EPTAlso, if you're going to ban him for 90 days, why keep his stream featured? Is it because you still want the ad revenue coming in through from people that come here and click on Idra's stream?
Idra Banned for 90 Days - Page 89
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Lumin
United States217 Posts
Also, if you're going to ban him for 90 days, why keep his stream featured? Is it because you still want the ad revenue coming in through from people that come here and click on Idra's stream? | ||
Empyrean
17082 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:57 descartes wrote: But 90 days? wow.. you're going to ban him from streaming in the summer because of THIS? where sc could possibly get even more viewers consistently? seems a little much. I'd say 10 days but WOW. alll summer? holy crap... AND what about the fans? ...or you could read the first post and figure out that he's not banned from streaming. | ||
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zeru
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:57 descartes wrote: Reason: "We spoke with Idra and he stated that he does not regret his actions and will not change his behavior on our forums." Bottom line [imo] - Of corse he doesn't regret his actions, why would he? No point in holding that against him TL. But since it's your forum, he won't change his behavior, he keeps doing stuff like this, etc. then I guess it's his own fault. But 90 days? wow.. you're going to ban him from streaming in the summer because of THIS? where sc could possibly get even more viewers consistently? seems a little much. I'd say 10 days but WOW. alll summer? holy crap... AND what about the fans? over doing it in my opinion, he's a staple for the community and for your website, maybe that shouldn't be overlooked Please don't take the name of a famous philosopher if you don't have an open mind. You should know by now that that he can stream as much as he wants, even as featured. Also, teamliquid doesn't need idras viewers, and SC doesn't need more viewers, it'll grow on it's own. And if you looked at his banhistory, I'd hope you'd change your mind. | ||
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DiscoUnicorn
Sweden37 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:12 ThatGuy89 wrote: does anyone within these 85 pages actually think about how this affected idra? Up until recently i didnt rate idra at all (after all the flames with HuK and such) and even when he said that if he got 20k viewers for that SOTG he'd be commentating on his stream, that seemed really big headed. But when i watched him stream, i just saw him in a different light and no longer thought he was just a good player who cried that zerg were massively underpowered, but that he was possibly the best foreigner ive ever seen play. How do you think he felt towards cruncher? cruncher who is obviously no where near as good as idra, im not flaming, its a fact, and yet he knocks him out? and puts a smiley? Personally, id go find cruncher and kick him in the head. And then for him to snipe him on his stream (which i have nothing against) but im pretty certain he had the sound on and was cheating. So cruncher gets all this attention about beating idra and people laughing at idra and whatver. Being a progamer, im not surprised that idra would be annoyed. Saying what he said was maybe slightly unacceptable, but he obviously just feels very passionately about it, even if it only a video game. Personally im on team idra. He does so much for the community - in terms of him having 2-3 times more viewers on his stream then anyone else, and being a crowd favourite at tournaments and whatever. I just dont agree with this ban, but can see why you justify it? if he goes bash cruncher in ladder does he get his sentence reduced for good behaviour :D So just beacuse you are passionate about the game you are allowed to say that someone is a "waste of life"? In any other sport you would be suspended for that kind of talk. Why should this be any different? + If you look at his banhistory he clearly deserves it. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:58 Lumin wrote: How did the moderation team decide on 90 days? Are there specific guidelines you guys adhere to? Or did you guys just ballpark it? Also, if you're going to ban him for 90 days, why keep his stream featured? Is it because you still want the ad revenue coming in through from people that come here and click on Idra's stream? If you read the thread (which you didn't) you would find out that teamliquid canceled their ads on idras stream. | ||
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PeT[uK]
United States412 Posts
lmfao User was warned for this post | ||
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zeru
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buldermar
Denmark102 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:35 travis wrote: Idra posted that cruncher was cheating (which isn't an ok thing to say, especially for a professional, when they don't even have any evidence... and don't argue about this there wasn't evidence - watch the replay). Idra, in the same post, called him a "waste of life" and to "not give him attention[lol, the irony]". And so he was banned for 2 days. Omg, 2 days, that's like forever. Anyone, and I do mean anyone would have been banned for that if they had a posting history as bad as idra's. Doesn't change the fact that this is advocating active censur on opinions of persons or matters (false or true). The fact that you're advocating this for anyone doesn't improve on the matter. This is the type of censur and hierachy that conflicts coexisting controversial opinions about people and matters. It is a different matter when someone is verbally threatening someone else i.e if you don't do X then I will find you and kill you, but that was not the case here. I oppose this decision of banning someone who has always stated his opinion on matters from his subjective perspective without threatening anyone. From my perspective the vast majority of the mods, including Chill, are moronic clueless idiots that would have been happily wearing nazi symbols had they been born in Germany during WW2. Futhermore, I sincerely consider you, travis, solely based on your take on this matter, a little kid who used to be harrassed in school and now gets satisfaction from taking this on people stating their opinion. Now ban me, you waste of life. User was banned for this post. | ||
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kraft
Canada5 Posts
On May 09 2011 04:01 zeru wrote: If anything he should be thankful that his stream is still listed, and his TL stream page doesn't have any ads. It helps him more than it helps TL. just having him on the stream list will bring tl traffic | ||
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bubonj
3 Posts
Hate it or love it, polarizing personalities are great for publicity and I think TL recognizes that since they are still linking his stream. I personally, pride myself in not being such a douche, but entertainment is entertainment and I love a good laugh. As for the PM's to Chill, although I am assuming that a large number of PM's were distasteful, like someone mentioned above that is the nature of the beast but what bothers me most is that I have been robbed of a potential 90 days of potential nerd rage entertainment. | ||
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Happykola
United Kingdom62 Posts
inb4 warning User was warned for this post User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Lumin
United States217 Posts
On May 09 2011 04:00 PanN wrote: If you read the thread (which you didn't) you would find out that teamliquid canceled their ads on idras stream. If you read what I wrote (which you didn't), you would understand that some people come to TL, and click on the streams located on the right hand side of the screen. Do you not notice there's an advertisement on TL? Located near the top center of any part of the website? Canceling ads on idra's stream doesn't affect their website's ads now does it? | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On May 09 2011 04:02 kraft wrote: just having him on the stream list will bring tl traffic Teamliquid doesn't need traffic. | ||
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zeru
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:58 Lumin wrote: Also, if you're going to ban him for 90 days, why keep his stream featured? Is it because you still want the ad revenue coming in through from people that come here and click on Idra's stream? No. Did you even read the OP? Besides, this issue was specifically brought up by idra and addressed by our admins. | ||
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nekuodah
England2409 Posts
On May 09 2011 04:03 Happykola wrote: I disagree with this action by teamliquid, i am in favour of freedom of speech and expression. inb4 warning Never put what you put at the end of ur post, read the rules its martyring  , anyway although i dont completely agree with his initial ban, his behaviour afterwards wasn't acceptable really and i think this is justified. | ||
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Cocacooh
Norway1510 Posts
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On May 09 2011 04:03 Lumin wrote: If you read what I wrote (which you didn't), you would understand that some people come to TL, and click on the streams located on the right hand side of the screen. Do you not notice there's an advertisement on TL? Located near the top center of any part of the website? Canceling ads on idra's stream doesn't affect their website's ads now does it? If you read the thread (which you didn't) multiple people say the ads won't effect teamliquid. Also, they don't need direct traffic ads, thats stupid, this site is gigantic and IdrA's not bringing anything to the table. | ||
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smileyface22
8 Posts
On May 09 2011 04:01 zeru wrote: If anything he should be thankful that his stream is still listed, and his TL stream page doesn't have any ads. It helps him more than it helps TL. I thought Idra specifically asked them to remove it from their site and have so far refused that request. Weird. | ||
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But i agree on the big picture, dont know why he keeps this up, maybe he is addicted to the forums and wants a forced break or idk. Great player, great mind, great words, but sometimes seems like he provokes people... he wouldnt have to have to prove anything.
