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Hello, all! It's become quite apparent that many of you are not reading the first post carefully. Failure to do so in the future will be met with swift punishment. And as always, remember to be civil. Thanks, Empyrean. Time stamp: 03:59 KST. | ||
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Selkie
United States530 Posts
I do wish this whole thing would die down- in the end, worse case senario, someone cheated in a ladder game, eg, practice. It's practice, I don't see why everyone is so riled up about it. I do feel =S for the banlings/mods who have to go through all of this. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32278 Posts
On May 09 2011 04:25 aXa wrote: Just inquiring about warning/banning rules. You can be ban if you disagree with TL on a matter? I don't quite understand why this guy has been warned and banned but i'll happily heard any explanation. If my post looks ironical, it is not, i don't quite control my word well as i am not a native speaker. Because he posted "in b4 warning". From the TL commandments: Don't be a drama queen martyr. TeamLiquid isn't colonial America or Tienanmen Square. You do not need to preemptively declare "I'm going to be banned for this..." or "ban me, I don't care." Our Moderators ban for good reasons. If they read someone acting like a martyr, they'll simply treat it as a request to be banned. | ||
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-{Cake}-
United States217 Posts
On May 09 2011 04:25 aXa wrote: Just inquiring about warning/banning rules. You can be ban if you disagree with TL on a matter? I don't quite understand why this guy has been warned and banned but i'll happily heard any explanation. If my post looks ironical, it is not, i don't quite control my word well as i am not a native speaker. If you say something along the lines of "i'm going to get banned for this" you automatically get banned. It's a blanket policy to stop people from using it to validate their point. | ||
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Armathai
1023 Posts
The mods are tolerating a lot of shit in this topic that should've gotten most people here more than just warned/temp banned, hoping for a harsher crackdown on shitty posting. Also I really dislike this idea that "THIS IS THE INTERNET; PEOPLE BEHAVE SHITTY GET USED TO IT" ; TL has always proven to be beyond and above the terrible rest of the internet, no reason to change that now. IdrA won't quit streaming since part of his revenue depends on it, so quit bringing that topic up. | ||
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scares
Germany239 Posts
On May 09 2011 04:34 Varpulis wrote: TL has a very simple policy about martyrs. If they think the moderators will ban them for their comments, the mods will ban them for their comments. It's that simple. If you think the mods will ban you for saying something, why even say it? as i dont do it i cannot give you the reasons why people do it  !Same you can ask why Idra rages all the time, if you don't, you cannot understand i guess :D | ||
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mr.reee
121 Posts
I find Chill's response transparently dishonest. This would upset any starcraft player, particularly a serious, pro player. I also find great hypocrisy reading through his warnings and bans from TL. So many of them are for bm and insulting posts, but most of them include bm and insults back at Idra. Please note the civility of my response. | ||
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wakefield
United Kingdom114 Posts
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3131 Posts
Unless a post in defense of Idra can revoke the 90 day ban, I guess I just don't know what 91+ pages of back-and-forth is going to accomplish. I understand and appreciate the history of the matter being divulged, but outside of that it just seems like adding lanes to a highway only to have them met with more demand for the added space. | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On May 09 2011 04:37 wakefield wrote: why was this thread even made? To make other people feel good ofc it sure made my day at least | ||
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relyt
United States1073 Posts
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Mataru
Norway356 Posts
On May 09 2011 04:37 wakefield wrote: why was this thread even made? One way or another this was going to get out, and then there would be complaining threads popping up left and right. At least now it's all centralized in one place. | ||
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Elbee
United States224 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
On May 09 2011 04:28 smileyface22 wrote: Because you had the existing infrastructure and there's no other serious competitors? By "existing infrastructure", I can only assume you mean our existing userbase (otherwise, that's silly as there were tons of websites up before the beta even came out). Now, why do you think we've maintained a large userbase and reputation? Oh, and if you think we've never had serious competitors, then you probably haven't followed the Broodwar scene at all. There were many sites in the early days of BW (many even bigger than TL for a while) that don't exist anymore. Again, there are reasons for that. | ||
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aruken
France348 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32278 Posts
On May 09 2011 04:37 mr.reee wrote: I also find great hypocrisy reading through his warnings and bans from TL. So many of them are for bm and insulting posts, but most of them include bm and insults back at Idra. What do you mean? | ||
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mr.reee
121 Posts
On May 08 2011 07:27 Chill wrote: How is that obvious? I've played and seen hundreds of games where someone seems completely prepared, just because of luck or intuition. Just because someone looks ready doesn't mean they were cheating. I see nothing wrong with using the stream to join at the same time as Idra, then minimizing it. What's the difference between having it open and minimized? A lot of bold, honorable assumptions about cruncher formed out of thin air. | ||
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Engore
United States1916 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 09 2011 04:37 wakefield wrote: why was this thread even made? I can't speak for the decision because I had nothing to do with it, but I imagine the outcry if there wasn't a thread would be even worse. Not only would be it be through multiple threads, but people would accuse TL of trying to hide it. | ||
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zeru
8156 Posts
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IMABUNNEH
United Kingdom1062 Posts
I personally feel the original ban was poor moderation on Chill's part. Idra was banned for saying Cruncher was a waste of space, it's not like he was saying it directly to Cruncher, he wasn't trolling, he was posting his opinion in the topic as it was being talked about. Cruncher's "reply" in his own stream thread was OBVIOUS trolling, blatantly against the forum rules, and he didn't even get warned. Idra's response to his original ban was stupid, and I understand why TL extended the ban as a result of it, but he shouldn't have been banned in the first place. Or if that comment was banworthy, then Cruncher's post definitely was as well. It makes it look like bias modding, and though it's not a surprise given Idra's history on the site, it's not good practice to allow that kind of moderation on the site, IMO. | ||
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