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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Suspected, need more replays | ||
BlitchizSC2
United States306 Posts
On June 23 2011 01:40 Probe1 wrote: There are some anomalous results in his match history of him winning while behind but there's nothing concrete in his match history that insinuates drop hacking. Please upload the two replays and I'll keep my eye out for further reports. The replays don't save because of the game crash. :/ It's all recorded on the VOD though. Thanks for looking into it. | ||
Lenchik
1 Post
Server: North America Your Name: Lenchik Hacker Name: Crisis Replay: http://drop.sc/15771?pass=2f0721f7-5046-4250-938a-9b8dfd777180 Description: -Doesn't scout me all game until he finally decides to attack with his giant ball and he attacks straight for my nat weaker choice skipping PF -Cancel 5th gateway and puts robo down AS SOON as cloak starts -Immediately sends his army to kill rocks soon as I land my CC in rock island without scouting. Edit: I know this is my first post as i think this warrants a pretty good first post, had to make account to report this guy but been long time tl lurker | ||
Probe1
United States17920 Posts
12:00 ignores the banshee attacking his base and pops guardian shield because he sees a red dot on the mini map. Attack moves into your army after guardian shield. What an amazing stroke of luck. 15:00 tries to expand even though there's a banshee there. Why? I need to rewatch this again, there's definitely enough to be suspicious but I'm not sure if there's enough to confirm he's hacking. There are quite a few awkward pauses where he just stared at something useless when he should be defending.. | ||
Canti_the_Angel
United States55 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
The season 3 thread will open. | ||
Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
On June 23 2011 11:04 Canti_the_Angel wrote: =o with season three close, what will happen to this awesome thread? What will I read at work?! New thread, of course. I'm just glad that blizzard is moderating the hacking and banning anyone they catch. I know several game companies who just release their games and let them fester, and hacks go wild. | ||
Genome852
United States979 Posts
I know Valve relies on VAC to do all anticheat bans for their games, even if you have a demo of a blatantly obvious aimbotter. More cheaters will be left untouched this way but at least you know the people who are banned got detected by the anticheat (similar to letting 100 criminals roam free because you don't want to jail a single innocent person). | ||
PowerDes
United States520 Posts
Server: NA Hacker Name: dEaSUnG Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=216943 Description: Very very very consistent panning, no scouting at start, blind counters spire, etc. Very blatant. | ||
Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Then blind counters mutas. Meh. Need to watch it again and its quite long, i'll have a write up in 6 hours or so. 18:00 he moves his hydras to his third base to counter mutas he doesn't know is coming. On top of the FOW looks (times coming later) and ridiculous scouting knowledge w/o scouting, it's a maphack. Edit: I want to wait before adding him to the list, just in case but after watching it again there's too many coincidences or lucky plays. | ||
ThisFingGuy
United States4 Posts
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ProTech
United States433 Posts
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Snake Grunger
Canada61 Posts
Your Name: SnakeGrunger Hacker Name: VenusProject Replay: http://bit.ly/iRSF3S Description: 3-4 looks into my base without scouting on Metalopolis, when I moved out with my zealot/stalker torwards his base he looks and tries to block his ramp with a pylon even before he sees my zealot approaching his ramp, looks at my base again when warp tech finishes, 100% no doubt obvious map hacker. Top diamond level game. | ||
Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On June 24 2011 09:42 Snake Grunger wrote: Server: NA Your Name: SnakeGrunger Hacker Name: VenusProject Replay: http://bit.ly/iRSF3S Description: 3-4 looks into my base without scouting on Metalopolis, when I moved out with my zealot/stalker torwards his base he looks and tries to block his ramp with a pylon even before he sees my zealot approaching his ramp, looks at my base again when warp tech finishes, 100% no doubt obvious map hacker. Top diamond level game. + Show Spoiler [Write up] + 1:05 the FOW scouts begin (main base peek) 2:35 FOW main 3:00 FOW main 3:30 FOW main 4:10-4:15 loooong FOW scout main 4:35 FOW main 4:38 looks immediately when a pylon is made near his gold base 5:00 moves to block his ramp before forces arrive (fails hilariously) 6:15 scouts gateways converting into warpgates Obvious maphacker. The list will be updated tonight. There'll be a long summary post as usual. | ||
mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
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LoneSpartan
United States7 Posts
Your Name: LoneSpartan Hacker Name: hgIAN Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=217067#disc Description:The hacker pans through the FOW most of the game and neither of them scouted. When he is in a losing position, the game starts to lag a lot, and drops his opponents as well has his teammate. 0:15 camera is centered at my protoss friend's base, no scouting 0:55 camera is centered at my base and stays there for a couple of seconds, no scouting 1:32 pans back to my base then to my protoss friend 2:00 pans to my friend's base 2:52 this is the suspicious part, hacker pans through the FOW to the top where my overlord is at. etc more panning through FOW etc 8:46 while his base is being attacked by lings, he centers his camera back to my base where my lings and overlords are. After this part, the replay becomes very laggy which I'm sure isn't suppose to happen. While we were getting dropped, the interesting part happens when I accuse him of hacking and he replies back "expoed" which I think he means "exposed." I left the game, but partner said he was dropped and so was the hacker's partner, but the hacker was still in the game; we lost the game. I looked through the hackers match history; and picked another game where he won. I was suspicious about this game because looking through the graph, the other team was definitely ahead than the hacker. Here's the graph + Show Spoiler + Curious of what happened, I asked the other team what happened. I asked him how he and his teammate lost and he told me that it became laggy and he and his partner dropped. Here's our conversation + Show Spoiler + They kindly gave me a replay and I decided to analyze it Replay: http://www.multiupload.com/4O2BWL2M0O Description: Krowe and Centarion (victims of the hacker) playing in a 2v2 against hgIAN and hgPikuation. No scouting was done from the hacker's side/team. 2:00 hacker pans through FOW from both bases where pylons are placed. 2:23 pans through FOW and looks at teal's base then looks at his moving probe 3:31 looks through FOW and camera is centered at teal's expansion then back to his main 5:05: looks again at Teal's expansion 6:14 looks at teal's army, stalker and zealot near expansion 7:15 purp is going DTs and hacker makes an overseerer, I do not know if this is blind luck. etc panning through FOW etc around and after the 11 min mark, the game starts to become laggy and so is the replay. In the end I assume that the other team was dropped by the hacker. In conclusion: I am pretty sure the hacker uses both drop hack and maphacks. When it seems he is in a losing position, he lags the game and drops people. If these 2 pieces do not suffice, contact me and I guarantee I can find more replays. | ||
Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On June 24 2011 14:15 LoneSpartan wrote: Server: NA Your Name: LoneSpartan 801 Hacker Name: hgIAN Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=217067#disc Description:+ Show Spoiler + The hacker pans through the FOW most of the game and neither of them scouted. When he is in a losing position, the game starts to lag a lot, and drops his opponents as well has his teammate. 0:15 camera is centered at my protoss friend's base, no scouting 0:55 camera is centered at my base and stays there for a couple of seconds, no scouting 1:32 pans back to my base then to my protoss friend 2:00 pans to my friend's base 2:52 this is the suspicious part, hacker pans through the FOW to the top where my overlord is at. etc more panning through FOW etc 8:46 while his base is being attacked by lings, he centers his camera back to my base where my lings and overlords are. After this part, the replay becomes very laggy which I'm sure isn't suppose to happen. While we were getting dropped, the interesting part happens when I accuse him of hacking and he replies back "expoed" which I think he means "exposed." I left the game, but partner said he was dropped and so was the hacker's partner, but the hacker was still in the game; we lost the game. I looked through the hackers match history; and picked another game where he won. I was suspicious about this game because looking through the graph, the other team was definitely ahead than the hacker. Here's the graph + Show Spoiler + Curious of what happened, I asked the other team what happened. I asked him how he and his teammate lost and he told me that it became laggy and he and his partner dropped. Here's our conversation + Show Spoiler + They kindly gave me a replay and I decided to analyze it Replay: http://www.multiupload.com/4O2BWL2M0O Description: Krowe and Centarion (victims of the hacker) playing in a 2v2 against hgIAN and hgPikuation. No scouting was done from the hacker's side/team. 2:00 hacker pans through FOW from both bases where pylons are placed. 2:23 pans through FOW and looks at teal's base then looks at his moving probe 3:31 looks through FOW and camera is centered at teal's expansion then back to his main 5:05: looks again at Teal's expansion 6:14 looks at teal's army, stalker and zealot near expansion 7:15 purp is going DTs and hacker makes an overseerer, I do not know if this is blind luck. etc panning through FOW etc around and after the 11 min mark, the game starts to become laggy and so is the replay. In the end I assume that the other team was dropped by the hacker. In conclusion: I am pretty sure the hacker uses both drop hack and maphacks. When it seems he is in a losing position, he lags the game and drops people. If these 2 pieces do not suffice, contact me and I guarantee I can find more replays. I've never seen a replay that lagged before. Regardless of the almost certainty that he's using a drop hack, he's certainly using a map hack. Thank you for the extremely detailed description, I appreciate that. The additional replay was icing, he's busted. | ||
TL AntiHack
39 Posts
On June 20 2011 05:03 infinix wrote: Server: North America Your Name: iNfiniX Hacker Name: GtoYeuGbe Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/6343 Description:+ Show Spoiler + I normally wouldn't care too much about this, but this guy was increasingly BM in chat as well. I was suspicious in game when he had an overseer ready at his base for my DTs as well as he moved a baneling right as my dts came to his base. he did not scout my base at all. After watching the replay there are 2 instances where are incredibly suspicious. He a moved his zerglings across the map directly to where my proxy pylon was, completely unscouted by him. In addition to this, he pulls off 2 lings to find a hidden probe which he again did not scout at all. The replay shows that he moved both times almost on top of my probe/pylon again without any vision, this occurs at abotu 5:20 in the replay. The replay also confirms the super blind dt counter and his response to the dts is also very suspicious. Thank you for your time. EDIT: Typo in the name, the Correct name is GtoYeuGbe. It's very likely that GtoYeuGbe was maphacking here. The attack moves to hidden proxys/probes were too accurate to simply be scouting. The baneling moving to intercept the DT before vision was also just too incredible. I'm adding it as further review for the time being. On June 20 2011 23:55 DuckS wrote: Server: North America Your Name: LaGTTDuckS Hacker Name: LadyZerg Replay: Description:+ Show Spoiler + So, nothing too out of ordinary as far as play goes. He accuses me of lag hacking half way in the game (?) and complains about lag towards the beginning after he fails to a move blings into my min line (through john's common knowledge hallway). The game is pretty one sided for the duration of the replay, but then he a-moves into my army and I clean it up no problem. I attempt to counter attack with my force (the bulk of my army survived), then I feel the profuse pain of lag. I wish there was more evidence to prove he actually did this, but two players are reporting it with two replays of winning -> then sudden profuse lag. If it helps, I was able to minimize, check my inet/run browsers perfectly fine with no lag. I just now pulled up his match history and he has NOTHING but wins after a rocky w/l ratio. I'll upload the screen shot and replay in just a few more moments. EDIT: Uh.. I don't seem to have the replay o.O I think when I minimized and after a few minutes of waiting, I gave up and just force quit sc2, so replay wasn't saved.. (?) that sucks. but here are screen shots anyways: ![]() another after scrolling down a little more: ![]() From these two screen shots, you could infer that he went on a few weeks break. He then came back, from after having a rocky record, with drop hack and the intent of fixing it. EDIT 2: Blargh, it the screen shots seem to cut off for me. i don't know how to get his character code or anything. My char code: LaGTTDuckS.621 On June 20 2011 23:05 Selkie wrote: Server: North America Your Name: Selkie Hacker Name: LadyZerg Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/6427 Description: This is an odd one. As I had won, massive lag starts, and then battle.net tries to drop me. It can't actually drop me though, and I eventually hit surrender after ~5 minutes. This by itself means nothing. However, while it claimed I had no connection, my internet was fine, got ~130-170 latency. Nothing was blocked. By itself, doesn't mean much. However, watching the replay- the lag was in the replay itself. Careful watching it, you're going to get stuck at the end. Lastly, while I can't see the entire match history of my opponent (being diamond), match history claims my opponent has won the past 10 games in a row. I suspect, if a hacker, that the person simply uses a drop hack when he's about to lose. At first I was unconvinced by a single report but two separate reports of the same person with very similar circumstances? I have a difficult time attributing this solely to chance. I'll check back on LadyZerg's match history later tonight and if the pattern still holds, add it as a drop hacker. On June 22 2011 08:42 Gfire wrote: Got one here. (So rusty, embarrassed to show my replay. My other excuse is that I'm using new hotkeys.) Server: NA Your Name: Gfire Hacker Name: MissP Replay: http://drop.sc/15703 Description: Pretty obvious maphacking, I was pretty suspicious when playing the game, how he moves his banshees. In the replay it's pretty obvious he's hacking. This one's easier. Eleven peeks at an unscouted base in the first five minutes, reacting to unscouted army movement and a whole lot more FOW scouting, definite maphacking. On June 24 2011 09:42 Snake Grunger wrote: Server: NA Your Name: SnakeGrunger Hacker Name: VenusProject Replay: http://bit.ly/iRSF3S Description: 3-4 looks into my base without scouting on Metalopolis, when I moved out with my zealot/stalker torwards his base he looks and tries to block his ramp with a pylon even before he sees my zealot approaching his ramp, looks at my base again when warp tech finishes, 100% no doubt obvious map hacker. Top diamond level game. + Show Spoiler [Write up] + 1:05 the FOW scouts begin (main base peek) 2:35 FOW main 3:00 FOW main 3:30 FOW main 4:10-4:15 loooong FOW scout main 4:35 FOW main 4:38 looks immediately when a pylon is made near his gold base 5:00 moves to block his ramp before forces arrive (fails hilariously) 6:15 scouts gateways converting into warpgates Obvious maphacker. Pretty obvious stuff. On June 24 2011 14:15 LoneSpartan wrote: Server: NA Your Name: LoneSpartan 801 Hacker Name: hgIAN Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=217067#disc Description:+ Show Spoiler + The hacker pans through the FOW most of the game and neither of them scouted. When he is in a losing position, the game starts to lag a lot, and drops his opponents as well has his teammate. 0:15 camera is centered at my protoss friend's base, no scouting 0:55 camera is centered at my base and stays there for a couple of seconds, no scouting 1:32 pans back to my base then to my protoss friend 2:00 pans to my friend's base 2:52 this is the suspicious part, hacker pans through the FOW to the top where my overlord is at. etc more panning through FOW etc 8:46 while his base is being attacked by lings, he centers his camera back to my base where my lings and overlords are. After this part, the replay becomes very laggy which I'm sure isn't suppose to happen. While we were getting dropped, the interesting part happens when I accuse him of hacking and he replies back "expoed" which I think he means "exposed." I left the game, but partner said he was dropped and so was the hacker's partner, but the hacker was still in the game; we lost the game. I looked through the hackers match history; and picked another game where he won. I was suspicious about this game because looking through the graph, the other team was definitely ahead than the hacker. Here's the graph + Show Spoiler + Curious of what happened, I asked the other team what happened. I asked him how he and his teammate lost and he told me that it became laggy and he and his partner dropped. Here's our conversation + Show Spoiler + They kindly gave me a replay and I decided to analyze it Replay: http://www.multiupload.com/4O2BWL2M0O Description: Krowe and Centarion (victims of the hacker) playing in a 2v2 against hgIAN and hgPikuation. No scouting was done from the hacker's side/team. 2:00 hacker pans through FOW from both bases where pylons are placed. 2:23 pans through FOW and looks at teal's base then looks at his moving probe 3:31 looks through FOW and camera is centered at teal's expansion then back to his main 5:05: looks again at Teal's expansion 6:14 looks at teal's army, stalker and zealot near expansion 7:15 purp is going DTs and hacker makes an overseerer, I do not know if this is blind luck. etc panning through FOW etc around and after the 11 min mark, the game starts to become laggy and so is the replay. In the end I assume that the other team was dropped by the hacker. In conclusion: I am pretty sure the hacker uses both drop hack and maphacks. When it seems he is in a losing position, he lags the game and drops people. If these 2 pieces do not suffice, contact me and I guarantee I can find more replays. On June 24 2011 14:41 Probe1 wrote: I've never seen a replay that lagged before. Regardless of the almost certainty that he's using a drop hack, he's certainly using a map hack. Thank you for the extremely detailed description, I appreciate that. The additional replay was icing, he's busted. I'm going to write him in as both map and drop hacking. The map hacking is incredibly obvious and with the extra work you put in it can be ascertained that lag spikes and players dropping from games happens a little too frequently to be plausible. To the reports not listed: I'll be updating them within the next three days. Some of them are still undecided, dEaSUnG I want to wait a few hours before confirming and the rest more evidence was required. Thank you everyone. Each person that reviews a replay contributes a very important amount to the process. Having several people watch a replay is always better than one and users like mkfuba07 make my life a lot easier with the amount of effort put towards reviewing. Thank you all. | ||
mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
I just have a question about lag in replays. Is it an indication of hacking of some sort, or does it just further validate other evidence of hacking? It seemed odd to me when I saw it in one of my friend's tournament replays, but I thought that it may have just carried over from the game somehow. | ||
Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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