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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10287 Posts
July 18 2020 16:50 GMT
#61761
On July 19 2020 01:04 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
did JimmiC even read the article. He says he doesn't live near Ottawa. Welp, it was published by the Ottawa Citizen, however, this is not where the alleged crime took place. Supposedly the vandalism occurred in Halton. So we're talking Milton and Oakville.

Nazis in Milton? The only Nazi activity I've experienced in Milton lately has been "Soup Nazi" type activity. When I go to McD's in Miltion I get told by employees exactly where to stand. They have spots on the floor and they are extremely vigilant about what I'm doing when in the restaurant. It kinda reminds me of the "Soup Nazi". For whatever reason, the restaurants in neighbouring places like Mississauga and Etobicoke are not nearly as strict.

I guess this is a case of life imitating art.

Here is the "Soup Nazi".


This is what its like ordering food at Mcdonald's in Milton these days. Just like in the episode shown when I enter I must immediately walk to the right. When exiting the store there is also an exact path I must take. Employees enforce this pretty hard core.

Seriously though,. the level of violent crime in Milton and Oakville is almost zero.
https://www.haltonpolice.ca/crimefiles/statistics/index.php

https://globalnews.ca/news/4352804/halton-region-canadas-lowest-for-crime-13-years-running-statistics-canada/

I'm not worried about Nazis in Halton region.

You do understand it is because of COVID-19, right?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17299 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 17:16:36
July 18 2020 17:15 GMT
#61762
On July 19 2020 01:50 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2020 01:04 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
did JimmiC even read the article. He says he doesn't live near Ottawa. Welp, it was published by the Ottawa Citizen, however, this is not where the alleged crime took place. Supposedly the vandalism occurred in Halton. So we're talking Milton and Oakville.

Nazis in Milton? The only Nazi activity I've experienced in Milton lately has been "Soup Nazi" type activity. When I go to McD's in Miltion I get told by employees exactly where to stand. They have spots on the floor and they are extremely vigilant about what I'm doing when in the restaurant. It kinda reminds me of the "Soup Nazi". For whatever reason, the restaurants in neighbouring places like Mississauga and Etobicoke are not nearly as strict.

I guess this is a case of life imitating art.

Here is the "Soup Nazi".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euLQOQNVzgY

This is what its like ordering food at Mcdonald's in Milton these days. Just like in the episode shown when I enter I must immediately walk to the right. When exiting the store there is also an exact path I must take. Employees enforce this pretty hard core.

Seriously though,. the level of violent crime in Milton and Oakville is almost zero.
https://www.haltonpolice.ca/crimefiles/statistics/index.php

https://globalnews.ca/news/4352804/halton-region-canadas-lowest-for-crime-13-years-running-statistics-canada/

I'm not worried about Nazis in Halton region.

You do understand it is because of COVID-19, right?

yes, i hope you read the part that mentioned that it is not nearly as strict in Etobicoke and Mississauga.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
July 19 2020 12:59 GMT
#61763
On July 19 2020 00:36 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 11:01 farvacola wrote:
They shadow banned poor JimmiC

A shadow ban is just hiding a user's posts from everyone else so they don't know they are banned, and everyone else just thinks that person stopped posting. We don't do shadow bans.
Yeah I was just copying Farvacola's usage. On note about different usage of words, the UK has an official shadow cabinet. A shadowy group of people waiting to supplant the current government and pounce into power.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18230 Posts
July 19 2020 13:58 GMT
#61764
On July 19 2020 21:59 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2020 00:36 tofucake wrote:
On July 18 2020 11:01 farvacola wrote:
They shadow banned poor JimmiC

A shadow ban is just hiding a user's posts from everyone else so they don't know they are banned, and everyone else just thinks that person stopped posting. We don't do shadow bans.
Yeah I was just copying Farvacola's usage. On note about different usage of words, the UK has an official shadow cabinet. A shadowy group of people waiting to supplant the current government and pounce into power.

Well, yes, they no doubt want to pounce into power, but given they are members of the opposition, they just don't have hte votes for that. I certainly wouldn't call them shadowy people. They are all out in the open and everything, they just "shadow" the actual government's positions.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 20 2020 16:12 GMT
#61765
--- Nuked ---
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
July 20 2020 16:30 GMT
#61766
Welcome to the ban drama thread! Do have a good time!
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 20 2020 16:46 GMT
#61767
To opt out of drama, you can send a PM to Seeker requesting that the circumstances of your ban not be discussed until you're back to respond to it.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37063 Posts
July 20 2020 17:08 GMT
#61768
On July 21 2020 01:46 LegalLord wrote:
To opt out of drama, you can send a PM to Seeker requesting that the circumstances of your ban not be discussed until you're back to respond to it.

I vaguely remember doing that for someone. Do you remember who it was for?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 20 2020 17:10 GMT
#61769
--- Nuked ---
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 20 2020 18:34 GMT
#61770
On July 21 2020 02:08 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2020 01:46 LegalLord wrote:
To opt out of drama, you can send a PM to Seeker requesting that the circumstances of your ban not be discussed until you're back to respond to it.

I vaguely remember doing that for someone. Do you remember who it was for?

Yeah - Wrath / WrathSC2.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10287 Posts
July 20 2020 20:05 GMT
#61771
On July 21 2020 03:34 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2020 02:08 Seeker wrote:
On July 21 2020 01:46 LegalLord wrote:
To opt out of drama, you can send a PM to Seeker requesting that the circumstances of your ban not be discussed until you're back to respond to it.

I vaguely remember doing that for someone. Do you remember who it was for?

Yeah - Wrath / WrathSC2.

Lmfao that guy is a character for sure.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 21 2020 14:20 GMT
#61772

MoltkeWarding was just temp banned for 2 days by Seeker.

That account was created on 2003-11-18 03:15:35 and had 5195 posts.

Reason: When you come back, please stay away from the Euro Politics thread.


That little line of Euro thread discussion was... a little worse for wear. Yikes.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23675 Posts
July 21 2020 14:21 GMT
#61773
On July 21 2020 23:20 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +

MoltkeWarding was just temp banned for 2 days by Seeker.

That account was created on 2003-11-18 03:15:35 and had 5195 posts.

Reason: When you come back, please stay away from the Euro Politics thread.


That little line of Euro thread discussion was... a little worse for wear. Yikes.

Yikes indeed.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18855 Posts
July 21 2020 14:22 GMT
#61774
Old Moltke posts were better, or maybe that’s just nostalgia talking.

Also kudos on the ProTech ban, how anyone can look at what Avilo has done and blame his victims is astounding to me
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22125 Posts
July 21 2020 14:30 GMT
#61775
On July 21 2020 23:20 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +

MoltkeWarding was just temp banned for 2 days by Seeker.

That account was created on 2003-11-18 03:15:35 and had 5195 posts.

Reason: When you come back, please stay away from the Euro Politics thread.


That little line of Euro thread discussion was... a little worse for wear. Yikes.
I'm mostly amazed people were responding to him rather then reporting the post as soon as he went for the full 'Hitler was not a racist'.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 21 2020 14:42 GMT
#61776
On July 21 2020 23:40 MoltkeWarding3 wrote:
I was just banned by someone here, so this is my last post on tl.net forever. Even Kwark misunderstood me. Whether deliberately so, or no. What I said obviously applied to the time of the Third Reich, not before. And I am not talking about Germans who went abroad to other countries. Obviously, the USA is today mostly "ethnically German." That does not matter. They were "Americanised."

I am out.


Preemptively noting this post. Someone was quick to the report button trigger because I missed out by about 5 seconds lolol.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 21 2020 14:53 GMT
#61777
--- Nuked ---
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10854 Posts
July 21 2020 14:54 GMT
#61778
On July 21 2020 23:22 farvacola wrote:
Old Moltke posts were better, or maybe that’s just nostalgia talking.

Also kudos on the ProTech ban, how anyone can look at what Avilo has done and blame his victims is astounding to me


His last short stint in one of the politic treads was also rather "interesting".

But before that i also remember him diffrently...
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9283 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-21 14:58:57
July 21 2020 14:57 GMT
#61779
Here's the post (or one of the posts) Moltke was banned for.

On July 21 2020 22:07 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2020 22:04 Acrofales wrote:
On July 21 2020 21:57 MoltkeWarding wrote:
On July 21 2020 21:42 Broetchenholer wrote:
Why am i constantly triggered today? Could you elaborate why not many Nazis were racist, an ideology that believes them to be superior to everyone not of their heritage?

And secondly, the thing with modern Germany is that it is trying not to be racist, not pretending to not be racist. I don't know why you are comparing your situation as a (i assume) working canadian expat in germany with a refugee from Syria or Iraq, but you do you.

Edit: And then you keep posting and every post is triggering me again. I am now going to watch Critical Role in the hopes it restores the balance.


Some of them were, but probably not as many as in the United States back then. Germany had no colonies, and there was very little immigration back then. Some Nazis had racial views, like Himmler. Hitler himself did not.

Here is one of Hitler's "talks."

Pride in one’s race – and that does not imply contempt for other races – is also a normal and healthy sentiment. I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves. They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their history is superior to our own.

They have the right to be proud of their past, just as we have the right to be proud of the civilization to which we belong. Indeed, I believe the more steadfast the Chinese and the Japanese remain in their pride of race, the easier I shall find it to get on with them.


I just said I shoulnd't reply to you but I cant help myself. You are saying, with a straight face, that Hitler wasn't a racist? Like... in what alternate reality do you live?


First of all you have to define what you mean by race, but yes, I just said that Hitler was not "racist," in the common Anglo-American usage of that word. He at one point even said that the Jews are not really a race.

Hitler was just one of the commonly misunderstood and vilified figures in history, like so many people just demonise Osama Bin Laden. Both terribly understood people.

You can understand what another person is saying, even if you do not agree with it. Many people it seems today have this odd "You vs. Me" mentality.

User was temp banned for this post.


I admit it was hard to understand his point at first, but after going through more of his recent posts I don't find anything I read condemnable. It's not like Xxio who was citing crime statistics to make black people look bad. Moltke was just arguing semantics.

Guess you can say it's a terrible idea to follow "Hitler was not "racist,"" with "Hitler was just one of the commonly misunderstood and vilified figures in history", especially after seeing people have problems understanding your point, but there's no nazi apologism in Moltke's posts. Or at least I didn't see it there. Just being wrong about some facts and being really bad at explaining himself.

On July 21 2020 23:42 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2020 23:40 MoltkeWarding3 wrote:
I was just banned by someone here, so this is my last post on tl.net forever. Even Kwark misunderstood me. Whether deliberately so, or no. What I said obviously applied to the time of the Third Reich, not before. And I am not talking about Germans who went abroad to other countries. Obviously, the USA is today mostly "ethnically German." That does not matter. They were "Americanised."

I am out.


Preemptively noting this post. Someone was quick to the report button trigger because I missed out by about 5 seconds lolol.


But where did MoltkeWarding2 go?!
You're now breathing manually
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9639 Posts
July 21 2020 15:04 GMT
#61780
too close to full on hitler apologia for my taste, even with all the leniency he may deserve. if you can’t clearly articulate yourself enough to not sound like you’re saying ‘hitler was just misunderstood,’ then maybe not posting is the right call.
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