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JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 20:26:27
May 12 2012 20:26 GMT
#21501
On May 13 2012 04:36 Synwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 03:09 beetlelisk wrote:
On May 13 2012 03:05 Cokefreak wrote:
Lorch was just temp banned for 2 days by GMarshal.

That account was created on 2011-06-27 17:58:17 and had 1232 posts.

Reason: I only read the part where you said you were going to be banned. Martyring = instant ban.

How does someone that's been here for almost a year not know what martyring results into ._. but I guess he was trying to use it to prove his point as demonstrated below.
On May 13 2012 02:34 Lorch wrote:
The fact that JP was warned for his post on tl is such a fucking joke, I feel like the tl dictatorship needs to loosen up a bit and not run around banning/warning for totally retarded reasons.

Other than that I feel really bad for JP. He just wanted to allow the community to ask sundance some questions about this huge announcement, personally I really enjoyed the show and thought it was really cool that they put it together so quickly. The sc2 community nowadays really needs to pull the stick out of their asses and chill out more, the fact that sponsors are getting messaged on a almost weekly base for some random shit, tournaments are flammed for stuff instead of praised for the fact that we even have these amazing tournaments all over the planet and now we also bitch about free content? I really wish I could go back in time and kick the morrons who led up to orbs loosing his job/destiny getting shitted on/jp raging on the community (rightful imo) in their fucking asses.
The most ironic part is that I'm probably gonna get banned from tl for expressing my opinion, cool censorship guys.

User was temp banned for this post.


I don't get what was the point of adding the last line. I could express my opinion and question Nazgul's ban once and there was no problem at all


Nothing to see here, move it along folks


I see what you did there.
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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
May 12 2012 20:35 GMT
#21502
trololo
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Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
May 12 2012 21:34 GMT
#21503
On May 11 2012 19:59 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 09:56 kerpal wrote:
i actually scoured TL and found a pic of intrigue, right when that confusion was at it's highest and i was beginning to doubt everything i ever knew


Well, it's not very difficult to find pictures of staff members.


I think it would be hilarious if R1CH posed for this whilst wearing a wizard hat.

http://talk-to-stimey-please.1324083.n2.nabble.com/
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
May 12 2012 22:24 GMT
#21504
On May 13 2012 06:34 Anacletus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 19:59 marttorn wrote:
On May 11 2012 09:56 kerpal wrote:
i actually scoured TL and found a pic of intrigue, right when that confusion was at it's highest and i was beginning to doubt everything i ever knew


Well, it's not very difficult to find pictures of staff members.


I think it would be hilarious if R1CH posed for this whilst wearing a wizard hat.


Umm... He is wearing an invisible wizard hat in that pic.
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 02:58:49
May 13 2012 02:58 GMT
#21505
Based on those photos, there is a direct correlation between the attrativeness of a staff member and how much they scare me. With few exceptions. /runs away
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
May 13 2012 05:05 GMT
#21506
I find this thread to be about all moderation actions taken and so I have a question.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337114&currentpage=13#252
On May 13 2012 06:54 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 06:38 Theovide wrote:
On May 13 2012 06:33 babybell wrote:
I don't understand why people are so focused on Scarlett getting a new team after all 4 players went teamless. Personally, I don't like Scarlett as a starcraft player. Her winning all the female tournaments is not very fair from my standpoint. Wouldn't be too thrilled to see her on Team Liquid or EG.

So she should deny the invitations? Also, she showed very good results at IPL4 aswell.

One thing that always confuses me aswell, is that the critics of Scarlett seems to think she's transgendered as a choice to win female tournaments, and that's just absurd. Afaik there is genetic studies that has showed that transgendered peoples brains are more like those of the gender they are not born as, than the gender they are born as, and from there it comes that they start feeling like they are a man trapped in a womans body or the otherway around.

Allow me to preface this by saying I support Scarlett, and am interested to see where she takes her career.

Although it is obvious that Scarlett's choice to undergo a prolonged surgery to restructure the most fundamental aspect of human identity was not prompted by anything as petty as winning SC2 tournaments, there is a bit of a conundrum there regarding whether to treat her as a female or not. It is well-known that men on average do in fact have faster reaction times than women, and it's not entirely clear what effect the surgery has on this fact. Given that Scarlett has been leaving all the other female competitors in the dust, it isn't completely out of the question that her male birth gives her an innate advantage. If this is the case, it may not be appropriate to let her compete in the female-only tournaments, as she isn't really playing the same game as the rest of them. Then again, she could just be Tossgirl 2.0. We simply don't have any conclusive evidence either way. I'm not sure which side of the issue I come down on, but I think it's something that'll have to be discussed at some point or other. We'll have to wait and see.

As far as Scarlett herself is concerned, I think she should keep on collecting free wins against lower-skilled opponents. She's a progamer. She does this for a living. As long as she isn't cheating or in any other way degrading the scene, I don't care WHAT she does to make money, just like I don't care what any other progamer does to get their prize money.

That'll be the end of my little monologue. I find it very interesting, and it's what makes Scarlett such a fascinating player to me.

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Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
May 13 2012 05:10 GMT
#21507
On May 13 2012 14:05 beetlelisk wrote:
I find this thread to be about all moderation actions taken and so I have a question.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337114&currentpage=13#252
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 06:54 Acritter wrote:
On May 13 2012 06:38 Theovide wrote:
On May 13 2012 06:33 babybell wrote:
I don't understand why people are so focused on Scarlett getting a new team after all 4 players went teamless. Personally, I don't like Scarlett as a starcraft player. Her winning all the female tournaments is not very fair from my standpoint. Wouldn't be too thrilled to see her on Team Liquid or EG.

So she should deny the invitations? Also, she showed very good results at IPL4 aswell.

One thing that always confuses me aswell, is that the critics of Scarlett seems to think she's transgendered as a choice to win female tournaments, and that's just absurd. Afaik there is genetic studies that has showed that transgendered peoples brains are more like those of the gender they are not born as, than the gender they are born as, and from there it comes that they start feeling like they are a man trapped in a womans body or the otherway around.

Allow me to preface this by saying I support Scarlett, and am interested to see where she takes her career.

Although it is obvious that Scarlett's choice to undergo a prolonged surgery to restructure the most fundamental aspect of human identity was not prompted by anything as petty as winning SC2 tournaments, there is a bit of a conundrum there regarding whether to treat her as a female or not. It is well-known that men on average do in fact have faster reaction times than women, and it's not entirely clear what effect the surgery has on this fact. Given that Scarlett has been leaving all the other female competitors in the dust, it isn't completely out of the question that her male birth gives her an innate advantage. If this is the case, it may not be appropriate to let her compete in the female-only tournaments, as she isn't really playing the same game as the rest of them. Then again, she could just be Tossgirl 2.0. We simply don't have any conclusive evidence either way. I'm not sure which side of the issue I come down on, but I think it's something that'll have to be discussed at some point or other. We'll have to wait and see.

As far as Scarlett herself is concerned, I think she should keep on collecting free wins against lower-skilled opponents. She's a progamer. She does this for a living. As long as she isn't cheating or in any other way degrading the scene, I don't care WHAT she does to make money, just like I don't care what any other progamer does to get their prize money.

That'll be the end of my little monologue. I find it very interesting, and it's what makes Scarlett such a fascinating player to me.

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Was this user warned for offtopic or something else?


My guess would be a trying to start a gender debate.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 05:13:59
May 13 2012 05:13 GMT
#21508
On May 13 2012 14:05 beetlelisk wrote:
I find this thread to be about all moderation actions taken and so I have a question.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337114&currentpage=13#252
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 06:54 Acritter wrote:
On May 13 2012 06:38 Theovide wrote:
On May 13 2012 06:33 babybell wrote:
I don't understand why people are so focused on Scarlett getting a new team after all 4 players went teamless. Personally, I don't like Scarlett as a starcraft player. Her winning all the female tournaments is not very fair from my standpoint. Wouldn't be too thrilled to see her on Team Liquid or EG.

So she should deny the invitations? Also, she showed very good results at IPL4 aswell.

One thing that always confuses me aswell, is that the critics of Scarlett seems to think she's transgendered as a choice to win female tournaments, and that's just absurd. Afaik there is genetic studies that has showed that transgendered peoples brains are more like those of the gender they are not born as, than the gender they are born as, and from there it comes that they start feeling like they are a man trapped in a womans body or the otherway around.

Allow me to preface this by saying I support Scarlett, and am interested to see where she takes her career.

Although it is obvious that Scarlett's choice to undergo a prolonged surgery to restructure the most fundamental aspect of human identity was not prompted by anything as petty as winning SC2 tournaments, there is a bit of a conundrum there regarding whether to treat her as a female or not. It is well-known that men on average do in fact have faster reaction times than women, and it's not entirely clear what effect the surgery has on this fact. Given that Scarlett has been leaving all the other female competitors in the dust, it isn't completely out of the question that her male birth gives her an innate advantage. If this is the case, it may not be appropriate to let her compete in the female-only tournaments, as she isn't really playing the same game as the rest of them. Then again, she could just be Tossgirl 2.0. We simply don't have any conclusive evidence either way. I'm not sure which side of the issue I come down on, but I think it's something that'll have to be discussed at some point or other. We'll have to wait and see.

As far as Scarlett herself is concerned, I think she should keep on collecting free wins against lower-skilled opponents. She's a progamer. She does this for a living. As long as she isn't cheating or in any other way degrading the scene, I don't care WHAT she does to make money, just like I don't care what any other progamer does to get their prize money.

That'll be the end of my little monologue. I find it very interesting, and it's what makes Scarlett such a fascinating player to me.

User was warned for this post

Was this user warned for offtopic or something else?


Mod note

The gender discussion ends on page 16.
The starcraft discussion resumes on page 16.

Thank you.

Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
May 13 2012 05:19 GMT
#21509
On May 13 2012 14:10 Jisall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 14:05 beetlelisk wrote:
I find this thread to be about all moderation actions taken and so I have a question.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337114&currentpage=13#252
On May 13 2012 06:54 Acritter wrote:
On May 13 2012 06:38 Theovide wrote:
On May 13 2012 06:33 babybell wrote:
I don't understand why people are so focused on Scarlett getting a new team after all 4 players went teamless. Personally, I don't like Scarlett as a starcraft player. Her winning all the female tournaments is not very fair from my standpoint. Wouldn't be too thrilled to see her on Team Liquid or EG.

So she should deny the invitations? Also, she showed very good results at IPL4 aswell.

One thing that always confuses me aswell, is that the critics of Scarlett seems to think she's transgendered as a choice to win female tournaments, and that's just absurd. Afaik there is genetic studies that has showed that transgendered peoples brains are more like those of the gender they are not born as, than the gender they are born as, and from there it comes that they start feeling like they are a man trapped in a womans body or the otherway around.

Allow me to preface this by saying I support Scarlett, and am interested to see where she takes her career.

Although it is obvious that Scarlett's choice to undergo a prolonged surgery to restructure the most fundamental aspect of human identity was not prompted by anything as petty as winning SC2 tournaments, there is a bit of a conundrum there regarding whether to treat her as a female or not. It is well-known that men on average do in fact have faster reaction times than women, and it's not entirely clear what effect the surgery has on this fact. Given that Scarlett has been leaving all the other female competitors in the dust, it isn't completely out of the question that her male birth gives her an innate advantage. If this is the case, it may not be appropriate to let her compete in the female-only tournaments, as she isn't really playing the same game as the rest of them. Then again, she could just be Tossgirl 2.0. We simply don't have any conclusive evidence either way. I'm not sure which side of the issue I come down on, but I think it's something that'll have to be discussed at some point or other. We'll have to wait and see.

As far as Scarlett herself is concerned, I think she should keep on collecting free wins against lower-skilled opponents. She's a progamer. She does this for a living. As long as she isn't cheating or in any other way degrading the scene, I don't care WHAT she does to make money, just like I don't care what any other progamer does to get their prize money.

That'll be the end of my little monologue. I find it very interesting, and it's what makes Scarlett such a fascinating player to me.

User was warned for this post

Was this user warned for offtopic or something else?


My guess would be a trying to start a gender debate.

He wasn't the first to use word "gender". I'm not sure if that's it.

On May 13 2012 14:13 Shana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 14:05 beetlelisk wrote:
I find this thread to be about all moderation actions taken and so I have a question.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337114&currentpage=13#252
On May 13 2012 06:54 Acritter wrote:
On May 13 2012 06:38 Theovide wrote:
On May 13 2012 06:33 babybell wrote:
I don't understand why people are so focused on Scarlett getting a new team after all 4 players went teamless. Personally, I don't like Scarlett as a starcraft player. Her winning all the female tournaments is not very fair from my standpoint. Wouldn't be too thrilled to see her on Team Liquid or EG.

So she should deny the invitations? Also, she showed very good results at IPL4 aswell.

One thing that always confuses me aswell, is that the critics of Scarlett seems to think she's transgendered as a choice to win female tournaments, and that's just absurd. Afaik there is genetic studies that has showed that transgendered peoples brains are more like those of the gender they are not born as, than the gender they are born as, and from there it comes that they start feeling like they are a man trapped in a womans body or the otherway around.

Allow me to preface this by saying I support Scarlett, and am interested to see where she takes her career.

Although it is obvious that Scarlett's choice to undergo a prolonged surgery to restructure the most fundamental aspect of human identity was not prompted by anything as petty as winning SC2 tournaments, there is a bit of a conundrum there regarding whether to treat her as a female or not. It is well-known that men on average do in fact have faster reaction times than women, and it's not entirely clear what effect the surgery has on this fact. Given that Scarlett has been leaving all the other female competitors in the dust, it isn't completely out of the question that her male birth gives her an innate advantage. If this is the case, it may not be appropriate to let her compete in the female-only tournaments, as she isn't really playing the same game as the rest of them. Then again, she could just be Tossgirl 2.0. We simply don't have any conclusive evidence either way. I'm not sure which side of the issue I come down on, but I think it's something that'll have to be discussed at some point or other. We'll have to wait and see.

As far as Scarlett herself is concerned, I think she should keep on collecting free wins against lower-skilled opponents. She's a progamer. She does this for a living. As long as she isn't cheating or in any other way degrading the scene, I don't care WHAT she does to make money, just like I don't care what any other progamer does to get their prize money.

That'll be the end of my little monologue. I find it very interesting, and it's what makes Scarlett such a fascinating player to me.

User was warned for this post

Was this user warned for offtopic or something else?


Mod note

Show nested quote +
The gender discussion ends on page 16.
The starcraft discussion resumes on page 16.

Thank you.


Yep, except the post is from page 13.
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
May 13 2012 05:35 GMT
#21510
Wow...it took awhile after he had his thread closed, well, longer than I expected anyway:

FanOfincontrol was just banned by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2012-05-04 07:41:17 and had 5 posts.

Reason: You're an idiot.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337255
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Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 05:41:38
May 13 2012 05:38 GMT
#21511
On May 13 2012 14:19 beetlelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 14:10 Jisall wrote:
On May 13 2012 14:05 beetlelisk wrote:
I find this thread to be about all moderation actions taken and so I have a question.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337114&currentpage=13#252
On May 13 2012 06:54 Acritter wrote:
On May 13 2012 06:38 Theovide wrote:
On May 13 2012 06:33 babybell wrote:
I don't understand why people are so focused on Scarlett getting a new team after all 4 players went teamless. Personally, I don't like Scarlett as a starcraft player. Her winning all the female tournaments is not very fair from my standpoint. Wouldn't be too thrilled to see her on Team Liquid or EG.

So she should deny the invitations? Also, she showed very good results at IPL4 aswell.

One thing that always confuses me aswell, is that the critics of Scarlett seems to think she's transgendered as a choice to win female tournaments, and that's just absurd. Afaik there is genetic studies that has showed that transgendered peoples brains are more like those of the gender they are not born as, than the gender they are born as, and from there it comes that they start feeling like they are a man trapped in a womans body or the otherway around.

Allow me to preface this by saying I support Scarlett, and am interested to see where she takes her career.

Although it is obvious that Scarlett's choice to undergo a prolonged surgery to restructure the most fundamental aspect of human identity was not prompted by anything as petty as winning SC2 tournaments, there is a bit of a conundrum there regarding whether to treat her as a female or not. It is well-known that men on average do in fact have faster reaction times than women, and it's not entirely clear what effect the surgery has on this fact. Given that Scarlett has been leaving all the other female competitors in the dust, it isn't completely out of the question that her male birth gives her an innate advantage. If this is the case, it may not be appropriate to let her compete in the female-only tournaments, as she isn't really playing the same game as the rest of them. Then again, she could just be Tossgirl 2.0. We simply don't have any conclusive evidence either way. I'm not sure which side of the issue I come down on, but I think it's something that'll have to be discussed at some point or other. We'll have to wait and see.

As far as Scarlett herself is concerned, I think she should keep on collecting free wins against lower-skilled opponents. She's a progamer. She does this for a living. As long as she isn't cheating or in any other way degrading the scene, I don't care WHAT she does to make money, just like I don't care what any other progamer does to get their prize money.

That'll be the end of my little monologue. I find it very interesting, and it's what makes Scarlett such a fascinating player to me.

User was warned for this post

Was this user warned for offtopic or something else?


My guess would be a trying to start a gender debate.

He wasn't the first to use word "gender". I'm not sure if that's it.

Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 14:13 Shana wrote:
On May 13 2012 14:05 beetlelisk wrote:
I find this thread to be about all moderation actions taken and so I have a question.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337114&currentpage=13#252
On May 13 2012 06:54 Acritter wrote:
On May 13 2012 06:38 Theovide wrote:
On May 13 2012 06:33 babybell wrote:
I don't understand why people are so focused on Scarlett getting a new team after all 4 players went teamless. Personally, I don't like Scarlett as a starcraft player. Her winning all the female tournaments is not very fair from my standpoint. Wouldn't be too thrilled to see her on Team Liquid or EG.

So she should deny the invitations? Also, she showed very good results at IPL4 aswell.

One thing that always confuses me aswell, is that the critics of Scarlett seems to think she's transgendered as a choice to win female tournaments, and that's just absurd. Afaik there is genetic studies that has showed that transgendered peoples brains are more like those of the gender they are not born as, than the gender they are born as, and from there it comes that they start feeling like they are a man trapped in a womans body or the otherway around.

Allow me to preface this by saying I support Scarlett, and am interested to see where she takes her career.

Although it is obvious that Scarlett's choice to undergo a prolonged surgery to restructure the most fundamental aspect of human identity was not prompted by anything as petty as winning SC2 tournaments, there is a bit of a conundrum there regarding whether to treat her as a female or not. It is well-known that men on average do in fact have faster reaction times than women, and it's not entirely clear what effect the surgery has on this fact. Given that Scarlett has been leaving all the other female competitors in the dust, it isn't completely out of the question that her male birth gives her an innate advantage. If this is the case, it may not be appropriate to let her compete in the female-only tournaments, as she isn't really playing the same game as the rest of them. Then again, she could just be Tossgirl 2.0. We simply don't have any conclusive evidence either way. I'm not sure which side of the issue I come down on, but I think it's something that'll have to be discussed at some point or other. We'll have to wait and see.

As far as Scarlett herself is concerned, I think she should keep on collecting free wins against lower-skilled opponents. She's a progamer. She does this for a living. As long as she isn't cheating or in any other way degrading the scene, I don't care WHAT she does to make money, just like I don't care what any other progamer does to get their prize money.

That'll be the end of my little monologue. I find it very interesting, and it's what makes Scarlett such a fascinating player to me.

User was warned for this post

Was this user warned for offtopic or something else?


Mod note

The gender discussion ends on page 16.
The starcraft discussion resumes on page 16.

Thank you.


Yep, except the post is from page 13.

likely why it was just a warning. Derailing a scarlett thread into a gender discussion is an old trick. The thread is about 4 players leaving a sc2 team.


On May 13 2012 14:35 TheAmazombie wrote:
Wow...it took awhile after he had his thread closed, well, longer than I expected anyway:

Show nested quote +
FanOfincontrol was just banned by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2012-05-04 07:41:17 and had 5 posts.

Reason: You're an idiot.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337255


Lmfao, not sure what's better that thread or the link to white-ra's thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=332663
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
May 13 2012 05:38 GMT
#21512
How so? I banned him before I closed his thread.
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Pillage
Profile Joined July 2011
United States804 Posts
May 13 2012 05:39 GMT
#21513
On May 13 2012 14:35 TheAmazombie wrote:
Wow...it took awhile after he had his thread closed, well, longer than I expected anyway:

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FanOfincontrol was just banned by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2012-05-04 07:41:17 and had 5 posts.

Reason: You're an idiot.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337255


what the f did i just read.
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
May 13 2012 05:39 GMT
#21514
On May 13 2012 14:38 EvilTeletubby wrote:
How so? I banned him before I closed his thread.


Oh, it just didn't show up until a bit later. I had checked the thread right when it was closed, didn't see a ban post, then it wasn't until I posted that I had seen it show up. I didn't realize there was a bit of a lag on the bot there.
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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
May 13 2012 05:45 GMT
#21515
On May 13 2012 14:38 EvilTeletubby wrote:
How so? I banned him before I closed his thread.

ETT you made me a sad panda it's not like I claim the right to your free time but you could PM me back
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
May 13 2012 05:51 GMT
#21516
sorry I haven't had the chance to formulate a proper reply in your thread and I didn't want to half-ass it on ya
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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
May 13 2012 05:54 GMT
#21517
On May 13 2012 14:51 EvilTeletubby wrote:
sorry I haven't had the chance to formulate a proper reply in your thread and I didn't want to half-ass it on ya

Thank You. I will be waiting, don't you forget to do that!
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Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
May 13 2012 10:20 GMT
#21518
On May 13 2012 14:19 beetlelisk wrote:
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On May 13 2012 14:10 Jisall wrote:
On May 13 2012 14:05 beetlelisk wrote:
I find this thread to be about all moderation actions taken and so I have a question.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337114&currentpage=13#252
On May 13 2012 06:54 Acritter wrote:
On May 13 2012 06:38 Theovide wrote:
On May 13 2012 06:33 babybell wrote:
I don't understand why people are so focused on Scarlett getting a new team after all 4 players went teamless. Personally, I don't like Scarlett as a starcraft player. Her winning all the female tournaments is not very fair from my standpoint. Wouldn't be too thrilled to see her on Team Liquid or EG.

So she should deny the invitations? Also, she showed very good results at IPL4 aswell.

One thing that always confuses me aswell, is that the critics of Scarlett seems to think she's transgendered as a choice to win female tournaments, and that's just absurd. Afaik there is genetic studies that has showed that transgendered peoples brains are more like those of the gender they are not born as, than the gender they are born as, and from there it comes that they start feeling like they are a man trapped in a womans body or the otherway around.

Allow me to preface this by saying I support Scarlett, and am interested to see where she takes her career.

Although it is obvious that Scarlett's choice to undergo a prolonged surgery to restructure the most fundamental aspect of human identity was not prompted by anything as petty as winning SC2 tournaments, there is a bit of a conundrum there regarding whether to treat her as a female or not. It is well-known that men on average do in fact have faster reaction times than women, and it's not entirely clear what effect the surgery has on this fact. Given that Scarlett has been leaving all the other female competitors in the dust, it isn't completely out of the question that her male birth gives her an innate advantage. If this is the case, it may not be appropriate to let her compete in the female-only tournaments, as she isn't really playing the same game as the rest of them. Then again, she could just be Tossgirl 2.0. We simply don't have any conclusive evidence either way. I'm not sure which side of the issue I come down on, but I think it's something that'll have to be discussed at some point or other. We'll have to wait and see.

As far as Scarlett herself is concerned, I think she should keep on collecting free wins against lower-skilled opponents. She's a progamer. She does this for a living. As long as she isn't cheating or in any other way degrading the scene, I don't care WHAT she does to make money, just like I don't care what any other progamer does to get their prize money.

That'll be the end of my little monologue. I find it very interesting, and it's what makes Scarlett such a fascinating player to me.

User was warned for this post

Was this user warned for offtopic or something else?


My guess would be a trying to start a gender debate.

He wasn't the first to use word "gender". I'm not sure if that's it.

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On May 13 2012 14:13 Shana wrote:
On May 13 2012 14:05 beetlelisk wrote:
I find this thread to be about all moderation actions taken and so I have a question.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337114&currentpage=13#252
On May 13 2012 06:54 Acritter wrote:
On May 13 2012 06:38 Theovide wrote:
On May 13 2012 06:33 babybell wrote:
I don't understand why people are so focused on Scarlett getting a new team after all 4 players went teamless. Personally, I don't like Scarlett as a starcraft player. Her winning all the female tournaments is not very fair from my standpoint. Wouldn't be too thrilled to see her on Team Liquid or EG.

So she should deny the invitations? Also, she showed very good results at IPL4 aswell.

One thing that always confuses me aswell, is that the critics of Scarlett seems to think she's transgendered as a choice to win female tournaments, and that's just absurd. Afaik there is genetic studies that has showed that transgendered peoples brains are more like those of the gender they are not born as, than the gender they are born as, and from there it comes that they start feeling like they are a man trapped in a womans body or the otherway around.

Allow me to preface this by saying I support Scarlett, and am interested to see where she takes her career.

Although it is obvious that Scarlett's choice to undergo a prolonged surgery to restructure the most fundamental aspect of human identity was not prompted by anything as petty as winning SC2 tournaments, there is a bit of a conundrum there regarding whether to treat her as a female or not. It is well-known that men on average do in fact have faster reaction times than women, and it's not entirely clear what effect the surgery has on this fact. Given that Scarlett has been leaving all the other female competitors in the dust, it isn't completely out of the question that her male birth gives her an innate advantage. If this is the case, it may not be appropriate to let her compete in the female-only tournaments, as she isn't really playing the same game as the rest of them. Then again, she could just be Tossgirl 2.0. We simply don't have any conclusive evidence either way. I'm not sure which side of the issue I come down on, but I think it's something that'll have to be discussed at some point or other. We'll have to wait and see.

As far as Scarlett herself is concerned, I think she should keep on collecting free wins against lower-skilled opponents. She's a progamer. She does this for a living. As long as she isn't cheating or in any other way degrading the scene, I don't care WHAT she does to make money, just like I don't care what any other progamer does to get their prize money.

That'll be the end of my little monologue. I find it very interesting, and it's what makes Scarlett such a fascinating player to me.

User was warned for this post

Was this user warned for offtopic or something else?


Mod note

The gender discussion ends on page 16.
The starcraft discussion resumes on page 16.

Thank you.


Yep, except the post is from page 13.


It was clearly off topic and trans/gender discussion has been done to death and never ends well anyway. I guess the mod note was added afterwards because there were too many posters to warn and the mesage would not have gotten across.
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Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
May 13 2012 23:34 GMT
#21519
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337417

Everyone get your popcorn out and ready!

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Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
May 13 2012 23:39 GMT
#21520
On May 14 2012 08:34 Anacletus wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337417

Everyone get your popcorn out and ready!



Lol this thread might have a future. As long as people stop taking the thread title literally. lmfao
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