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) i'll assume he acted like an idiot in the conversation that took place afterwards, but if not 90 days seemed pretty harsh. Little doubt in my eyes however that cruncher should also receive some sort of penatly. (sometimes suspcision is as good as proof, it was pretty obvious...)Idra Banned for 90 Days - Page 87
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LinYu)Fury
Norway200 Posts
) i'll assume he acted like an idiot in the conversation that took place afterwards, but if not 90 days seemed pretty harsh. Little doubt in my eyes however that cruncher should also receive some sort of penatly. (sometimes suspcision is as good as proof, it was pretty obvious...) | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:30 shinarit wrote: Well, the tweet accident happened AFTER his ban, right? So actually yeah, we would have avoid those hundreds of messages  But i agree on the big picture, dont know why he keeps this up, maybe he is addicted to the forums and wants a forced break or idk. Great player, great mind, great words, but sometimes seems like he provokes people... he wouldnt have to have to prove anything.Idra posted that cruncher was cheating (which isn't an ok thing to say, especially for a professional, when they don't even have any evidence... and don't argue about this there wasn't evidence - watch the replay). Idra, in the same post, called him a "waste of life" and to "not give him attention[lol, the irony]". And so he was banned for 2 days. Omg, 2 days, that's like forever. Anyone, and I do mean anyone would have been banned for that if they had a posting history as bad as idra's. | ||
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Nerdslayer
Denmark1130 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:33 LinYu)Fury wrote: IdrA ^_^ no idea how many pm's you got chill, but when i read his twitter post, i just thought it was kinda funny :p (wrong, but in classic idra fasion tho ) i'll assume he acted like an idiot in the conversation that took place afterwards, but if not 90 days seemed pretty harsh. Little doubt in my eyes however that cruncher should also receive some sort of penatly. (sometimes suspcision is as good as proof, it was pretty obvious...)Yea sure while you at it why dont we just redo the hole system of justice. Who needs a trial and actual evidence lets just hang the man, so much easier.. | ||
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keeblur
United States826 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:33 LinYu)Fury wrote: IdrA ^_^ no idea how many pm's you got chill, but when i read his twitter post, i just thought it was kinda funny :p (wrong, but in classic idra fasion tho ) i'll assume he acted like an idiot in the conversation that took place afterwards, but if not 90 days seemed pretty harsh. Little doubt in my eyes however that cruncher should also receive some sort of penatly. (sometimes suspcision is as good as proof, it was pretty obvious...)Assume much? | ||
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:32 Luigy wrote: That is a tiny bit hard to imagine when you think about Cruncher won wow just read what you said there...... idra lost to cruncher so cruncher >>> idra are you serious? Look! ret beat MC in NASL, that means ret >>> mc think about what youre saying before you say it | ||
flamewheel
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:31 buldermar wrote: Everyone except the gods.. uhm sry I meant mods. Actually the mods follow them too except in a few special exceptions. But even if they don't, so what? They are the freaking mods. And are you actually trying to complain that the mods behave poorly? Get real. | ||
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leakingpear
United Kingdom302 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:33 LinYu)Fury wrote: (sometimes suspcision is as good as proof, it was pretty obvious...) No. Just no. | ||
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Luigy
Denmark43 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:36 ThatGuy89 wrote: wow just read what you said there...... idra lost to cruncher so cruncher >>> idra are you serious? Look! ret beat MC in NASL, that means ret >>> mc think about what youre saying before you say it Obviously, at that time Ret must have been better than MC. | ||
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Spekulatius
Germany2413 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:33 StarcraftXTZM wrote: i wonder if Idra has something to do with these unstable servers. And just when I was entirely sure nothing good can come out of this thread, you make me laugh. Thank you, good sir! | ||
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GhiZ
Norway7 Posts
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Mataru
Norway356 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:20 ThatGuy89 wrote: also, im sure chill would have banned idra if he sneezed the wrong way. Idra does have the tendancey to flame chill (the combatex series comes to mind) I always rated TL highly, but this is just very low of liquid, not surprised after tylers arrogant show on SOTG tbh, liquid are always gonna be sour towards EG now (even though EG did NOTHING wrong) *awaits warn/ban hammer* This has nothing to do with EG. Jesus we all like to watch Idra play, and on shows like SotG he seems really cool, if a taaaad biased, but this does not mean that he is somehow exempt to the rules that apply to EVERYONE who posts on TL.net. | ||
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smileyface22
8 Posts
Listen, I've always been somewhat of a gamer and fascinated with the growth of the E-sports scene in west. TL has done an extremely commendable thing the last 10 years, and their standards of conduct have kept their forums a place that warrants admiration. But the community is evolving, and TL needs to consider whether it's going to evolve with them. Broodwar in the west never even approached the amount of popularity sc2 already enjoys. A lot of people complain about Idra's behavior as being unprofessional/childish, yet the guy retains an enormous following and seems to get more everyday. Why? Because in addition to being pretty good, he actively breaks this Arthurian paradigm of the eastern gamer TL and the old-guard community loves so much: the no-emotion, perfectly mannered/polite automaton. Then you have Idra. Some people have said things akin to- " well if this was the real world, Idra would never get away with the things he does!" Please. Go to a basketball game with Kevin Garnett. Read player interviews before NFL Sunday. Go to a hockey game. On this internet forum, a pro can't call someone a "waste of life" when legitimately provoked (too much hyperbole to even be brooked as an actual insult) but athletes in that sport can actively try and pummel someone's face in as an aside to the actual game? Remove fighting from hockey and see how much their viewership drops. TLDR. No man can have everything he wants the way he wants it. Decide on your philosophy now. Slightly improve upon the small box of viewership Broodwar enjoyed along with mimicking it's lofty ideals? Or recognize that players like Idra represent something a lot of people actually want to see, something that represents an avenue to achieve legitimacy in this hemisphere. Idra's fan club was at 500 (?) pages before it's lock? The next closest was what, 400+ pages behind? There's something there. Also, continuing to feature Idra's stream while still banning him for 90 days is an efficient way of undermining your credibility on this issue. You and others disagree with the behavior he embodies....but you still value the accompanying traffic and viewership he brings to this website. Hmm. Despite all of TL's posturing, it seems they still understand the golden rule of cultivating any mass medium: viewers are all that matters. | ||
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:37 Luigy wrote: Obviously, at that time Ret must have been better than MC. think im done talking to you right now. This is just absurd logic. I agree that you can say ret played better in that series but you just cannot say hes better then him.. if that were the case, every series in every tournament would be 2-0 or 3-0 or or 4-0 youd never have the 'worse' player taking a game off the 'better' player | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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sLiMpoweR
United States430 Posts
Well guess what people? Your all wrong. Your wrong because there is no "right" answer. Its a moral dilemma. The matter of the fact is Idra and chill have a little war, chill banes idra, idra takes it a step to far (in tl's eyes) and sicks his pests on chill. Stop trying to win an un-winnable argument. | ||
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Luigy
Denmark43 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:41 ThatGuy89 wrote: think im done talking to you right now. This is just absurd logic. I agree that you can say ret played better in that series but you just cannot say hes better then him.. if that were the case, every series in every tournament would be 2-0 or 3-0 or or 4-0 youd never have the 'worse' player taking a game off the 'better' player What i meant with it was, whether it was luck or what it was, he must have been playing better in that specific series. Else how the hell would he have won? | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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ZaaaaaM
Netherlands1828 Posts
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
Check his banlog HERE and you'll understand. | ||
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