMT
#62628
On January 28 2021 13:03 tofucake wrote:
It is entirely possible to trash talk and be a dick while both not getting moderated and not being a hateful piece of shit.

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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 05:05:55
January 28 2021 05:05 GMT
#62629
On January 28 2021 13:03 tofucake wrote:
It is entirely possible to trash talk and be a dick while both not getting moderated and not being a hateful piece of shit.


Yeah, just hang out in the US Politics thread.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
January 28 2021 09:20 GMT
#62630
On January 28 2021 07:31 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2021 07:25 zeo wrote:
On January 28 2021 00:19 evilfatsh1t wrote:
no? dont know how you could see it from that perspective.
if someone called someone else a faggot on tl forums in 2021, 100% they would be warned/temped because the word would be deemed too offensive or inappropriate. back then whoever the mods were obviously understood that people talk shit on a gaming forum and you dont have to be sensitive to everything.
you cant deny mod standards have been influenced by pc culture on these forums over the past few years. theres probably a correlation between growing pc influence in tl and the dwindling number of conservatives actually

TL was run by much younger people 12 years ago. Those people are now old. There is a dwindling number of people in general because of the constant virtue signaling and gatekeeping of these old people emulating modern collage kids.

I say let the children talk shit. They are children, no one banned any of you from saying anything when you were young. When adults say these things its distasteful and i think lesser of them, but the person going out of their way to make long forum posts about the 'need to discuss it' is just facepalm. You will never see them writing about about gays being executed and strung up around the Arab world and Africa, but heaven forbid a no no was said on a forum. Got to write three paragraphs about that... pronto!

You’re upset that tl mods are doing more to police teamliquid posting than they do to combat homophobia in the Arab world? Do you see why that’s an odd thing to be upset about?

Im not upset, far from it. My second paragraph was aimed at the posters of TL, not the mods. The mods are just enabling these people to clutter up the forums with virtue signaling. Any normal person gets turned away from active participation and this has over time lead to less people staying here.

Forums in this format have become a relic of the past in general and im sure this is less atractive to younger people these days. But gatekeeping just turns what little is left away. When I joined TL something like 12 years ago now there where less people on than today, but the passion of the young staff and freedom of expression was there and that allowed TL to bloom after SC2 came out. If SC2 came out today people would check out these forums and be turned away. My two cents.
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
January 28 2021 10:16 GMT
#62631
On January 26 2021 10:18 BisuDagger wrote:
The fact that Telecom made it this long is legendary. I feel like we should unperm someone else with a large rap sheet to balance the force.


K thx
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
January 28 2021 10:48 GMT
#62632
wat
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51102 Posts
January 28 2021 12:02 GMT
#62633
On January 28 2021 19:16 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2021 10:18 BisuDagger wrote:
The fact that Telecom made it this long is legendary. I feel like we should unperm someone else with a large rap sheet to balance the force.


K thx


you seem to be doing just fine.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27207 Posts
January 28 2021 12:53 GMT
#62634
On January 28 2021 18:20 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2021 07:31 KwarK wrote:
On January 28 2021 07:25 zeo wrote:
On January 28 2021 00:19 evilfatsh1t wrote:
no? dont know how you could see it from that perspective.
if someone called someone else a faggot on tl forums in 2021, 100% they would be warned/temped because the word would be deemed too offensive or inappropriate. back then whoever the mods were obviously understood that people talk shit on a gaming forum and you dont have to be sensitive to everything.
you cant deny mod standards have been influenced by pc culture on these forums over the past few years. theres probably a correlation between growing pc influence in tl and the dwindling number of conservatives actually

TL was run by much younger people 12 years ago. Those people are now old. There is a dwindling number of people in general because of the constant virtue signaling and gatekeeping of these old people emulating modern collage kids.

I say let the children talk shit. They are children, no one banned any of you from saying anything when you were young. When adults say these things its distasteful and i think lesser of them, but the person going out of their way to make long forum posts about the 'need to discuss it' is just facepalm. You will never see them writing about about gays being executed and strung up around the Arab world and Africa, but heaven forbid a no no was said on a forum. Got to write three paragraphs about that... pronto!

You’re upset that tl mods are doing more to police teamliquid posting than they do to combat homophobia in the Arab world? Do you see why that’s an odd thing to be upset about?

Im not upset, far from it. My second paragraph was aimed at the posters of TL, not the mods. The mods are just enabling these people to clutter up the forums with virtue signaling. Any normal person gets turned away from active participation and this has over time lead to less people staying here.

Forums in this format have become a relic of the past in general and im sure this is less atractive to younger people these days. But gatekeeping just turns what little is left away. When I joined TL something like 12 years ago now there where less people on than today, but the passion of the young staff and freedom of expression was there and that allowed TL to bloom after SC2 came out. If SC2 came out today people would check out these forums and be turned away. My two cents.

Well that or the initial forum dwelling generation upon widespread internet uptake was one generation of mostly young white dudes and was never really going to last?

I’m not going to lie and say I didn’t enjoy some of the shit talk and banter in my youth, stuff I wouldn’t particularly condone today but that does feel mitigated somewhat by being internally contained within one rough cohort of people. It’s different when the groups that get thrown around as slurs and insults or are referred to in derogatory terms become part of the community, or they don’t and the freedom becomes its own gatekeeper.

Society has changed a lot too. Even as a young child with no real understanding of sexuality ‘gay’ was liberally used as an insult on the playground, and I’ve never heard my kiddo ever use it. I’d assume partly because homosexuality is so normalised.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51102 Posts
January 28 2021 13:19 GMT
#62635
Tappo has really gotten out of hand this time.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 28 2021 14:32 GMT
#62636
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 28 2021 14:38 GMT
#62637
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
January 28 2021 14:46 GMT
#62638
On January 28 2021 23:38 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2021 18:20 zeo wrote:
On January 28 2021 07:31 KwarK wrote:
On January 28 2021 07:25 zeo wrote:
On January 28 2021 00:19 evilfatsh1t wrote:
no? dont know how you could see it from that perspective.
if someone called someone else a faggot on tl forums in 2021, 100% they would be warned/temped because the word would be deemed too offensive or inappropriate. back then whoever the mods were obviously understood that people talk shit on a gaming forum and you dont have to be sensitive to everything.
you cant deny mod standards have been influenced by pc culture on these forums over the past few years. theres probably a correlation between growing pc influence in tl and the dwindling number of conservatives actually

TL was run by much younger people 12 years ago. Those people are now old. There is a dwindling number of people in general because of the constant virtue signaling and gatekeeping of these old people emulating modern collage kids.

I say let the children talk shit. They are children, no one banned any of you from saying anything when you were young. When adults say these things its distasteful and i think lesser of them, but the person going out of their way to make long forum posts about the 'need to discuss it' is just facepalm. You will never see them writing about about gays being executed and strung up around the Arab world and Africa, but heaven forbid a no no was said on a forum. Got to write three paragraphs about that... pronto!

You’re upset that tl mods are doing more to police teamliquid posting than they do to combat homophobia in the Arab world? Do you see why that’s an odd thing to be upset about?

Im not upset, far from it. My second paragraph was aimed at the posters of TL, not the mods. The mods are just enabling these people to clutter up the forums with virtue signaling. Any normal person gets turned away from active participation and this has over time lead to less people staying here.

Forums in this format have become a relic of the past in general and im sure this is less atractive to younger people these days. But gatekeeping just turns what little is left away. When I joined TL something like 12 years ago now there where less people on than today, but the passion of the young staff and freedom of expression was there and that allowed TL to bloom after SC2 came out. If SC2 came out today people would check out these forums and be turned away. My two cents.

I think it is very strange that you think it's "normal" to use hateful and ignorant terms and that if not allowed these "normal" people won't stay. Do you you hear these things on the regular in your day to day? Do you think most people want to use them but cant/don't? Have you considered that maybe most people don't because they find it distasteful and wrong?

TL is not shrinking because of mods and users making ignorant and hateful people not welcome. They don't ban that many people, they ban a few people many times!

While I don't approve using these words on a regular basis, I must say that people shouldn't get offended by anonymous people on the internets. Also it shows more about the speaker when they have to use such terms. But maybe I'm just too insensitive after the years on the internets, especially since I started at CS which was quite offensive place(and I believe it still is :D )
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9642 Posts
January 28 2021 15:13 GMT
#62639
one does not need to be offended to call out wrongness.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 28 2021 15:24 GMT
#62640
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