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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 22 2014 02:35 GMT
#43481
On January 22 2014 11:24 QuanticHawk wrote:
i never said i didn't understand why, i just mentioned that i enjoyed his posts. the infamous chimp post was definitely one of my top 3 favorite posts on this site hahaha


I started making the post well before you posted :p

It was for the dudes a page or two back

that chimp post was a true classic
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 22 2014 02:40 GMT
#43482
That escalated quickly, lol.

Seems like he just liked being a personality more than he wanted people to actually listen to him. Orrrrrr he didn't see what the problem was, which would be kind of shocking considering how many warnings he got.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32087 Posts
January 22 2014 02:47 GMT
#43483
On January 22 2014 11:35 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 11:24 QuanticHawk wrote:
i never said i didn't understand why, i just mentioned that i enjoyed his posts. the infamous chimp post was definitely one of my top 3 favorite posts on this site hahaha


I started making the post well before you posted :p

It was for the dudes a page or two back

that chimp post was a true classic

The only one that compares is a great brood one that I had saved on my old name but I can't find it
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 22 2014 02:50 GMT
#43484
I now know why people are glad to see him good. There was some comedy in his posts, but god what an asshole. His sole purpose on the forums was to mock people and make them feel like shit. I love a good argument, but I don't want to hit me in real life if they meet me.
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 02:53:13
January 22 2014 02:52 GMT
#43485
On January 22 2014 11:35 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 11:24 QuanticHawk wrote:
i never said i didn't understand why, i just mentioned that i enjoyed his posts. the infamous chimp post was definitely one of my top 3 favorite posts on this site hahaha


I started making the post well before you posted :p

It was for the dudes a page or two back

that chimp post was a true classic


it's ironic i'm the only one who didn't like that one yet found all his other posts to be benign (such as the ones listed on last page)

On January 22 2014 11:40 babylon wrote:
That escalated quickly, lol.

Seems like he just liked being a personality more than he wanted people to actually listen to him. Orrrrrr he didn't see what the problem was, which would be kind of shocking considering how many warnings he got.


he was pretty young and a stoner at times, so it's understandable
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 04:27:59
January 22 2014 04:18 GMT
#43486
On January 22 2014 11:40 babylon wrote:
That escalated quickly, lol.

Seems like he just liked being a personality more than he wanted people to actually listen to him. Orrrrrr he didn't see what the problem was, which would be kind of shocking considering how many warnings he got.

Welcome to the world of "theory"

But despite being a semi-obscurantist at times, his content was much better and worthwhile than most of the people in the politics megathread
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 04:23:14
January 22 2014 04:20 GMT
#43487
this bad psychoanalysis will surely only fuel sam's sense of alienation from the lumpenproletariat that you all wallow in with the rest of us consumerist wreckers

but seriously if you believe this crap about sam posturing... sam is a true believer sam is an old testament prophet trapped in a world where the idolaters have won you guys are way off on what you're saying
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 22 2014 04:21 GMT
#43488
Goddamn it, Sam. There goes one of the more interesting posters on the site.

Still, I understand why it was done. He had become unnecessarily and unusually dickish recently.

And yes, his chimp post is still my favorite one. I thought that it was so artistic at the time that he should have been granted a reprieve from a ban for that post. But I guess rules are rules.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
January 22 2014 04:37 GMT
#43489
On January 22 2014 11:17 lichter wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Well since people don't seem to see why sam was banned, I decided to go through his reported posts:




As a reply to a genuine Help thread in SC2 Strat:

On November 21 2011 13:03 sam!zdat wrote:
1: Make expansion
2: Defense it

User was warned for this post





In a blog that was entitled "1+1= -3" but had absolutely nothing to do with math:

On April 19 2012 01:55 sam!zdat wrote:
If you doubt that 1+1=2 I recommend this book: http://www.amazon.com/Principia-Mathematica-Volume-Set-1-3/dp/052106791X

User was temp banned for this post.





Apparently an insult:

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 02:51 xDaunt wrote:
On August 14 2012 02:43 sam!zdat wrote:
You are still assuming natural resources fall from the sky

there is not an identity between capacity for production and benefit to society

(and you spend all that effort doing something useless, when you could have been enjoying your life or becoming more educated. That would be good for society)


The problem with your argument is that we're not near the point where the natural resources of our planet will seriously constrain our growth to the point where capitalism is the zero-sum game that you're talking about.



How's the sand down there?

User was warned for this post





Still in the President Obama Re Elected thread:

we'll frighten them off with our faggotry

User was temp banned for this post.





US Politics megathread is a cesspool

On March 02 2013 06:31 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 06:15 LaughingTulkas wrote
You, and the poster above you, are making judgement calls about "what is reasonable" and applying it to both positions as if it is established fact.


fweeeeeeep! Meaningless relativism, ten yard penalty

User was warned for this post





Of course there was this famous quote from Globalization: the elephants in the room thread:

On March 16 2013 02:08 sam!zdat wrote:
everything you say is like a chimpanzee howlong in puerile triumph after discovering its first erection

User was temp banned for this post.





I have no idea what this means

On April 02 2013 06:21 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 06:18 Danglars wrote:
On April 02 2013 06:12 sam!zdat wrote:
On April 02 2013 05:55 Tobberoth wrote:
Still, comparing it to religion might be taking it a bit far.


walks like a religion, talks like a religion, promises immortality like a religion...

grand narratives are grand narratives, my friend, no bones about it

Yes. I am suggesting some introspection for the posters here. Step back and consider what you accuse every religion on the planet of doing. Now, look at what you're typing now, in this thread. Maybe your superiority over the blind faith masses isn't quite as stark as it would seem.


+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[image loading]


User was warned for this post

(edit: spoilered image)





That post came after this one, in Will Science unlock immortality

On April 02 2013 06:12 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 05:55 Tobberoth wrote:
Still, comparing it to religion might be taking it a bit far.


walks like a religion, talks like a religion, promises immortality like a religion...

grand narratives are grand narratives, my friend, no bones about it

edit: you can't use this "in the past, people would have been surprised at how things have changed, so now things are also going to keep changing."

what's going to REALLY surprise US is when things STOP changing. that would be the analogy here. "in the past, people used to think that they lived in a state of perpetual change. then it turned out that some things never change. surprise!"







Changed the text he quoted to antagonize

On April 12 2013 03:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 03:58 ThomasjServo wrote:
but at some point the cow that made your burger was tortured so you could have it. I eat meat and recognize this fact.


fixed it

User was warned for this post





This made me laugh when it was originally posted here:

On April 12 2013 04:49 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 04:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 12 2013 04:41 Barrin wrote:
FOLLOW THE MONEY

legislators
campaign contributions by public interest groups
public interest groups funded by big ag corps
big ag corps making money off consumer purchases
consumers.

fuck the consumers!


anyone who thinks of themselves as a "consumer" deserves to be fucked. what an undignified appellation

User was temp banned for this post.





In a thread trying to discuss faith and Christianity in IronManSC's blog

On September 19 2013 11:05 sam!zdat wrote:
jesus is clearly a queer, what else do you think that 'disciple whom jesus loved' stuff is about. The medievals knew it, ever see those paintings of the last supper and stuff with the prettyboy next to him?

User was warned for this post

edit: for the record 'queer' is not an offensive word, that's what the queers call themselves when they want to study queer things. I should know, I live with two of them.





US Politics megathread as usual:

On September 26 2013 11:47 sam!zdat wrote:
too liberal! Clintons just a bunch of running dog liberals like the rest of them! Fuck clintons and their dynastic ambition

User was warned for this post

I don't understand. I think I might be gone again soon guys. Have fun without me.





Back to IronManSC's blog, where he just couldn't stop posting despite...

On October 04 2013 07:48 sam!zdat wrote:
it's true I'm an asshole. But I think his thinking is dangerous and should be fought with mockery. I'll try to stay away from here, but on the other hand, posting this thread in the first place is obvious gadfly bait and I think you shouldn't complain when gadflies arrive.

User was warned for this post





A bunch of other reported posts were non anctioned until

On October 05 2013 17:28 sam!zdat wrote:
you think the spiritual content of christianity is some ridiculous myth about how jesus is the son of god and is going to make you live forever because you believe this absurd thing? that's what you think is the sum total of the value of your tradition? god, that's so disrespectful

the historical context that you ignore is THE ENTIRE HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF THE ENTIRE ANCIENT WORLD

none of this stuff is real. if you are going to make it matter in the modern world, if you ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR FAITH, you are going to need to make it matter EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT REAL. otherwise it is useless and you are nothing but a delusional fanatic of a dying cult

User was temp banned for this post.





On October 31 2013 03:20 sam!zdat wrote:
nunc est futandum. Numquam cunctare uictoriam fecit. Aleam iacias, stulte! Nihil tibi quod amittas.

User was warned for this post

edit: lol that's dumb.





According to my research, sam sincerely believed that he was a good posters because a bunch of people were glad to have him back, despite his history of foul mannered posting. lol




Classic sam, adding insults to all of his posts when explaining something and being mostly right should have sufficed

On December 09 2013 07:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 07:57 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 07:54 sam!zdat wrote:
On December 09 2013 07:50 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 06:45 sam!zdat wrote:
financial crises are not prevalent in every social form, don't be thick. i'm not talking about all the sins of the human race here

rather than wasting time with inane cliches about human nature, why don't you put some effort into thinking about our problems and how we might go about solving them


Financial crisis is prevalent in every social form so far tried and likely in every probable social theory so far proposed.


haha ok mr anthropologist

how about before they invented financial instruments? lots of financial crises in those societies I bet


Trade has always happened... and even if there were no trade in those societies, you think we can go back to that? That's a laughable suggestion.


it's not a suggestion. I'm just saying that when you say "there have always been financial crises in every society" you are being stupid in a very obvious way





Bitcoins are a big deal apparently

On December 09 2013 07:54 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 07:50 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 06:45 sam!zdat wrote:
financial crises are not prevalent in every social form, don't be thick. i'm not talking about all the sins of the human race here

rather than wasting time with inane cliches about human nature, why don't you put some effort into thinking about our problems and how we might go about solving them


Financial crisis is prevalent in every social form so far tried and likely in every probable social theory so far proposed.


haha ok mr anthropologist

how about before they invented financial instruments? lots of financial crises in those societies I bet

but yeah you're right this conversation will likely not go anywhere. I'm sure whatever you do on a daily basis is very important and helpful for humanity

Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 07:52 Mstring wrote:
A super high quality good depreciates very slowly thus earning the producer a great deal of currency and costs the consumer very little to upkeep.


but then the producers go out of business because everybody already has their thing





This was a nice exchange:

On December 09 2013 05:31 Shival wrote:
That's not inherent to capitalism but rather of society itself. Communism has it fair share of shady dealings in history, not to mention economic collapse.


On December 09 2013 05:46 sam!zdat wrote:
ah yes, the two great options


On December 09 2013 06:05 Shival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 05:46 sam!zdat wrote:
ah yes, the two great options


Any great example that worked so far then? I dare say none have worked, and none will ever work unless you somehow manage to subdue human nature.


On December 09 2013 06:08 sam!zdat wrote:
you're right Mrs. Thatcher





By this point, he had accumulated 23 mod reports:

On January 12 2014 08:40 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 08:30 ziggurat wrote:
On January 12 2014 06:02 sam!zdat wrote:
gmos are only one facet of a deeply problematic regime of industrial agriculture, the problem here is just that the public discourse about it is myopic

is our agricultural production deeply fucked? yes. is it deeply fucked entirely and unequivocally because of gmo? no

edit: also, while I'm thinking about it, I want to address something from a couple of weeks ago. after some idiot banned me, most of the responses to me were based on mocking me for beliefs I do not hold (the main way that people respond to me here). I just want to put forth that I believe 100 percent in private property and that I think one of the main problems with our society today is that there is very little private property. a joint stock corporation is not private property, it is a form of absentee landlordism, which is the antithesis of private property. late capitalism is NOT a system based on private property, there is basically no private property in the capitalist system today. equities are not private property. your mortgaged house is not private property. securities are not private property. anyone who doesn't understand this is an idiot and needs to go read their adam smith

I don't think our agricultural production is fucked. I think it's amazing! We have more choice that at any time in history, and at lower prices than ever. There are just a lot of silly privileged people who have problems with it for various touchy-feely reasons which I personally don't care about.

Also, your talk about how there is very little private property these days is transparent nonsense.



it's not touchy feely reasons, it's deeply unsustainable and is operating on borrowed time.

i am not a touchy feely person, remember, I am a stalinist

as far as your last line, let me repeat: you are an idiot and need to go read your adam smith





These are merely the action'd posts that I could find in mod reports. He had a lot of other posts that were action'd before even being reported. It was his way to mingle insults and a foul superiority complex in all his posts. Intelligence does not excuse belligerence.

I refuse to believe someone like that could ever be described with the word "intelligent."
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 22 2014 04:40 GMT
#43490
On January 22 2014 11:17 lichter wrote:
Well since people don't seem to see why sam was banned, I decided to go through his reported posts:
+ Show Spoiler +




As a reply to a genuine Help thread in SC2 Strat:

On November 21 2011 13:03 sam!zdat wrote:
1: Make expansion
2: Defense it

User was warned for this post





In a blog that was entitled "1+1= -3" but had absolutely nothing to do with math:

On April 19 2012 01:55 sam!zdat wrote:
If you doubt that 1+1=2 I recommend this book: http://www.amazon.com/Principia-Mathematica-Volume-Set-1-3/dp/052106791X

User was temp banned for this post.





Apparently an insult:

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 02:51 xDaunt wrote:
On August 14 2012 02:43 sam!zdat wrote:
You are still assuming natural resources fall from the sky

there is not an identity between capacity for production and benefit to society

(and you spend all that effort doing something useless, when you could have been enjoying your life or becoming more educated. That would be good for society)


The problem with your argument is that we're not near the point where the natural resources of our planet will seriously constrain our growth to the point where capitalism is the zero-sum game that you're talking about.



How's the sand down there?

User was warned for this post





Still in the President Obama Re Elected thread:

we'll frighten them off with our faggotry

User was temp banned for this post.





US Politics megathread is a cesspool

On March 02 2013 06:31 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 06:15 LaughingTulkas wrote
You, and the poster above you, are making judgement calls about "what is reasonable" and applying it to both positions as if it is established fact.


fweeeeeeep! Meaningless relativism, ten yard penalty

User was warned for this post





Of course there was this famous quote from Globalization: the elephants in the room thread:

On March 16 2013 02:08 sam!zdat wrote:
everything you say is like a chimpanzee howlong in puerile triumph after discovering its first erection

User was temp banned for this post.





I have no idea what this means

On April 02 2013 06:21 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 06:18 Danglars wrote:
On April 02 2013 06:12 sam!zdat wrote:
On April 02 2013 05:55 Tobberoth wrote:
Still, comparing it to religion might be taking it a bit far.


walks like a religion, talks like a religion, promises immortality like a religion...

grand narratives are grand narratives, my friend, no bones about it

Yes. I am suggesting some introspection for the posters here. Step back and consider what you accuse every religion on the planet of doing. Now, look at what you're typing now, in this thread. Maybe your superiority over the blind faith masses isn't quite as stark as it would seem.


+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[image loading]


User was warned for this post

(edit: spoilered image)





That post came after this one, in Will Science unlock immortality

On April 02 2013 06:12 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 05:55 Tobberoth wrote:
Still, comparing it to religion might be taking it a bit far.


walks like a religion, talks like a religion, promises immortality like a religion...

grand narratives are grand narratives, my friend, no bones about it

edit: you can't use this "in the past, people would have been surprised at how things have changed, so now things are also going to keep changing."

what's going to REALLY surprise US is when things STOP changing. that would be the analogy here. "in the past, people used to think that they lived in a state of perpetual change. then it turned out that some things never change. surprise!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhDUuEWgMcA





Changed the text he quoted to antagonize

On April 12 2013 03:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 03:58 ThomasjServo wrote:
but at some point the cow that made your burger was tortured so you could have it. I eat meat and recognize this fact.


fixed it

User was warned for this post





This made me laugh when it was originally posted here:

On April 12 2013 04:49 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 04:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 12 2013 04:41 Barrin wrote:
FOLLOW THE MONEY

legislators
campaign contributions by public interest groups
public interest groups funded by big ag corps
big ag corps making money off consumer purchases
consumers.

fuck the consumers!


anyone who thinks of themselves as a "consumer" deserves to be fucked. what an undignified appellation

User was temp banned for this post.





In a thread trying to discuss faith and Christianity in IronManSC's blog

On September 19 2013 11:05 sam!zdat wrote:
jesus is clearly a queer, what else do you think that 'disciple whom jesus loved' stuff is about. The medievals knew it, ever see those paintings of the last supper and stuff with the prettyboy next to him?

User was warned for this post

edit: for the record 'queer' is not an offensive word, that's what the queers call themselves when they want to study queer things. I should know, I live with two of them.





US Politics megathread as usual:

On September 26 2013 11:47 sam!zdat wrote:
too liberal! Clintons just a bunch of running dog liberals like the rest of them! Fuck clintons and their dynastic ambition

User was warned for this post

I don't understand. I think I might be gone again soon guys. Have fun without me.





Back to IronManSC's blog, where he just couldn't stop posting despite...

On October 04 2013 07:48 sam!zdat wrote:
it's true I'm an asshole. But I think his thinking is dangerous and should be fought with mockery. I'll try to stay away from here, but on the other hand, posting this thread in the first place is obvious gadfly bait and I think you shouldn't complain when gadflies arrive.

User was warned for this post





A bunch of other reported posts were non anctioned until

On October 05 2013 17:28 sam!zdat wrote:
you think the spiritual content of christianity is some ridiculous myth about how jesus is the son of god and is going to make you live forever because you believe this absurd thing? that's what you think is the sum total of the value of your tradition? god, that's so disrespectful

the historical context that you ignore is THE ENTIRE HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF THE ENTIRE ANCIENT WORLD

none of this stuff is real. if you are going to make it matter in the modern world, if you ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR FAITH, you are going to need to make it matter EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT REAL. otherwise it is useless and you are nothing but a delusional fanatic of a dying cult

User was temp banned for this post.





On October 31 2013 03:20 sam!zdat wrote:
nunc est futandum. Numquam cunctare uictoriam fecit. Aleam iacias, stulte! Nihil tibi quod amittas.

User was warned for this post

edit: lol that's dumb.





According to my research, sam sincerely believed that he was a good posters because a bunch of people were glad to have him back, despite his history of foul mannered posting. lol




Classic sam, adding insults to all of his posts when explaining something and being mostly right should have sufficed

On December 09 2013 07:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 07:57 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 07:54 sam!zdat wrote:
On December 09 2013 07:50 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 06:45 sam!zdat wrote:
financial crises are not prevalent in every social form, don't be thick. i'm not talking about all the sins of the human race here

rather than wasting time with inane cliches about human nature, why don't you put some effort into thinking about our problems and how we might go about solving them


Financial crisis is prevalent in every social form so far tried and likely in every probable social theory so far proposed.


haha ok mr anthropologist

how about before they invented financial instruments? lots of financial crises in those societies I bet


Trade has always happened... and even if there were no trade in those societies, you think we can go back to that? That's a laughable suggestion.


it's not a suggestion. I'm just saying that when you say "there have always been financial crises in every society" you are being stupid in a very obvious way





Bitcoins are a big deal apparently

On December 09 2013 07:54 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 07:50 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 06:45 sam!zdat wrote:
financial crises are not prevalent in every social form, don't be thick. i'm not talking about all the sins of the human race here

rather than wasting time with inane cliches about human nature, why don't you put some effort into thinking about our problems and how we might go about solving them


Financial crisis is prevalent in every social form so far tried and likely in every probable social theory so far proposed.


haha ok mr anthropologist

how about before they invented financial instruments? lots of financial crises in those societies I bet

but yeah you're right this conversation will likely not go anywhere. I'm sure whatever you do on a daily basis is very important and helpful for humanity

Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 07:52 Mstring wrote:
A super high quality good depreciates very slowly thus earning the producer a great deal of currency and costs the consumer very little to upkeep.


but then the producers go out of business because everybody already has their thing





This was a nice exchange:

On December 09 2013 05:31 Shival wrote:
That's not inherent to capitalism but rather of society itself. Communism has it fair share of shady dealings in history, not to mention economic collapse.


On December 09 2013 05:46 sam!zdat wrote:
ah yes, the two great options


On December 09 2013 06:05 Shival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 05:46 sam!zdat wrote:
ah yes, the two great options


Any great example that worked so far then? I dare say none have worked, and none will ever work unless you somehow manage to subdue human nature.


On December 09 2013 06:08 sam!zdat wrote:
you're right Mrs. Thatcher





By this point, he had accumulated 23 mod reports:

On January 12 2014 08:40 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 08:30 ziggurat wrote:
On January 12 2014 06:02 sam!zdat wrote:
gmos are only one facet of a deeply problematic regime of industrial agriculture, the problem here is just that the public discourse about it is myopic

is our agricultural production deeply fucked? yes. is it deeply fucked entirely and unequivocally because of gmo? no

edit: also, while I'm thinking about it, I want to address something from a couple of weeks ago. after some idiot banned me, most of the responses to me were based on mocking me for beliefs I do not hold (the main way that people respond to me here). I just want to put forth that I believe 100 percent in private property and that I think one of the main problems with our society today is that there is very little private property. a joint stock corporation is not private property, it is a form of absentee landlordism, which is the antithesis of private property. late capitalism is NOT a system based on private property, there is basically no private property in the capitalist system today. equities are not private property. your mortgaged house is not private property. securities are not private property. anyone who doesn't understand this is an idiot and needs to go read their adam smith

I don't think our agricultural production is fucked. I think it's amazing! We have more choice that at any time in history, and at lower prices than ever. There are just a lot of silly privileged people who have problems with it for various touchy-feely reasons which I personally don't care about.

Also, your talk about how there is very little private property these days is transparent nonsense.



it's not touchy feely reasons, it's deeply unsustainable and is operating on borrowed time.

i am not a touchy feely person, remember, I am a stalinist

as far as your last line, let me repeat: you are an idiot and need to go read your adam smith





These are merely the action'd posts that I could find in mod reports. He had a lot of other posts that were action'd before even being reported. It was his way to mingle insults and a foul superiority complex in all his posts. Intelligence does not excuse belligerence.

wow, that's quite the mod history. I can never understand people who feel the need to insult over anything. Being right or wrong doesn't exclude you from a ban if you disrespect another forum member. I'm surprised he wasn't permed much sooner tbh.
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packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
January 22 2014 04:41 GMT
#43491
On January 22 2014 13:40 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 11:17 lichter wrote:
Well since people don't seem to see why sam was banned, I decided to go through his reported posts:
+ Show Spoiler +




As a reply to a genuine Help thread in SC2 Strat:

On November 21 2011 13:03 sam!zdat wrote:
1: Make expansion
2: Defense it

User was warned for this post





In a blog that was entitled "1+1= -3" but had absolutely nothing to do with math:

On April 19 2012 01:55 sam!zdat wrote:
If you doubt that 1+1=2 I recommend this book: http://www.amazon.com/Principia-Mathematica-Volume-Set-1-3/dp/052106791X

User was temp banned for this post.





Apparently an insult:

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 02:51 xDaunt wrote:
On August 14 2012 02:43 sam!zdat wrote:
You are still assuming natural resources fall from the sky

there is not an identity between capacity for production and benefit to society

(and you spend all that effort doing something useless, when you could have been enjoying your life or becoming more educated. That would be good for society)


The problem with your argument is that we're not near the point where the natural resources of our planet will seriously constrain our growth to the point where capitalism is the zero-sum game that you're talking about.



How's the sand down there?

User was warned for this post





Still in the President Obama Re Elected thread:

we'll frighten them off with our faggotry

User was temp banned for this post.





US Politics megathread is a cesspool

On March 02 2013 06:31 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 06:15 LaughingTulkas wrote
You, and the poster above you, are making judgement calls about "what is reasonable" and applying it to both positions as if it is established fact.


fweeeeeeep! Meaningless relativism, ten yard penalty

User was warned for this post





Of course there was this famous quote from Globalization: the elephants in the room thread:

On March 16 2013 02:08 sam!zdat wrote:
everything you say is like a chimpanzee howlong in puerile triumph after discovering its first erection

User was temp banned for this post.





I have no idea what this means

On April 02 2013 06:21 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 06:18 Danglars wrote:
On April 02 2013 06:12 sam!zdat wrote:
On April 02 2013 05:55 Tobberoth wrote:
Still, comparing it to religion might be taking it a bit far.


walks like a religion, talks like a religion, promises immortality like a religion...

grand narratives are grand narratives, my friend, no bones about it

Yes. I am suggesting some introspection for the posters here. Step back and consider what you accuse every religion on the planet of doing. Now, look at what you're typing now, in this thread. Maybe your superiority over the blind faith masses isn't quite as stark as it would seem.


+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[image loading]


User was warned for this post

(edit: spoilered image)





That post came after this one, in Will Science unlock immortality

On April 02 2013 06:12 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 05:55 Tobberoth wrote:
Still, comparing it to religion might be taking it a bit far.


walks like a religion, talks like a religion, promises immortality like a religion...

grand narratives are grand narratives, my friend, no bones about it

edit: you can't use this "in the past, people would have been surprised at how things have changed, so now things are also going to keep changing."

what's going to REALLY surprise US is when things STOP changing. that would be the analogy here. "in the past, people used to think that they lived in a state of perpetual change. then it turned out that some things never change. surprise!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhDUuEWgMcA





Changed the text he quoted to antagonize

On April 12 2013 03:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 03:58 ThomasjServo wrote:
but at some point the cow that made your burger was tortured so you could have it. I eat meat and recognize this fact.


fixed it

User was warned for this post





This made me laugh when it was originally posted here:

On April 12 2013 04:49 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 04:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 12 2013 04:41 Barrin wrote:
FOLLOW THE MONEY

legislators
campaign contributions by public interest groups
public interest groups funded by big ag corps
big ag corps making money off consumer purchases
consumers.

fuck the consumers!


anyone who thinks of themselves as a "consumer" deserves to be fucked. what an undignified appellation

User was temp banned for this post.





In a thread trying to discuss faith and Christianity in IronManSC's blog

On September 19 2013 11:05 sam!zdat wrote:
jesus is clearly a queer, what else do you think that 'disciple whom jesus loved' stuff is about. The medievals knew it, ever see those paintings of the last supper and stuff with the prettyboy next to him?

User was warned for this post

edit: for the record 'queer' is not an offensive word, that's what the queers call themselves when they want to study queer things. I should know, I live with two of them.





US Politics megathread as usual:

On September 26 2013 11:47 sam!zdat wrote:
too liberal! Clintons just a bunch of running dog liberals like the rest of them! Fuck clintons and their dynastic ambition

User was warned for this post

I don't understand. I think I might be gone again soon guys. Have fun without me.





Back to IronManSC's blog, where he just couldn't stop posting despite...

On October 04 2013 07:48 sam!zdat wrote:
it's true I'm an asshole. But I think his thinking is dangerous and should be fought with mockery. I'll try to stay away from here, but on the other hand, posting this thread in the first place is obvious gadfly bait and I think you shouldn't complain when gadflies arrive.

User was warned for this post





A bunch of other reported posts were non anctioned until

On October 05 2013 17:28 sam!zdat wrote:
you think the spiritual content of christianity is some ridiculous myth about how jesus is the son of god and is going to make you live forever because you believe this absurd thing? that's what you think is the sum total of the value of your tradition? god, that's so disrespectful

the historical context that you ignore is THE ENTIRE HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF THE ENTIRE ANCIENT WORLD

none of this stuff is real. if you are going to make it matter in the modern world, if you ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR FAITH, you are going to need to make it matter EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT REAL. otherwise it is useless and you are nothing but a delusional fanatic of a dying cult

User was temp banned for this post.





On October 31 2013 03:20 sam!zdat wrote:
nunc est futandum. Numquam cunctare uictoriam fecit. Aleam iacias, stulte! Nihil tibi quod amittas.

User was warned for this post

edit: lol that's dumb.





According to my research, sam sincerely believed that he was a good posters because a bunch of people were glad to have him back, despite his history of foul mannered posting. lol




Classic sam, adding insults to all of his posts when explaining something and being mostly right should have sufficed

On December 09 2013 07:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 07:57 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 07:54 sam!zdat wrote:
On December 09 2013 07:50 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 06:45 sam!zdat wrote:
financial crises are not prevalent in every social form, don't be thick. i'm not talking about all the sins of the human race here

rather than wasting time with inane cliches about human nature, why don't you put some effort into thinking about our problems and how we might go about solving them


Financial crisis is prevalent in every social form so far tried and likely in every probable social theory so far proposed.


haha ok mr anthropologist

how about before they invented financial instruments? lots of financial crises in those societies I bet


Trade has always happened... and even if there were no trade in those societies, you think we can go back to that? That's a laughable suggestion.


it's not a suggestion. I'm just saying that when you say "there have always been financial crises in every society" you are being stupid in a very obvious way





Bitcoins are a big deal apparently

On December 09 2013 07:54 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 07:50 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 06:45 sam!zdat wrote:
financial crises are not prevalent in every social form, don't be thick. i'm not talking about all the sins of the human race here

rather than wasting time with inane cliches about human nature, why don't you put some effort into thinking about our problems and how we might go about solving them


Financial crisis is prevalent in every social form so far tried and likely in every probable social theory so far proposed.


haha ok mr anthropologist

how about before they invented financial instruments? lots of financial crises in those societies I bet

but yeah you're right this conversation will likely not go anywhere. I'm sure whatever you do on a daily basis is very important and helpful for humanity

Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 07:52 Mstring wrote:
A super high quality good depreciates very slowly thus earning the producer a great deal of currency and costs the consumer very little to upkeep.


but then the producers go out of business because everybody already has their thing





This was a nice exchange:

On December 09 2013 05:31 Shival wrote:
That's not inherent to capitalism but rather of society itself. Communism has it fair share of shady dealings in history, not to mention economic collapse.


On December 09 2013 05:46 sam!zdat wrote:
ah yes, the two great options


On December 09 2013 06:05 Shival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 05:46 sam!zdat wrote:
ah yes, the two great options


Any great example that worked so far then? I dare say none have worked, and none will ever work unless you somehow manage to subdue human nature.


On December 09 2013 06:08 sam!zdat wrote:
you're right Mrs. Thatcher





By this point, he had accumulated 23 mod reports:

On January 12 2014 08:40 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 08:30 ziggurat wrote:
On January 12 2014 06:02 sam!zdat wrote:
gmos are only one facet of a deeply problematic regime of industrial agriculture, the problem here is just that the public discourse about it is myopic

is our agricultural production deeply fucked? yes. is it deeply fucked entirely and unequivocally because of gmo? no

edit: also, while I'm thinking about it, I want to address something from a couple of weeks ago. after some idiot banned me, most of the responses to me were based on mocking me for beliefs I do not hold (the main way that people respond to me here). I just want to put forth that I believe 100 percent in private property and that I think one of the main problems with our society today is that there is very little private property. a joint stock corporation is not private property, it is a form of absentee landlordism, which is the antithesis of private property. late capitalism is NOT a system based on private property, there is basically no private property in the capitalist system today. equities are not private property. your mortgaged house is not private property. securities are not private property. anyone who doesn't understand this is an idiot and needs to go read their adam smith

I don't think our agricultural production is fucked. I think it's amazing! We have more choice that at any time in history, and at lower prices than ever. There are just a lot of silly privileged people who have problems with it for various touchy-feely reasons which I personally don't care about.

Also, your talk about how there is very little private property these days is transparent nonsense.



it's not touchy feely reasons, it's deeply unsustainable and is operating on borrowed time.

i am not a touchy feely person, remember, I am a stalinist

as far as your last line, let me repeat: you are an idiot and need to go read your adam smith





These are merely the action'd posts that I could find in mod reports. He had a lot of other posts that were action'd before even being reported. It was his way to mingle insults and a foul superiority complex in all his posts. Intelligence does not excuse belligerence.

wow, that's quite the mod history. I can never understand people who feel the need to insult over anything. Being right or wrong doesn't exclude you from a ban if you disrespect another forum member. I'm surprised he wasn't permed much sooner tbh.

He got a 90 day a while back, requested a perm, and then later decided to come back to TL. I think this was his final form.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 22 2014 04:50 GMT
#43492
On January 22 2014 13:41 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 13:40 BigFan wrote:
On January 22 2014 11:17 lichter wrote:
Well since people don't seem to see why sam was banned, I decided to go through his reported posts:
+ Show Spoiler +




As a reply to a genuine Help thread in SC2 Strat:

On November 21 2011 13:03 sam!zdat wrote:
1: Make expansion
2: Defense it

User was warned for this post





In a blog that was entitled "1+1= -3" but had absolutely nothing to do with math:

On April 19 2012 01:55 sam!zdat wrote:
If you doubt that 1+1=2 I recommend this book: http://www.amazon.com/Principia-Mathematica-Volume-Set-1-3/dp/052106791X

User was temp banned for this post.





Apparently an insult:

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 02:51 xDaunt wrote:
On August 14 2012 02:43 sam!zdat wrote:
You are still assuming natural resources fall from the sky

there is not an identity between capacity for production and benefit to society

(and you spend all that effort doing something useless, when you could have been enjoying your life or becoming more educated. That would be good for society)


The problem with your argument is that we're not near the point where the natural resources of our planet will seriously constrain our growth to the point where capitalism is the zero-sum game that you're talking about.



How's the sand down there?

User was warned for this post





Still in the President Obama Re Elected thread:

we'll frighten them off with our faggotry

User was temp banned for this post.





US Politics megathread is a cesspool

On March 02 2013 06:31 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 06:15 LaughingTulkas wrote
You, and the poster above you, are making judgement calls about "what is reasonable" and applying it to both positions as if it is established fact.


fweeeeeeep! Meaningless relativism, ten yard penalty

User was warned for this post





Of course there was this famous quote from Globalization: the elephants in the room thread:

On March 16 2013 02:08 sam!zdat wrote:
everything you say is like a chimpanzee howlong in puerile triumph after discovering its first erection

User was temp banned for this post.





I have no idea what this means

On April 02 2013 06:21 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 06:18 Danglars wrote:
On April 02 2013 06:12 sam!zdat wrote:
On April 02 2013 05:55 Tobberoth wrote:
Still, comparing it to religion might be taking it a bit far.


walks like a religion, talks like a religion, promises immortality like a religion...

grand narratives are grand narratives, my friend, no bones about it

Yes. I am suggesting some introspection for the posters here. Step back and consider what you accuse every religion on the planet of doing. Now, look at what you're typing now, in this thread. Maybe your superiority over the blind faith masses isn't quite as stark as it would seem.


+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[image loading]


User was warned for this post

(edit: spoilered image)





That post came after this one, in Will Science unlock immortality

On April 02 2013 06:12 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 05:55 Tobberoth wrote:
Still, comparing it to religion might be taking it a bit far.


walks like a religion, talks like a religion, promises immortality like a religion...

grand narratives are grand narratives, my friend, no bones about it

edit: you can't use this "in the past, people would have been surprised at how things have changed, so now things are also going to keep changing."

what's going to REALLY surprise US is when things STOP changing. that would be the analogy here. "in the past, people used to think that they lived in a state of perpetual change. then it turned out that some things never change. surprise!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhDUuEWgMcA





Changed the text he quoted to antagonize

On April 12 2013 03:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 03:58 ThomasjServo wrote:
but at some point the cow that made your burger was tortured so you could have it. I eat meat and recognize this fact.


fixed it

User was warned for this post





This made me laugh when it was originally posted here:

On April 12 2013 04:49 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 04:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 12 2013 04:41 Barrin wrote:
FOLLOW THE MONEY

legislators
campaign contributions by public interest groups
public interest groups funded by big ag corps
big ag corps making money off consumer purchases
consumers.

fuck the consumers!


anyone who thinks of themselves as a "consumer" deserves to be fucked. what an undignified appellation

User was temp banned for this post.





In a thread trying to discuss faith and Christianity in IronManSC's blog

On September 19 2013 11:05 sam!zdat wrote:
jesus is clearly a queer, what else do you think that 'disciple whom jesus loved' stuff is about. The medievals knew it, ever see those paintings of the last supper and stuff with the prettyboy next to him?

User was warned for this post

edit: for the record 'queer' is not an offensive word, that's what the queers call themselves when they want to study queer things. I should know, I live with two of them.





US Politics megathread as usual:

On September 26 2013 11:47 sam!zdat wrote:
too liberal! Clintons just a bunch of running dog liberals like the rest of them! Fuck clintons and their dynastic ambition

User was warned for this post

I don't understand. I think I might be gone again soon guys. Have fun without me.





Back to IronManSC's blog, where he just couldn't stop posting despite...

On October 04 2013 07:48 sam!zdat wrote:
it's true I'm an asshole. But I think his thinking is dangerous and should be fought with mockery. I'll try to stay away from here, but on the other hand, posting this thread in the first place is obvious gadfly bait and I think you shouldn't complain when gadflies arrive.

User was warned for this post





A bunch of other reported posts were non anctioned until

On October 05 2013 17:28 sam!zdat wrote:
you think the spiritual content of christianity is some ridiculous myth about how jesus is the son of god and is going to make you live forever because you believe this absurd thing? that's what you think is the sum total of the value of your tradition? god, that's so disrespectful

the historical context that you ignore is THE ENTIRE HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF THE ENTIRE ANCIENT WORLD

none of this stuff is real. if you are going to make it matter in the modern world, if you ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR FAITH, you are going to need to make it matter EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT REAL. otherwise it is useless and you are nothing but a delusional fanatic of a dying cult

User was temp banned for this post.





On October 31 2013 03:20 sam!zdat wrote:
nunc est futandum. Numquam cunctare uictoriam fecit. Aleam iacias, stulte! Nihil tibi quod amittas.

User was warned for this post

edit: lol that's dumb.





According to my research, sam sincerely believed that he was a good posters because a bunch of people were glad to have him back, despite his history of foul mannered posting. lol




Classic sam, adding insults to all of his posts when explaining something and being mostly right should have sufficed

On December 09 2013 07:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 07:57 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 07:54 sam!zdat wrote:
On December 09 2013 07:50 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 06:45 sam!zdat wrote:
financial crises are not prevalent in every social form, don't be thick. i'm not talking about all the sins of the human race here

rather than wasting time with inane cliches about human nature, why don't you put some effort into thinking about our problems and how we might go about solving them


Financial crisis is prevalent in every social form so far tried and likely in every probable social theory so far proposed.


haha ok mr anthropologist

how about before they invented financial instruments? lots of financial crises in those societies I bet


Trade has always happened... and even if there were no trade in those societies, you think we can go back to that? That's a laughable suggestion.


it's not a suggestion. I'm just saying that when you say "there have always been financial crises in every society" you are being stupid in a very obvious way





Bitcoins are a big deal apparently

On December 09 2013 07:54 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 07:50 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 06:45 sam!zdat wrote:
financial crises are not prevalent in every social form, don't be thick. i'm not talking about all the sins of the human race here

rather than wasting time with inane cliches about human nature, why don't you put some effort into thinking about our problems and how we might go about solving them


Financial crisis is prevalent in every social form so far tried and likely in every probable social theory so far proposed.


haha ok mr anthropologist

how about before they invented financial instruments? lots of financial crises in those societies I bet

but yeah you're right this conversation will likely not go anywhere. I'm sure whatever you do on a daily basis is very important and helpful for humanity

Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 07:52 Mstring wrote:
A super high quality good depreciates very slowly thus earning the producer a great deal of currency and costs the consumer very little to upkeep.


but then the producers go out of business because everybody already has their thing





This was a nice exchange:

On December 09 2013 05:31 Shival wrote:
That's not inherent to capitalism but rather of society itself. Communism has it fair share of shady dealings in history, not to mention economic collapse.


On December 09 2013 05:46 sam!zdat wrote:
ah yes, the two great options


On December 09 2013 06:05 Shival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 05:46 sam!zdat wrote:
ah yes, the two great options


Any great example that worked so far then? I dare say none have worked, and none will ever work unless you somehow manage to subdue human nature.


On December 09 2013 06:08 sam!zdat wrote:
you're right Mrs. Thatcher





By this point, he had accumulated 23 mod reports:

On January 12 2014 08:40 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 08:30 ziggurat wrote:
On January 12 2014 06:02 sam!zdat wrote:
gmos are only one facet of a deeply problematic regime of industrial agriculture, the problem here is just that the public discourse about it is myopic

is our agricultural production deeply fucked? yes. is it deeply fucked entirely and unequivocally because of gmo? no

edit: also, while I'm thinking about it, I want to address something from a couple of weeks ago. after some idiot banned me, most of the responses to me were based on mocking me for beliefs I do not hold (the main way that people respond to me here). I just want to put forth that I believe 100 percent in private property and that I think one of the main problems with our society today is that there is very little private property. a joint stock corporation is not private property, it is a form of absentee landlordism, which is the antithesis of private property. late capitalism is NOT a system based on private property, there is basically no private property in the capitalist system today. equities are not private property. your mortgaged house is not private property. securities are not private property. anyone who doesn't understand this is an idiot and needs to go read their adam smith

I don't think our agricultural production is fucked. I think it's amazing! We have more choice that at any time in history, and at lower prices than ever. There are just a lot of silly privileged people who have problems with it for various touchy-feely reasons which I personally don't care about.

Also, your talk about how there is very little private property these days is transparent nonsense.



it's not touchy feely reasons, it's deeply unsustainable and is operating on borrowed time.

i am not a touchy feely person, remember, I am a stalinist

as far as your last line, let me repeat: you are an idiot and need to go read your adam smith





These are merely the action'd posts that I could find in mod reports. He had a lot of other posts that were action'd before even being reported. It was his way to mingle insults and a foul superiority complex in all his posts. Intelligence does not excuse belligerence.

wow, that's quite the mod history. I can never understand people who feel the need to insult over anything. Being right or wrong doesn't exclude you from a ban if you disrespect another forum member. I'm surprised he wasn't permed much sooner tbh.

He got a 90 day a while back, requested a perm, and then later decided to come back to TL. I think this was his final form.

it's not even that though. If you want to post and make it sound complicated or intelligent, by all means go ahead and present your point in any way you like but there is never a need to insult someone over something. Aside from that, some of his posts like in the TL strat section are poorly done. Not sure what he was expecting considering you can't just write bad posts in the strat section and get away with it. I dunno, just seems odd that he does this especially after he decided to come back from his perm request that you mentioned. My thoughts at least
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6189 Posts
January 22 2014 04:52 GMT
#43493
46 new replies when i woke up. I didn't really think more could happen in one day.
That nunez martyr hahaha. I will miss sam to a degree. I enjoyed reading his posts, however bad they are.
<3
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 22 2014 05:03 GMT
#43494
On January 22 2014 13:20 DeepElemBlues wrote:
this bad psychoanalysis will surely only fuel sam's sense of alienation from the lumpenproletariat that you all wallow in with the rest of us consumerist wreckers

but seriously if you believe this crap about sam posturing... sam is a true believer sam is an old testament prophet trapped in a world where the idolaters have won you guys are way off on what you're saying

you know him in real life?
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 05:16:22
January 22 2014 05:16 GMT
#43495
i know his terrible secret well no not really or at all
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
January 22 2014 05:17 GMT
#43496
Sam is most definitely not posturing, he's just sharp.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 22 2014 05:31 GMT
#43497
On January 22 2014 13:52 dravernor wrote:
46 new replies when i woke up. I didn't really think more could happen in one day.
That nunez martyr hahaha. I will miss sam to a degree. I enjoyed reading his posts, however bad they are.

this thread has been dead for the last week or so until this last string of bans. The martyr was funny though lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
January 22 2014 06:08 GMT
#43498
On January 22 2014 13:50 BigFan wrote:
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On January 22 2014 13:41 packrat386 wrote:
On January 22 2014 13:40 BigFan wrote:
On January 22 2014 11:17 lichter wrote:
Well since people don't seem to see why sam was banned, I decided to go through his reported posts:
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As a reply to a genuine Help thread in SC2 Strat:

On November 21 2011 13:03 sam!zdat wrote:
1: Make expansion
2: Defense it

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In a blog that was entitled "1+1= -3" but had absolutely nothing to do with math:

On April 19 2012 01:55 sam!zdat wrote:
If you doubt that 1+1=2 I recommend this book: http://www.amazon.com/Principia-Mathematica-Volume-Set-1-3/dp/052106791X

User was temp banned for this post.





Apparently an insult:

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On August 14 2012 02:51 xDaunt wrote:
On August 14 2012 02:43 sam!zdat wrote:
You are still assuming natural resources fall from the sky

there is not an identity between capacity for production and benefit to society

(and you spend all that effort doing something useless, when you could have been enjoying your life or becoming more educated. That would be good for society)


The problem with your argument is that we're not near the point where the natural resources of our planet will seriously constrain our growth to the point where capitalism is the zero-sum game that you're talking about.



How's the sand down there?

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Still in the President Obama Re Elected thread:

we'll frighten them off with our faggotry

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US Politics megathread is a cesspool

On March 02 2013 06:31 sam!zdat wrote:
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On March 02 2013 06:15 LaughingTulkas wrote
You, and the poster above you, are making judgement calls about "what is reasonable" and applying it to both positions as if it is established fact.


fweeeeeeep! Meaningless relativism, ten yard penalty

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Of course there was this famous quote from Globalization: the elephants in the room thread:

On March 16 2013 02:08 sam!zdat wrote:
everything you say is like a chimpanzee howlong in puerile triumph after discovering its first erection

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I have no idea what this means

On April 02 2013 06:21 sam!zdat wrote:
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On April 02 2013 06:18 Danglars wrote:
On April 02 2013 06:12 sam!zdat wrote:
On April 02 2013 05:55 Tobberoth wrote:
Still, comparing it to religion might be taking it a bit far.


walks like a religion, talks like a religion, promises immortality like a religion...

grand narratives are grand narratives, my friend, no bones about it

Yes. I am suggesting some introspection for the posters here. Step back and consider what you accuse every religion on the planet of doing. Now, look at what you're typing now, in this thread. Maybe your superiority over the blind faith masses isn't quite as stark as it would seem.


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That post came after this one, in Will Science unlock immortality

On April 02 2013 06:12 sam!zdat wrote:
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On April 02 2013 05:55 Tobberoth wrote:
Still, comparing it to religion might be taking it a bit far.


walks like a religion, talks like a religion, promises immortality like a religion...

grand narratives are grand narratives, my friend, no bones about it

edit: you can't use this "in the past, people would have been surprised at how things have changed, so now things are also going to keep changing."

what's going to REALLY surprise US is when things STOP changing. that would be the analogy here. "in the past, people used to think that they lived in a state of perpetual change. then it turned out that some things never change. surprise!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhDUuEWgMcA





Changed the text he quoted to antagonize

On April 12 2013 03:58 sam!zdat wrote:
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On April 12 2013 03:58 ThomasjServo wrote:
but at some point the cow that made your burger was tortured so you could have it. I eat meat and recognize this fact.


fixed it

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This made me laugh when it was originally posted here:

On April 12 2013 04:49 sam!zdat wrote:
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On April 12 2013 04:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 12 2013 04:41 Barrin wrote:
FOLLOW THE MONEY

legislators
campaign contributions by public interest groups
public interest groups funded by big ag corps
big ag corps making money off consumer purchases
consumers.

fuck the consumers!


anyone who thinks of themselves as a "consumer" deserves to be fucked. what an undignified appellation

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In a thread trying to discuss faith and Christianity in IronManSC's blog

On September 19 2013 11:05 sam!zdat wrote:
jesus is clearly a queer, what else do you think that 'disciple whom jesus loved' stuff is about. The medievals knew it, ever see those paintings of the last supper and stuff with the prettyboy next to him?

User was warned for this post

edit: for the record 'queer' is not an offensive word, that's what the queers call themselves when they want to study queer things. I should know, I live with two of them.





US Politics megathread as usual:

On September 26 2013 11:47 sam!zdat wrote:
too liberal! Clintons just a bunch of running dog liberals like the rest of them! Fuck clintons and their dynastic ambition

User was warned for this post

I don't understand. I think I might be gone again soon guys. Have fun without me.





Back to IronManSC's blog, where he just couldn't stop posting despite...

On October 04 2013 07:48 sam!zdat wrote:
it's true I'm an asshole. But I think his thinking is dangerous and should be fought with mockery. I'll try to stay away from here, but on the other hand, posting this thread in the first place is obvious gadfly bait and I think you shouldn't complain when gadflies arrive.

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A bunch of other reported posts were non anctioned until

On October 05 2013 17:28 sam!zdat wrote:
you think the spiritual content of christianity is some ridiculous myth about how jesus is the son of god and is going to make you live forever because you believe this absurd thing? that's what you think is the sum total of the value of your tradition? god, that's so disrespectful

the historical context that you ignore is THE ENTIRE HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF THE ENTIRE ANCIENT WORLD

none of this stuff is real. if you are going to make it matter in the modern world, if you ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR FAITH, you are going to need to make it matter EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT REAL. otherwise it is useless and you are nothing but a delusional fanatic of a dying cult

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On October 31 2013 03:20 sam!zdat wrote:
nunc est futandum. Numquam cunctare uictoriam fecit. Aleam iacias, stulte! Nihil tibi quod amittas.

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edit: lol that's dumb.





According to my research, sam sincerely believed that he was a good posters because a bunch of people were glad to have him back, despite his history of foul mannered posting. lol




Classic sam, adding insults to all of his posts when explaining something and being mostly right should have sufficed

On December 09 2013 07:58 sam!zdat wrote:
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On December 09 2013 07:57 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 07:54 sam!zdat wrote:
On December 09 2013 07:50 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 06:45 sam!zdat wrote:
financial crises are not prevalent in every social form, don't be thick. i'm not talking about all the sins of the human race here

rather than wasting time with inane cliches about human nature, why don't you put some effort into thinking about our problems and how we might go about solving them


Financial crisis is prevalent in every social form so far tried and likely in every probable social theory so far proposed.


haha ok mr anthropologist

how about before they invented financial instruments? lots of financial crises in those societies I bet


Trade has always happened... and even if there were no trade in those societies, you think we can go back to that? That's a laughable suggestion.


it's not a suggestion. I'm just saying that when you say "there have always been financial crises in every society" you are being stupid in a very obvious way





Bitcoins are a big deal apparently

On December 09 2013 07:54 sam!zdat wrote:
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On December 09 2013 07:50 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 06:45 sam!zdat wrote:
financial crises are not prevalent in every social form, don't be thick. i'm not talking about all the sins of the human race here

rather than wasting time with inane cliches about human nature, why don't you put some effort into thinking about our problems and how we might go about solving them


Financial crisis is prevalent in every social form so far tried and likely in every probable social theory so far proposed.


haha ok mr anthropologist

how about before they invented financial instruments? lots of financial crises in those societies I bet

but yeah you're right this conversation will likely not go anywhere. I'm sure whatever you do on a daily basis is very important and helpful for humanity

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On December 09 2013 07:52 Mstring wrote:
A super high quality good depreciates very slowly thus earning the producer a great deal of currency and costs the consumer very little to upkeep.


but then the producers go out of business because everybody already has their thing





This was a nice exchange:

On December 09 2013 05:31 Shival wrote:
That's not inherent to capitalism but rather of society itself. Communism has it fair share of shady dealings in history, not to mention economic collapse.


On December 09 2013 05:46 sam!zdat wrote:
ah yes, the two great options


On December 09 2013 06:05 Shival wrote:
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On December 09 2013 05:46 sam!zdat wrote:
ah yes, the two great options


Any great example that worked so far then? I dare say none have worked, and none will ever work unless you somehow manage to subdue human nature.


On December 09 2013 06:08 sam!zdat wrote:
you're right Mrs. Thatcher





By this point, he had accumulated 23 mod reports:

On January 12 2014 08:40 sam!zdat wrote:
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On January 12 2014 08:30 ziggurat wrote:
On January 12 2014 06:02 sam!zdat wrote:
gmos are only one facet of a deeply problematic regime of industrial agriculture, the problem here is just that the public discourse about it is myopic

is our agricultural production deeply fucked? yes. is it deeply fucked entirely and unequivocally because of gmo? no

edit: also, while I'm thinking about it, I want to address something from a couple of weeks ago. after some idiot banned me, most of the responses to me were based on mocking me for beliefs I do not hold (the main way that people respond to me here). I just want to put forth that I believe 100 percent in private property and that I think one of the main problems with our society today is that there is very little private property. a joint stock corporation is not private property, it is a form of absentee landlordism, which is the antithesis of private property. late capitalism is NOT a system based on private property, there is basically no private property in the capitalist system today. equities are not private property. your mortgaged house is not private property. securities are not private property. anyone who doesn't understand this is an idiot and needs to go read their adam smith

I don't think our agricultural production is fucked. I think it's amazing! We have more choice that at any time in history, and at lower prices than ever. There are just a lot of silly privileged people who have problems with it for various touchy-feely reasons which I personally don't care about.

Also, your talk about how there is very little private property these days is transparent nonsense.



it's not touchy feely reasons, it's deeply unsustainable and is operating on borrowed time.

i am not a touchy feely person, remember, I am a stalinist

as far as your last line, let me repeat: you are an idiot and need to go read your adam smith





These are merely the action'd posts that I could find in mod reports. He had a lot of other posts that were action'd before even being reported. It was his way to mingle insults and a foul superiority complex in all his posts. Intelligence does not excuse belligerence.

wow, that's quite the mod history. I can never understand people who feel the need to insult over anything. Being right or wrong doesn't exclude you from a ban if you disrespect another forum member. I'm surprised he wasn't permed much sooner tbh.

He got a 90 day a while back, requested a perm, and then later decided to come back to TL. I think this was his final form.

it's not even that though. If you want to post and make it sound complicated or intelligent, by all means go ahead and present your point in any way you like but there is never a need to insult someone over something. Aside from that, some of his posts like in the TL strat section are poorly done. Not sure what he was expecting considering you can't just write bad posts in the strat section and get away with it. I dunno, just seems odd that he does this especially after he decided to come back from his perm request that you mentioned. My thoughts at least

I was trying to answer your question of "why hasn't he been permed yet" since the answer was that he sort of already was. He came back after a period of time (as veterans do occasionally) and eventually got permed for real.
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
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January 22 2014 06:25 GMT
#43499
When I first saw sam post (during the beginnings of the Election thread), his posts were really thought provoking and in line with TL's standards. However, it seems the more he had to deal with the same modes of thought that many TLers share, the more impatient and frustrated he got, especially so since he had to repeat himself numerous times. I understand completely, since I was in the same boat as him, but sam chose to continue posting while I chose to stop retreading the same ol' arguments and just ignored people, since I knew it would do no one any good (especially myself) even if I were to continue pushing my opinions. Though in sam's case, his posts did do some readers some good I'm sure (I know I learned a lot from him).

But yeah, since sam couldn't stop debating with those who constantly frustrated him out of his own volition, I guess this was the reasonable action. Maybe not dealing with those people will calm him a bit. I know it's done a world of wonders for me.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
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Last Edited: 2014-01-22 06:33:11
January 22 2014 06:30 GMT
#43500
On January 22 2014 13:20 DeepElemBlues wrote:
this bad psychoanalysis will surely only fuel sam's sense of alienation from the lumpenproletariat that you all wallow in with the rest of us consumerist wreckers

but seriously if you believe this crap about sam posturing... sam is a true believer sam is an old testament prophet trapped in a world where the idolaters have won you guys are way off on what you're saying

Well, he's tried to psychoanalyze me before, so I think I shall reserve the right to do the same to him.

On January 22 2014 14:17 farvacola wrote:
Sam is most definitely not posturing, he's just sharp.

Given that you actually know him, I'll defer to you. (I do remember him saying once that he thinks being a personality is important in academia, which is what led me to think it may be the case. And, well, usually when people keep touching a stove like that even after being burned 20 some times, something is certainly off.)

I mean, all of it unfortunately leaves me with the impression that he either lacks self-restraint, can't detect tone very well, or is stupid. None of these paints a particularly good image of him. I just find it fascinating (in a train wreck sort of way) that he can get so many warnings and not correct his behavior if he truly wanted to stick around TL in the first place.
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