The Automated Ban List - Page 3114

On October 28 2020 00:49 micronesia wrote:
I think the more serious discussion has been whether to stick to status quo or go back to the early days policy of no political discussions. If the latter is selected, the politics threads get closed... we don't actually need to ban everyone in those threads... as cathartic as that might be.

On October 28 2020 03:40 FlaShFTW wrote:

Or being a PBU.

Also balance whining. Very easy to earn yourself a ban, as I've been banned a couple times for that.

On October 28 2020 03:37 FlaShFTW wrote:

Alright Seeker, send him out the airlock.

I didn't realize the extent of what actually happens in the political thread until I started reading through and joining the discussion. Some... interesting folks in there to say the least.

EDIT: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH nice work Tofucake

On October 28 2020 03:00 farvacola wrote:
Sorta, though it fits with the trend of right-leaning posters breaking well-known rules while complaining that right-leaning posters keep getting banned or treated unfairly.

On October 28 2020 04:18 FlaShFTW wrote:

Among us has given us so many great memes this year, Game of the Year easily. Thank god for small indie games making it big.

On October 28 2020 04:15 Danglars wrote:

When the rules weren't sufficient, they made a subjective rule. But see previous discussion on complaints that the rules are only strictly enforced against right-leaning posters, and considerable leeway is granted to left-leaning posters. This goes back several years.

On October 28 2020 04:46 brian wrote:


non right leaning STAFF have been actioned for this exact same reason. the rule is not subjective, there is no interpretive leeway in ‘your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source..’ you may think its enforcement is, but more than a few lefties have been hit with it as well. this is just confirmation bias. which isn’t to mention how extremely flagrant this particular example is.

idk Farva clearly had this pegged and you are making his case for him.

On October 28 2020 05:30 Danglars wrote:

Sorry, this is a broader subject than just the latest ban ... hence people talk about "trends." So it absolutely must include the multiple subjective bans, and past mod actions. I've eaten two of those subjective ones that don't violate stated rules, one for around three-four months and another for around 1-2 months.

You're making my point for me, since you bring up "your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source" as if that's an actual example of selective rule enforcement that right-leaning posters have made time and time again in this thread.

The fact that TL has been unable or unwilling to recruit right-wing or right-leaning mods to the forum thread is an obvious failure on their part. It would be much better every time they trot out the "don't worry, discussions took place behind closed doors, and we decided overwhelmingly on the following action" if there were 3+ McCain or Romney or Trump voters offering their perspective on the staff forums. There aren't.

This is TL's house, they can choose to have a bunch of left-wingers (American perspective) moderate a politics thread, and try their best. Given the longevity of these series of threads, it would behoove them to recruit some more people to the right of Falling to assist Seeker in adjudicating matters in just this thread. The best posters were banned, stopped posting regularly, or stopped posting at all. This was not a recent phenomenon, and recent bans don't really fit the past trend.

From the moderator perspective, the amount of effort it would take to bring back the clutZs and oBlades of older times (and make sure new recruits stay) is rather easy. Just recruit some ideological diversity and assign them to the only thread that really lacks it and needs it. The leftwing shitposters don't get a partial free pass, and the conservative posters know they have the same fair line at what constitutes an unacceptable post.

On October 28 2020 05:43 tofucake wrote:
The main problem with that is that we have a policy of not moderating threads we are active in. Finding someone who cares enough to keep up with all the posts and moderate the thread without relying on reports (which still requires reading a bunch of the thread to get context even if not closely following the thread) who will also not participate is hard enough. Add in that report statistics are a big part of deciding if we should make someone a mod, and the habit of most posts in US Pol being reported because "they disagreed with me", we end up with a lot of terrible report statistics on the people who follow the thread. Also there are fewer US conservatives (pretty much all US posters are EU conservative so there you go) on TL in general.

"It's easy, just get some conservative mods" is wrong. It's not easy. It's not easy to get any new mod, much less a conservative mod with a focus on US Pol.

On October 28 2020 05:30 Danglars wrote:

You're making my point for me, since you bring up "your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source" as if that's an actual example of selective rule enforcement that right-leaning posters have made time and time again in this thread.