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Hello, all!

It's become quite apparent that many of you are not reading the first post carefully.

Failure to do so in the future will be met with swift punishment. And as always, remember to be civil.

Thanks,

Empyrean. Time stamp: 03:59 KST.
aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
May 08 2011 19:29 GMT
#1821
I have read them, and i didn't find the explanation.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
May 08 2011 19:29 GMT
#1822
On May 09 2011 04:25 aXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:03 Happykola wrote:
I disagree with this action by teamliquid, i am in favour of freedom of speech and expression.

inb4 warning

User was warned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.


Just inquiring about warning/banning rules.

You can be ban if you disagree with TL on a matter?

I don't quite understand why this guy has been warned and banned but i'll happily heard any explanation.
If my post looks ironical, it is not, i don't quite control my word well as i am not a native speaker.


He was banned not for disagreeing with us, but for not following the site rules with his "inb4 warning" comment.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
aruken
Profile Joined March 2011
France348 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 19:30:42
May 08 2011 19:29 GMT
#1823
On May 09 2011 04:22 EvilTeletubby wrote:
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On May 09 2011 04:17 Arkan wrote:
Frankly as one of the biggest sites for SC I think it time to completetly overhaul their forum rules


Why do you think we're the biggest site for SC.

I think i know why but i cant write about it here;) just joking
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
May 08 2011 19:29 GMT
#1824
--- Nuked ---
aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
May 08 2011 19:30 GMT
#1825
Ok, but not sure to understand the meaning of "inb4 warning"
Cocacooh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1510 Posts
May 08 2011 19:30 GMT
#1826
On May 09 2011 04:25 aXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:03 Happykola wrote:
I disagree with this action by teamliquid, i am in favour of freedom of speech and expression.

inb4 warning

User was warned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.


Just inquiring about warning/banning rules.

You can be ban if you disagree with TL on a matter?

I don't quite understand why this guy has been warned and banned but i'll happily heard any explanation.
If my post looks ironical, it is not, i don't quite control my word well as i am not a native speaker.

Its for martyring, aka "im going to get warned for this" or "im going to get banned for this".
RushWifDietCoke
Profile Joined May 2008
United States488 Posts
May 08 2011 19:30 GMT
#1827
I love Idra just as much as the next fanboy but lets face it. The TL staff has been more than fair to Greg in the past. Its generous that they still allow his stream to be featured on here and I thank them for that. Greg is known for not sugar coating anything and being brutally honest and so it comes with no surprise that he won't back down from what he perceives as the truth of the entire situation. TL has been willing to compromise with him but hes not willing to compromise back so at this point who can you really blame? Cooperating is an important social skill even if you "know" you are right, I wish he would coorperate just a little for the better of his fans and the community. I know it doesn't mean much but you have my support TL staff, for this decision.

That being said I still think Idra is the best non-Korean SC2 player and probably BW player. His analysis and grasp on the game is just insane. If you let Idra scout anything you have, you basically lose because he knows everything you're going to do. I hope he does decide to not hold a grudge and continue to stream with commentary. I've learned so much just from the 2-3 days that hes done that.
Nothing to it but to do it.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
May 08 2011 19:31 GMT
#1828
On May 09 2011 04:22 Mataru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:13 zeru wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:11 damod wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:08 zeru wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:06 aruken wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:04 PanN wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:02 kraft wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:01 zeru wrote:
On May 09 2011 03:58 Lumin wrote:
How did the moderation team decide on 90 days? Are there specific guidelines you guys adhere to? Or did you guys just ballpark it?

Also, if you're going to ban him for 90 days, why keep his stream featured? Is it because you still want the ad revenue coming in through from people that come here and click on Idra's stream?

If anything he should be thankful that his stream is still listed, and his TL stream page doesn't have any ads. It helps him more than it helps TL.


just having him on the stream list will bring tl traffic


Teamliquid doesn't need traffic.

believe me they need

Don't be arrogant and pretend to know about things you don't know.

dont diqualify others opinion without bringing your knowladge to the table and explain why they are wrong, not doing so pretty much makes you the arrogant one...

http://sitelatitude.com/teamliquid.net


Holy balls! over 600k unique viewers per day, that's pretty amazing. I had no idea TL was that big.


That site is just estimating, but I can tell you right now that it's wrong. TL still gets about 200k uniques per day though.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
damod
Profile Joined March 2011
1106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 19:38:34
May 08 2011 19:31 GMT
#1829
On May 09 2011 04:18 zeru wrote:
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On May 09 2011 04:16 aruken wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:09 SpiffD wrote:
This is great news. He doesn't post anything worth reading anyway. I only wish all the fanboys would get so upset they would leave TL forever ^_^

and then tl would the best forum

It already is, but it would be an even better forum

I'm amazed that he hasn't changed or matured over 7 years of time though, its quite ridiculous.

c'mon, why do you think he has so many followers and viewers ?
people find him pretty much unique and interesting based of his behaviour, him changing will result in not make him any different than any other good zerg player, but dont forget that people also love drama and thats pretty much a good reason for him not to change.

this thread is an amazingly good example why he does not need to change, in one day, a thread that had his name in the title and brought up an arguable discussion, scored nearly 2,000 of comments, and more than 200,000 viewers.

also stateing that the forum will be much better without idra and is fans is just playing complitly blind by hatered towards him.
EGHuK | EGJaeDong | EGMachine | EGiNcontroL | EGDemusliM | EGStephano <3
scares
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany239 Posts
May 08 2011 19:31 GMT
#1830
On May 09 2011 04:29 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:25 aXa wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:03 Happykola wrote:
I disagree with this action by teamliquid, i am in favour of freedom of speech and expression.

inb4 warning

User was warned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.


Just inquiring about warning/banning rules.

You can be ban if you disagree with TL on a matter?

I don't quite understand why this guy has been warned and banned but i'll happily heard any explanation.
If my post looks ironical, it is not, i don't quite control my word well as i am not a native speaker.


He was banned not for disagreeing with us, but for not following the site rules with his "inb4 warning" comment.



but come on it still is kind off harsh banning people for saying:" i will be banned for this" wouldn't it be better to show that you are unpredictable by not banning them?
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 08 2011 19:31 GMT
#1831
On May 09 2011 04:28 smileyface22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:22 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:17 Arkan wrote:
Frankly as one of the biggest sites for SC I think it time to completetly overhaul their forum rules


Why do you think we're the biggest site for SC.


Because you had the existing infrastructure and there's no other serious competitors?

Because they have the best moderated and most well mannered forums I've ever seen.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
May 08 2011 19:32 GMT
#1832
On May 09 2011 04:25 aXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:03 Happykola wrote:
I disagree with this action by teamliquid, i am in favour of freedom of speech and expression.

inb4 warning

User was warned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.


Just inquiring about warning/banning rules.

You can be ban if you disagree with TL on a matter?

I don't quite understand why this guy has been warned and banned but i'll happily heard any explanation.
If my post looks ironical, it is not, i don't quite control my word well as i am not a native speaker.


Well, for one, there's a policy about martyring, c'est-à-dire saying in your post "I'll probably get warned/banned for this". I think it's in the ten commandments as well, and it has always been like this.

And secondly, you can disagree with stuff all you want, but bringing obviously flawed/stupid arguments doesn't help your case.

All the reasons for bans (not warnings) can be seen in the ABL by the way. His post is here.
Always smile~
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 19:34:37
May 08 2011 19:33 GMT
#1833
--- Nuked ---
bobbob
Profile Joined December 2009
United States368 Posts
May 08 2011 19:33 GMT
#1834
On May 09 2011 04:25 aXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:03 Happykola wrote:
I disagree with this action by teamliquid, i am in favour of freedom of speech and expression.

inb4 warning

User was warned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.


Just inquiring about warning/banning rules.

You can be ban if you disagree with TL on a matter?

I don't quite understand why this guy has been warned and banned but i'll happily heard any explanation.
If my post looks ironical, it is not, i don't quite control my word well as i am not a native speaker.

If you say "I'm probably going to get banned/warned for this..." or like his "inb4 warning" Moderators will view it as a ban request at treat it as such. In the ban list sometimes you see the reason as 'by request' and that's usually because they wrote 'ban me I don't care' or similar.

So you can disagree, just don't be stupid about how you do it. Make it logical.
aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
May 08 2011 19:33 GMT
#1835
Ok, as i didn't understand what "inb4 warning" meant in the first place, i couldn't get why he got banned but now i get it thx
S.O.L.I.D.
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States792 Posts
May 08 2011 19:34 GMT
#1836
On May 09 2011 02:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 02:03 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:
On May 09 2011 02:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 09 2011 01:43 JBrown08 wrote:
On May 09 2011 01:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
hypothetical situation or not,why would someone not want their stream to be listed on TL unless you hypothetically assume TL is not the best SC community.

and no because if a person did not want TL to not list his stream he would tell them to not list his stream,why would he need JTV to file a DMCA.



Idra has told Teamliquid to not list his stream while he is banned; that is why they specifically stated in the original post that they are disregarding his wishes and listing it anyways.


Also solid,no I do not think the system should change,it's worked for the last 9 years and there were no problems with it.


There is a problem when people can get banned for making one post. What leads you to believe there isn't a problem? Just because people continue coming to the site? I love TL but the fact that there's no concrete, easily accessible ruleset is just a joke to me, I cannot comprehend it.


Actually if you really feel there needs to be a change go post in the website feedback forum where your post will actually be read.

As far as I care if you use common sense and post you won't get banned.


I've done that before iirc.

But the thing is, a post with 'common sense' means different things to different people. I've seen posts here that people get banned for that I personally wouldn't think warranted a ban at all. It's subjective, that's all I'm saying. Am I saying that it's all TL's fault? No, not at all. Do I think people should use common sense when they post? Of course. There just is not an objective, set-in-stone ruleset that governs this site, and to me personally, I see that as a problem.
Marzocchi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States58 Posts
May 08 2011 19:34 GMT
#1837
On May 09 2011 02:26 NoxiousNoodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 02:22 Marzocchi wrote:
More people are upset because they see Chill banning Idra for something he did on Justin, the Ladder or Twitter. NOT on a TL operated site.


He originally got banned for saying CrunCher was a waste of life, on the forums



Ahh. See, Team Liquid didn't post that in the notes they made about why he was banned. They just said he was banned, and everyone who came in a moment too late figured it was what he said on Twitter/Justin.

Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 08 2011 19:34 GMT
#1838
On May 09 2011 04:31 Elthreann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:29 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:25 aXa wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:03 Happykola wrote:
I disagree with this action by teamliquid, i am in favour of freedom of speech and expression.

inb4 warning

User was warned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.


Just inquiring about warning/banning rules.

You can be ban if you disagree with TL on a matter?

I don't quite understand why this guy has been warned and banned but i'll happily heard any explanation.
If my post looks ironical, it is not, i don't quite control my word well as i am not a native speaker.


He was banned not for disagreeing with us, but for not following the site rules with his "inb4 warning" comment.



but come on it still is kind off harsh banning people for saying:" i will be banned for this" wouldn't it be better to show that you are unpredictable by not banning them?

TL has a very simple policy about martyrs. If they think the moderators will ban them for their comments, the mods will ban them for their comments. It's that simple. If you think the mods will ban you for saying something, why even say it?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
May 08 2011 19:34 GMT
#1839
Hmm. Guess we could have seen this one coming after that tweet lol. Oh well guess we won't see some good flames from IdrA for awhile, good thing he can't be banned from twitter
EG | Liquid | Dignitas | FXO | SlayerS | TSL | iS | Fan of pretty much all players ^_^ | SeleCT <3 forever! Axslav <3
burster
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada66 Posts
May 08 2011 19:35 GMT
#1840
On May 09 2011 04:31 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:22 Mataru wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:13 zeru wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:11 damod wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:08 zeru wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:06 aruken wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:04 PanN wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:02 kraft wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:01 zeru wrote:
On May 09 2011 03:58 Lumin wrote:
How did the moderation team decide on 90 days? Are there specific guidelines you guys adhere to? Or did you guys just ballpark it?

Also, if you're going to ban him for 90 days, why keep his stream featured? Is it because you still want the ad revenue coming in through from people that come here and click on Idra's stream?

If anything he should be thankful that his stream is still listed, and his TL stream page doesn't have any ads. It helps him more than it helps TL.


just having him on the stream list will bring tl traffic


Teamliquid doesn't need traffic.

believe me they need

Don't be arrogant and pretend to know about things you don't know.

dont diqualify others opinion without bringing your knowladge to the table and explain why they are wrong, not doing so pretty much makes you the arrogant one...

http://sitelatitude.com/teamliquid.net


Holy balls! over 600k unique viewers per day, that's pretty amazing. I had no idea TL was that big.


That site is just estimating, but I can tell you right now that it's wrong. TL still gets about 200k uniques per day though.


good smiley selection
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