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Hello, all!

It's become quite apparent that many of you are not reading the first post carefully.

Failure to do so in the future will be met with swift punishment. And as always, remember to be civil.

Thanks,

Empyrean. Time stamp: 03:59 KST.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 19:19:18
May 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#1801
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#1802
On May 09 2011 04:09 tamoorazizgheba wrote:
this is BS! well, i hope he streams! GREG is undoubtedly the MOST POPULAR starcraft player EVER!!!
look how many fans and haters he has, its amazing. he is becoming the face of starcraft. i think as starcraft rises in north america so will greg and will celebrity in no time. i can see it coming.
people are jealous because of his success. my opinion. people are just jealous. i have seen people post so much BS and get nothing for it. well... its sad.


If somebody has so many haters, then he is definitely not the most popular player.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popularity

If it's about being the most well-known players, that's probably still boxer and/or some other korean sc1 bonjwas.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 19:19:28
May 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#1803
IdrA has fans?

serves him right though, should have been a perm ban for all i care
Piekny
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland95 Posts
May 08 2011 19:19 GMT
#1804
It's a good decision. Idra had it coming. Maybe it will make him grow up a little, and stop insulting people.
Luigy
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark43 Posts
May 08 2011 19:19 GMT
#1805
On May 09 2011 04:15 Grumbels wrote:
The idea that it is an assumption that Idra had any ill-intent with his twitter comment is like a mobster defending himself by saying he was merely suggesting his minions pay an enemy "a visit", not that they murder him.


With great power comes great responsibility. IdrA probably knew what his tweet would do.
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
May 08 2011 19:20 GMT
#1806
On May 09 2011 04:17 Arkan wrote:
Whole issue has been blown out of proportion. It's not like idrA made a thread about his disgust about Cruncher, it was isolated in the fan club page. I dont know why the admins feel such a need to moderate every word of every post so thoroughly. Frankly as one of the biggest sites for SC I think it time to completetly overhaul their forum rules, of course if they actually care about the expansion of eSports. If every visitor is banned for expressing their opinion I dont think were getting anywhere -.-


We don't want to "get anywhere," because TL was perfect before SC2 came out..
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
burster
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada66 Posts
May 08 2011 19:21 GMT
#1807
sidenote: can we get a ss of Chill's inbox?
"Rock is overpowered, but Paper is fine." - Scissors
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
May 08 2011 19:22 GMT
#1808
On May 09 2011 04:17 Arkan wrote:
Frankly as one of the biggest sites for SC I think it time to completetly overhaul their forum rules


Why do you think we're the biggest site for SC.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
aruken
Profile Joined March 2011
France348 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 19:23:48
May 08 2011 19:22 GMT
#1809
On May 09 2011 04:18 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:16 aruken wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:09 SpiffD wrote:
This is great news. He doesn't post anything worth reading anyway. I only wish all the fanboys would get so upset they would leave TL forever ^_^

and then tl would the best forum

It already is, but it would be an even better forum

I'm amazed that he hasn't changed or matured over 7 years of time though, its quite ridiculous.

oh you are misunderstanding idra quite a bit. He is a grown up, he is the real deal. sc2 would be a great community again once there is less idra haters (we need some...)
Mataru
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway356 Posts
May 08 2011 19:22 GMT
#1810
On May 09 2011 04:13 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:11 damod wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:08 zeru wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:06 aruken wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:04 PanN wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:02 kraft wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:01 zeru wrote:
On May 09 2011 03:58 Lumin wrote:
How did the moderation team decide on 90 days? Are there specific guidelines you guys adhere to? Or did you guys just ballpark it?

Also, if you're going to ban him for 90 days, why keep his stream featured? Is it because you still want the ad revenue coming in through from people that come here and click on Idra's stream?

If anything he should be thankful that his stream is still listed, and his TL stream page doesn't have any ads. It helps him more than it helps TL.


just having him on the stream list will bring tl traffic


Teamliquid doesn't need traffic.

believe me they need

Don't be arrogant and pretend to know about things you don't know.

dont diqualify others opinion without bringing your knowladge to the table and explain why they are wrong, not doing so pretty much makes you the arrogant one...

http://sitelatitude.com/teamliquid.net


Holy balls! over 600k unique viewers per day, that's pretty amazing. I had no idea TL was that big.
Proud citizen of ESPORTS
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 19:24:11
May 08 2011 19:23 GMT
#1811
On May 09 2011 04:18 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:09 tamoorazizgheba wrote:
this is BS! well, i hope he streams! GREG is undoubtedly the MOST POPULAR starcraft player EVER!!!
look how many fans and haters he has, its amazing. he is becoming the face of starcraft. i think as starcraft rises in north america so will greg and will celebrity in no time. i can see it coming.
people are jealous because of his success. my opinion. people are just jealous. i have seen people post so much BS and get nothing for it. well... its sad.


If somebody has so many haters, then he is definitely not the most popular player.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popularity

If it's about being the most well-known players, that's probably still boxer and/or some other korean sc1 bonjwas.

That's not very good logic. Anyone who has a certain number of fans will also have a large amount of haters. More fans ------> more well-known; more well-known ----> more haters.

By your logic Justin Bieber is not popular?
rzrNyx
Profile Joined February 2011
Russian Federation5 Posts
May 08 2011 19:24 GMT
#1812
I don't understand the initial ban either.

Idra said what he thought about Cruncher, so what? It wasn't even cursing - it was solely his opinion about another person. Why exactly should he be banned for this? To be honest it seems like TL is being biased towards Cruncher. If someone called me "waste of life" on the forums I wouldn't even react to this as I understand that this person don't even know anything about me.

Earlier in this thread TL said that it has no proof about Cruncher cheating (or not) in his stream and it seems they are ok with this. I don't understand this part either: maybe before banning anyone TL admins should have some sort of investigation on this matter?

It is clear though that TL would not change their decision because it will question their authority on such matters in the future.

P.S. I am not an Idra fan.

P.P.S. Sorry for my grammar, English isn't my native language.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
May 08 2011 19:24 GMT
#1813
On May 09 2011 04:17 Arkan wrote:
Whole issue has been blown out of proportion. It's not like idrA made a thread about his disgust about Cruncher, it was isolated in the fan club page. I dont know why the admins feel such a need to moderate every word of every post so thoroughly. Frankly as one of the biggest sites for SC I think it time to completetly overhaul their forum rules, of course if they actually care about the expansion of eSports. If every visitor is banned for expressing their opinion I dont think were getting anywhere -.-

If you think we need different rules and standards then start your own forum. Teamliquid got to where it is for being an amazing community of people with similar interests. And community members don't shit on each other.
Sup.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
May 08 2011 19:25 GMT
#1814
On May 09 2011 04:17 Arkan wrote:
Whole issue has been blown out of proportion. It's not like idrA made a thread about his disgust about Cruncher, it was isolated in the fan club page. I dont know why the admins feel such a need to moderate every word of every post so thoroughly. Frankly as one of the biggest sites for SC I think it time to completetly overhaul their forum rules, of course if they actually care about the expansion of eSports. If every visitor is banned for expressing their opinion I dont think were getting anywhere -.-


What makes you think allowing every negative poster to express their negative thoughts in any way helps teamliquid or esports? Do you want TL to be "just another website" or a place for high quality community driven content? Honestly it isn't difficult to follow the rules and post with at least a little bit of respect.
aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
May 08 2011 19:25 GMT
#1815
On May 09 2011 04:03 Happykola wrote:
I disagree with this action by teamliquid, i am in favour of freedom of speech and expression.

inb4 warning

User was warned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.


Just inquiring about warning/banning rules.

You can be ban if you disagree with TL on a matter?

I don't quite understand why this guy has been warned and banned but i'll happily heard any explanation.
If my post looks ironical, it is not, i don't quite control my word well as i am not a native speaker.
smileyface22
Profile Joined May 2011
8 Posts
May 08 2011 19:25 GMT
#1816
On May 09 2011 04:17 Arkan wrote:
Whole issue has been blown out of proportion. It's not like idrA made a thread about his disgust about Cruncher, it was isolated in the fan club page. I dont know why the admins feel such a need to moderate every word of every post so thoroughly. Frankly as one of the biggest sites for SC I think it time to completetly overhaul their forum rules, of course if they actually care about the expansion of eSports. If every visitor is banned for expressing their opinion I dont think were getting anywhere -.-


Yeah I think that's the thing that upsets me about the ban. I'm a fan of Idra, but really, he's just another player as far as the game goes. It's TL's outdated allegiance to this notion everyone has to dress their Sunday best on an internet forum that's distressing. As much as some people want to believe, the growth of e-sports (which is what I really really want to see) does not come down to regulating the internet sandbox (as some earlier poster so eloquently stated). And I'm worried they'll refuse to acknowledge that when they have such an incredible platform to move the scene forward.
Lumin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States217 Posts
May 08 2011 19:27 GMT
#1817
On May 09 2011 04:18 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:09 tamoorazizgheba wrote:
this is BS! well, i hope he streams! GREG is undoubtedly the MOST POPULAR starcraft player EVER!!!
look how many fans and haters he has, its amazing. he is becoming the face of starcraft. i think as starcraft rises in north america so will greg and will celebrity in no time. i can see it coming.
people are jealous because of his success. my opinion. people are just jealous. i have seen people post so much BS and get nothing for it. well... its sad.


If somebody has so many haters, then he is definitely not the most popular player.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popularity

If it's about being the most well-known players, that's probably still boxer and/or some other korean sc1 bonjwas.



zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
May 08 2011 19:27 GMT
#1818
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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
May 08 2011 19:28 GMT
#1819
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smileyface22
Profile Joined May 2011
8 Posts
May 08 2011 19:28 GMT
#1820
On May 09 2011 04:22 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:17 Arkan wrote:
Frankly as one of the biggest sites for SC I think it time to completetly overhaul their forum rules


Why do you think we're the biggest site for SC.


Because you had the existing infrastructure and there's no other serious competitors?
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