UK Sc2 House! - Page 15

On August 10 2011 07:34 Eleaven wrote:


The only guy with a job, is handing his notice in next weekend, and then after the contractual 4 weeks, he'll be joining us. The guy with a plane ticket from Athens to London is also on board. There really is no drama, it's just easier to deflect than to accept.

I wish the guys who didn't make it all the best, and if you remember from the original post 2+ months ago, one of my hopes was that other people would finally take the initiative to start their own houses and get practising! It's great for sc2 and the UK scene if they want to put that level of effort in!

On August 10 2011 07:37 bakor wrote:


Fair enough all I needed was it explained, but still sounds like you broke the news the worst way possible, I hope you understand that if you took the time to explain to them you would of not had these issues.

On August 10 2011 07:45 Eleaven wrote:


I'd spoken to everyone other than gimble days (and weeks) before hand about my concerns.
It's almost (almost) funny, that the issue with gimble is that it's simply been impossible to get him to commit more than a yes or a no. I didn't want to assume the role of armchair psychologist and try to make him "open up to the group"
the opportunity to be involved was there, and has been taken by 5 (out of 6) of the main contenders.

Thanks for listening to my point of view, i'll take your criticism on board. there are reasons for my shortness, but i'll not make excuses. I can understand gimble's frustration, and i hope he understands mine.

On August 10 2011 07:59 Seala wrote:
Well that's all I've got for now

btw I just got in to gm yay, lol

On August 10 2011 07:59 Seala wrote:
Well that's all I've got for now

btw I just got in to gm yay, lol

On August 10 2011 08:11 GimbleB wrote:
@Eleaven I said from the very beginning that I couldn't go down until September. I was reading the Skype conversations and saying that I was ok with everything you were planning. The times I wasn't around when people were talking, I went through what I missed and was up to date on what was happening. I joined in when people talked and was of the mindset "these seem like cool guys, but I'll focus on sorting out everything I need to do before I go down first."

People talked about playing games, but I rarely saw anyone on-line. The channel that was made for us to hang out in ended up with just me in it. I didn't have long conversations with people, that's true, but neither did I refuse to talk to anyone. I decided to spend my time trying to get good enough that I could actually make a worthwhile practice partner.

I will admit that I did not take this well. But after having been trying to get my level of play to a decent level (I've been playing on NA to prep for geforce/MLG), been talking when others were (I don't talk a lot normally) and been thinking how great it would be to live with you guys and how far we could get, it was pretty horrific to see you post a "these people are unlikely to make it into the house" and then log off. For the past couple of months this has been something I've been looking forward to and I had zero indication that there was anything wrong.

With regards to the yes or no mindset, I am a laid back person most of the time. So if I don't have a problem with anything, I won't voice any concerns. Everything you were saying about the plans to move in somewhere, I was happy with. If I seemed reserved at any point, it was due to - having nearly been conned before on-line (I didn't lose anything) and due to being busy playing in tournaments and practising on ladder.

The number 4 comes from "Well since Dan decided to just leave that there and then head off I will fill you in on what I know I guess, he decided to cut down on the house so that it's just 4 people because apparently it's ALOT cheaper," that was said after you left skype.

I'll delete the post now since it seems to have stemmed from mis-information and me getting angry due to that. I've calmed down a lot now, but I wish someone had said something to me. Spending 2 months going "fuck yeah, I'm going to move into a gaming house and it'll be the best thing ever" only to have it seemingly torn out from under you with an explanation of "you didn't care enough" was mortifying.

On August 10 2011 09:21 LeonStarcraft wrote:
UK SC2 house, with a swede taking one of the 4 spots.

Really deviating from the original plan huh?

UK Sc2 Has been bubbling quietly for a long time now, never really making any breakthroughs. Right now there is a feeling going around that there's a lot of “almost there” players, looking for an opportunity to live Sc2.

For a few lucky people, this may just be that chance!)

On August 10 2011 08:06 bakor wrote:


Should be plenty of events in the UK for you attend, more players the better. Hope it goes well and congrats on GM.

On August 10 2011 09:38 LeonStarcraft wrote:


If thats the case maybe you should edit the original post to say "EU SC2 has been bubbling"

And for the not classy part? rich coming from a man who tells people they can't join the house via text document then goes AFK...stay classy San Diego.

On August 10 2011 09:38 LeonStarcraft wrote:


If thats the case maybe you should edit the original post to say "EU SC2 has been bubbling"

And for the not classy part? rich coming from a man who tells people they can't join the house via text document then goes AFK...stay classy San Diego.

[B]On August 10 2011 09:43 Eleaven wrote:

After having responded to everybody within a matter of minutes all night, I fail to see how and where I went "afk" I very clearly left an open channel of communication for everybody.
You seem to be the only guy still on the witch-hunt here.

If the players involved are being amicable, why aren't you?

Your argument clearly has nothing left now that you're relying on semantics to dig at me, so just let it go. You'll have forgotten about this by the time you take the last sip of bedtime milk

If you like the idea, but don't have the money, and feel unsafe about committing, I'd be more than happy to Have the right person come and stay for a week or so, to get a chance to see the area, and have a look for part time work (of which there is a LOT going round atm!)

On August 10 2011 10:00 LeonStarcraft wrote:


So you didn't leave a text document to those on skype and then said "back on monday"...seems pretty AFK, just saying.

And you then fail to address the point I mentioned. It seems you have changed your tune dramatically from the offset where you said it was based on helping grow the UK scene (want me to quote again?) and then go and offer a place to a swedish GM player (im sure hes a great guy and all but what about the original post about the UK players almost making it?)

That is what i was refering to by saying deviating from the plan, yet you act like the school girl and then have personal insults involving milk, pretty hypocritical. I have only pointed out facts and contradictions of the OP, yet you don't answer these and instead get personal.

I won't stoop to that level as it's sad, however since you are being tedious I will pull another golden quote from my magicians hat:



Gimble stated he wanted to go and was willing, yet he didn't even get this courtesy, so i'll ask again, deviating from the original plan?

TBH with this mess i say this house will last a week tops given the terrible organisation from the start, and by throwing UK on the front of it (which you have lately pointed out that it is only location based rather than player) it will give the UK scene a bad rep.

[B]On August 10 2011 09:43 Eleaven wrote:
You're flat out wrong, i can send you the chat log of me offering gimble that opportunity, and him refusing because he would be attending events during the time.
If you don't think good players in tournaments in UK won't help then there's nothing convincing you.
If you want a "pureblood cult" this isn't it.

Erik was a masters players when I first got in touch with him 2 months ago, and has now graduated to his deserved GM spot, if you don't see how having him as a practice partner is beneficial to the English players, then again i can't convince you.

You are looking for problems where they don't exist.
If you want an all English team, go ahead and make one!

On August 10 2011 10:20 LeonStarcraft wrote:


Again, you miss the point entirely. he was willing to go, and was getting ready to go. He was so willing, he accepted the invitation to go down without wanting to scope the area, yet you didn't give him the courtesy of time.

Having one swedish player who only got to GM isn't going to boom the scene here, [b]getting UK players to participate in tournaments and getting them to improve will, that is a 100% fact. Again you miss the point entirely, you changed your tune from the start and you fail to respond to this.