EPTLook the replay and its obv hacking .
Destiny said he caught him hacking to and alot of people
Ban this hacker thx
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/6632
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Deezer
Canada73 Posts
Look the replay and its obv hacking . Destiny said he caught him hacking to and alot of people Ban this hacker thx http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/6632 | ||
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PrideTV
Vietnam434 Posts
we came up with the idea of putting 2 bunkers at the place where blink stalkers usually blink up to be safe, and salvage them if that particular build doesnt occur. Looks like Rice decided to try this technique out, as we discussed how to precent 15 cc / 1 rax fe from being a simple build order loss on taldarim Looks like it worked. I have played LANS with Rice, and he is legit - albeit he works very hard to understand the game and tries to predict what is goign to happen thanks. -Pride | ||
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Agh
United States976 Posts
Also I found it interesting that I said absolutely nothing to him during or after the game (didn't need to as I won), reviewed the replay then posted here. He replies the thread shortly after. Seems like oddly suspicious/paranoid behavior to me. I know about 10 other people (not including the recent destiny/catz/deezer accusations) that have noticed the same -> He almost definitely has some form of maphack/production tab/unit tab hack but tries desperately to hide it in his play. edit: On June 22 2011 06:33 Deezer wrote: HACKER : RICERICERICE Look the replay and its obv hacking . Destiny said he caught him hacking to and alot of people Ban this hacker thx http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/6632 Decided to watch this game. his scouting scv does not see him taking second gas nor see probes mining from it (it is not completed) and he also leaves despite having a good amount of time before stalker. -Places 2 additional bunkers immediately at the same timing of the forward pylon. (Did this in my games as well despite it being at different and random times.) -Built no engineering bay and had no energy pooled for scans at standard DT timing. The suggestion that he was just blindly playing 'safe' is moot claim, seeing as he was not playing anywhere near safe. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On June 22 2011 07:28 Probe1 wrote: IF there are further replays than the two already submitted with suspicious behavior they should be reported or at the very least, linked. Heresay from Catz or Destiny mean nothing. If they post here and declare RiceRiceRice to be hacking I will consider their statements, otherwise I pay as little regard to what they say as I do to the in game chat logs. Id rather people follow the posting guidelines, personally unless they post all the required information as stated in the OP i just ignore it. | ||
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mrlongjohn33
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"What pride says is pretty accurate. After hitting Deezer on the ladder, and coming off a recent loss to Combatex due to a 4gate blink stalker build abusing the taldarim cliff/pit between the main/third area, I decided to put up the 2 bunkers at the pit/cliff near my third to be on the safe side - without these bunkers I think 1 rax fe / 15cc encounters a build order loss to such a blink stalker build. Turns out Deezer did nearly the exact same build as combatex did to me. In regards to Agh's further accusations, I believe I can answer them. My plan this game was to go for an FE with a quick double gas at 24/25 to do a raven mmm push. That is the beauty of the gasless FE into 2x rax at 22 and 2x gas at 24 build - you essentially have enough gas to get whichever tech option you chose. When I saw his early pressure however, I abandoned this build and focused solely on holding it. Having played Deezer, I know he favors a particular DT expand build. However, I predicted that since the map was Taldarim, he would not use this build because: 1. DT expands have rarely been used against me on Taldarim, if ever. 2. The map architecture of Taldarim does not favor DT expands, namely that a single missle turret placed at the choke of the natural protects both bases 3. The blink stalker build on Taldarim is almost an autowin if a 15cc/1 rax FE is scouted. Thus, I gambled that deezer would not go for DT play. The additional two bunkers at my natural are timed (I think) against any 3/4gate pressure - I also know Deezer loves to play cheesy, so I figured it would be wise to put up bunkers, and simply salvage them later if no pressure occurred. My failure to not save up scans is inexcusable however - had deezer hit a razer thin timing with DTs I simply would have lost - however I accept these kinds of risks when I play ; this facet of my play probably contributing to why I am not a Grandmaster. My previous games vs. Deezer reflect this fact in full. I have lost the past 2 games vs Deezer to misreads on his build - one game if I recall right I got 6 gated, and another game I tank marine allined into a pack of zealots and immortals. As I stated in response to Aghs previous accusations, I do not play the same way the pros do. My mechanics are honestly bad, but I cover them up with an incredible amount of sc2 research, and effort to play smartly. If there are any more questions etc. I would be happy to respond to them. Apologies for the controversy, Spencer" | ||
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Gfire
United States1699 Posts
Server: NA Your Name: Gfire Hacker Name: MissP Replay: http://drop.sc/15703 Description: Pretty obvious maphacking, I was pretty suspicious when playing the game, how he moves his banshees. In the replay it's pretty obvious he's hacking. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Writeup] + 20 seconds in MissP looks through FOW 30 seconds in MissP looks through FOW. 1:20 2:00 3:30 looks at lings and expo 3:40 lings and expo again, diff place 4:00 4:20 looks at overlord in his natural through FOW 4:30 nat and main FOW 5:00 nat and main FOW 5:10 nat and main FOW He still hasn't scouted or even sent a unit down his ramp. I don't see how it could be any more obvious. 6:05 looks at zergling in FOW then looks at opponents natural 6:30 looks at opponents natural 7:10 looks at opponents natural 7:30 looks at opponents natural 8:12 looks at opponents third then natural 8:25 looks at looks at opponents natural and main Still no scouting beyond his own ramp 9:00 looks at opponents natural 9:15 looks at opponents third 10:08 looks at overlords/lings at watchtowers 11:45 he moves his banshees to his opponents base, this is the first act of scouting the entire game. 12:30 he leaves a 100% win situation to go kill roaches in the middle of the map heading to his base. Roaches he never had vision of (Not even of a roach warren) 15:15 he looks at his opponents natural and main. At this point it would be a legitimate action, had he not spent the first 11:45 staring at the exact same places. For another 15 minutes MissP continues to scout through the FOW and react to his opponent. | ||
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cynical
Canada589 Posts
On June 22 2011 06:33 Deezer wrote: HACKER : RICERICERICE Look the replay and its obv hacking . Destiny said he caught him hacking to and alot of people Ban this hacker thx http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/6632 Deezer calling somebody a hacker? The irony. User was warned for this post | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
Take that shit somewhere else. Don't start shit in this thread | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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RedTerror
New Zealand742 Posts
Your Name: RedTerror [random - zerg] Hacker Name: Bstallion [zerg] Replay: http://drop.sc/15712 Description: Very obvious map hack 0:10 changes overlord direction towards my base, it stops at the edge of his base in a strange location, (he doesn't scout all game) 1:50 my pool goes down 2:15 his pool goes down 2:33 he moves his overlord out of the way of my overlord even though its in the Fog of War so far just strange behavior 2:47 pans down to my base through FoW(note he hasn't encountered a single unit of my yet, he doesn't even know what race I am) 3:08 another pan to my base 3:20 my overlord arrives at his base, now he knows what race I am and where I spawned 4:14 pan to my base 5:00 starts spine crawlers in his natural, note this is his first combat units - 5 game mins in and with no idea what I have 6:00 masses spine crawlers (5) he eventually gets 12 - I am going for a 2 base roach ling all in 6:08 glances at my roaches through FoW, even though they were misrallied and were in a weird location 6:44 FoW glance at main 7:59 FoW glance at my base 9:49 FoW glance at my army moving at him 11:00 FoW glance at my natural 11:58 glance at a group of overlords in the middle of map I attack and of course it gets stopped as he has 12 spinecrawlers + lings and queens 14:30 he pushes out with roaches, note this is the first time ANYof his units has left his corner of the map later on he finds my hidden expo after attack moving to another one first. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Selkie
United States530 Posts
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On June 22 2011 22:21 Selkie wrote: Please remember- blindy countering something being done is NOT considered proof of hacking. As such, I'm willing to believe ricericerice is not hacking. I don't think he's hacking, but certain things in his replays (the two that have been submitted for him) seem like huge coincidences. Specifically, his bunkers in the game against Deezer go down almost as soon as the respective proxy pylon appears (the two in front, as well as the two by the cliff), with the last two happening at just about the exact same time. However, as I'm a plat protoss player with a far less developed understanding of timings, I'll accept that they seem like reasonable times to throw them down given the state of the game at the time. In the other game with Agh, the thing that really sticks out in my mind is that when he moves out with his army, I agree that he appears to have the enemy army in his sight many times as he moves towards them. It seemed strange to me that he would move his units all the way towards the bottom of the enemy ramp when the opposing army was at the top, reposition himself farther back when he pans slightly over them as they move down the ramp, and then move his units into position farther south than he originally seemed to intend to after the protoss army moved further down the ramp (sorry if this was poorly phrased). However, his explanations make sense, and waiting for the ghosts is completely logical given that it is a terran bio army against sentries. I don't think anyone with sight of the enemy's army would have two medivacs of perfectly good units fly away just as such a large force comes calling at the front. Unless it was some sort of extremely skillful meta-game hacking in which he did something to throw off suspicion because he knew he was going to lose somehow, I think these things were simply coincidences. Finally, there's no point at which he seems to either scout through the FOW or go idle for long periods of time. He's always active, which would allow little time for him to lock the replay camera and look at the enemy base. It's true that many things can be gleaned from just being able to see the entire minimap at all times, but I don't think there's anything that can conclusively be proved from these replays. TL;DR: Don't think he's hacking, although some things were a little coincidental. Metagaming is completely reasonable, and RiceRiceRice is able to give explanations for every suspicion that we seem to have had. | ||
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Aim Here
Scotland672 Posts
On June 21 2011 03:47 Selkie wrote: I don't know if this is relevant, but the person running the account is on TL- and according to the blog, there's something fishy about the person as well. (I did a TL search for LadyZerg) There's only one instance of "LadyZerg" on teamliquid that's not in this thread, and it's for Niji-z, who used that name in BroodWar, according to a Tl.net post from 2008. She's unlikely to be the LadyZerg on NA in Starcraft 2, because according to another post, Niji bought Starcraft 2 sometime around early August 2010. The LadyZerg from the hacker reports didn't start laddering until May 2011. Even allowing for the fact that Niji said she wasn't laddering for a while because she was playing the campaign, that's still a long chunk of time to go without playing multiplayer. Besides, there is also a Niji on NA who has been playing since season 1. Edit: Oh, just spotted that in one of the blog photos Niji-z clearly possesses a collector's edition Starcraft 2, but LadyZerg, the alleged hacker, hasn't unlocked the collector's edition portraits. Careful with those insinuations, Eugene... | ||
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BlitchizSC2
United States306 Posts
Me: CHOPBlitchiz.522 Hacker: Chanipnida Replay : http://www.justin.tv/blitchizsc2/b/288603414 Early morning queue 11 am-ish. TvT on Delta. SC2 crashes. First time its ever happened to me. I don't think anything of it. Queue again thinking whoa that was weird. I get the same guy. I go lol let's try this again! gl hf etc etc. He goes do you like my drop hacks. I push up his side with tanks and vikings and SC2 crashes again. SC2 has NEVER ever crashed for me before, let alone against the same person twice in a row, gloating about hacks. Since the game crashed I don't have the replays but luckily I was streaming so its all recorded. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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BlitchizSC2
United States306 Posts
On June 23 2011 01:15 Probe1 wrote: Post your character code please so I can look through your match history to find his match history. CHOPBlitchiz.522 | ||
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