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Hello, all!

It's become quite apparent that many of you are not reading the first post carefully.

Failure to do so in the future will be met with swift punishment. And as always, remember to be civil.

Thanks,

Empyrean. Time stamp: 03:59 KST.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 07 2011 21:55 GMT
#41
On May 08 2011 06:53 shmee wrote:
I completely understand banning idra for his incendiary behavior, but has Team Liquid taken any action to punish Cruncher for ghosting idra's stream, which was the thing that started this whole mess? Does teamliquid have any kind of statement in regards to that?


There is nothing wrong with stream sniping and there is no evidence that Cruncher did anything more than that. Why should he be punished?
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Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
May 07 2011 21:55 GMT
#42
I think IdrA should be forced to sing Rebecca Black's "Friday" at MLG Columbus, in lieu of a 90-day ban. :D
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
smallerk
Profile Joined October 2010
897 Posts
May 07 2011 21:55 GMT
#43
Well, what is there to discuss that wont get you banned, honestly?

And this is not going to stop, its just who he is and one of the many reasons why he is the player with the biggest fanbase outhere.

I watched his stream the first time he did it for the day ( about 9/10pm for EU), and one of the last games was cruncher beating him, countering a roach ling all in without any scouting.
Never Regret anything because at one time it was exactly what you wanted.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
May 07 2011 21:55 GMT
#44
On May 08 2011 06:54 Thermia wrote:
I'm not sure it's the best policy to ban people for things they do off the site, but I guess it's *somewhat* justified since the mods asked if he regretted saying things/won't change his behavior. Although, let's be real here, I don't think anyone at all expected a different answer to those questions. It seems like Idra has a history of making insulting posts, being temp banned (sometimes with a snide or possibly rude comment from the mod doing it), and then Idra insulting said mod when he is back. It just creates a cycle that Idra doesn't care to break, and TL cannot break because it would compromise their forum standards

TL has a history of banning people for things they do off the site. Combat-Ex was banned for harassing Incontrol on SC2. 4 people were banned for leaving someone stranded at a lan.
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xen0cide
Profile Joined February 2011
United States13 Posts
May 07 2011 21:56 GMT
#45
IdrA posted usually when he was angry about something so..
mrblue182
Profile Joined April 2010
United States151 Posts
May 07 2011 21:56 GMT
#46
On May 08 2011 06:52 vict1019 wrote:
Whats wrong with telling people to confront moderators if they're banned? When someone tells the masses to write a letter to their congressman because they're upset with something they should be "banned"?


It would be more like telling everyone to call up and harass a police officer for arresting someone who broke the law. He broke the rules of teamliquid, and recieved a ban for it, that's how it works.
staxringold
Profile Joined October 2010
United States173 Posts
May 07 2011 21:56 GMT
#47
On May 08 2011 06:54 Thermia wrote:
I'm not sure it's the best policy to ban people for things they do off the site, but I guess it's *somewhat* justified since the mods asked if he regretted saying things/won't change his behavior. Although, let's be real here, I don't think anyone at all expected a different answer to those questions. It seems like Idra has a history of making insulting posts, being temp banned (sometimes with a snide or possibly rude comment from the mod doing it), and then Idra insulting said mod when he is back. It just creates a cycle that Idra doesn't care to break, and TL cannot break because it would compromise their forum standards


As I read it it's not for what he did off site but for the on site behavior he incited. It's like murder for hire, he didn't pull the trigger, but he caused it to be pulled.
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-07 21:56:49
May 07 2011 21:56 GMT
#48
On May 08 2011 06:54 Thermia wrote:
I'm not sure it's the best policy to ban people for things they do off the site, but I guess it's *somewhat* justified since the mods asked if he regretted saying things/won't change his behavior. Although, let's be real here, I don't think anyone at all expected a different answer to those questions. It seems like Idra has a history of making insulting posts, being temp banned (sometimes with a snide or possibly rude comment from the mod doing it), and then Idra insulting said mod when he is back. It just creates a cycle that Idra doesn't care to break, and TL cannot break because it would compromise their forum standards


from my understanding he was banned for doing things on TL and additionally calling people to message admins on TL while technicaly being "off the site" is definitely related to TL as well.
Fortitudosc
Profile Joined March 2011
United States7 Posts
May 07 2011 21:56 GMT
#49
That's Idra for you
Can't wait for him to stream again
Sc2ttyl
Profile Joined October 2010
United States245 Posts
May 07 2011 21:56 GMT
#50
Its pathetic that you all are saying "he deserves it" "i wish he would grow up"... IdrA acts the way he does because of people like you all (americans) who think they are good at this game. You all are really not, just look at koreans, they actually know what they are doing. After adoring IdrA's stream for a long time now, i really do realize what he means... US "pros" are no where near the level of koreans. IdrA actually laughed during one of his streams playing these "top players" on ladder because of their terrible decision making. The only reason they are here at all (US Pros) is becuase of the uber popularity of sc2. Sc2 is popular for the exact reason that its "easy" to get a high level with MUCH less effort than scBW. None of these players could even touch some renowned veteran in SCBW like Flash or Jaedong. IdrA is the only player from the US who is allowd to say that he is good because he really knows what hes doing. I love all these people on there forums who think they know better and then go back and ladder on their accounts and think they are good. Go try BW and then see how good you are... oh wait, you didnt because it wasnt easy to macro/mico


IdrA I understand you bro, dont think everyone is stupid because I realize what you say and back you up 100%. Just laugh at all these people while you get rich playing this game and win out in the long run. I dont see anybody from the U.S in the gsl...

User was temp banned for this post.
yo
Dispersion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Korea (South)504 Posts
May 07 2011 21:57 GMT
#51
As an IdrA fan, I think this was probably necessary, just hope he doesn't quit streaming for three months.
Don't worry. Taht's just Halo
SwordfishConspiracy
Profile Joined December 2010
United States146 Posts
May 07 2011 21:57 GMT
#52
On May 08 2011 06:52 vict1019 wrote:
Whats wrong with telling people to confront moderators if they're banned? When someone tells the masses to write a letter to their congressman because they're upset with something they should be "banned"?


When people write letters to a congressman because they're upset with something, they are trying to accomplish something constructive and giving their position. IdrA isn't asking people to calmly explain their position to Chill, and even if he was, that's not what they're going to do. They're just going to spam and harass him and complain. Nothing constructive about that.
SwordfishConspiracy
smallerk
Profile Joined October 2010
897 Posts
May 07 2011 21:58 GMT
#53
On May 08 2011 06:56 staxringold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 06:54 Thermia wrote:
I'm not sure it's the best policy to ban people for things they do off the site, but I guess it's *somewhat* justified since the mods asked if he regretted saying things/won't change his behavior. Although, let's be real here, I don't think anyone at all expected a different answer to those questions. It seems like Idra has a history of making insulting posts, being temp banned (sometimes with a snide or possibly rude comment from the mod doing it), and then Idra insulting said mod when he is back. It just creates a cycle that Idra doesn't care to break, and TL cannot break because it would compromise their forum standards


As I read it it's not for what he did off site but for the on site behavior he incited. It's like murder for hire, he didn't pull the trigger, but he caused it to be pulled.


Yeah but that was after he got banned, he got banned because he called cruncher a waste of life.Can't say i blame him after all, the guy is ghosting his stream with 10k people watching.
Never Regret anything because at one time it was exactly what you wanted.
baeric
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany649 Posts
May 07 2011 21:58 GMT
#54
On May 08 2011 06:56 Fortitudosc wrote:
That's Idra for you
Can't wait for him to stream again


you have to do the cruncher smiley:

shmee
Profile Joined April 2011
United States28 Posts
May 07 2011 21:59 GMT
#55
On May 08 2011 06:55 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 06:53 shmee wrote:
I completely understand banning idra for his incendiary behavior, but has Team Liquid taken any action to punish Cruncher for ghosting idra's stream, which was the thing that started this whole mess? Does teamliquid have any kind of statement in regards to that?

There's nothing wrong with joining the ladder at the same time as someone else. What action could we possibly take against that?


So if you were streaming, and you got matched up against idra, and he magically knew everything you were doing only to find out later that he was checking your stream to see everything you were doing, you wouldn't have any problem with that?
"It's a comedian's duty to find out where people draw the line and then cross it deliberately." - George Carlin
staxringold
Profile Joined October 2010
United States173 Posts
May 07 2011 21:59 GMT
#56
On May 08 2011 06:58 smallerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 06:56 staxringold wrote:
On May 08 2011 06:54 Thermia wrote:
I'm not sure it's the best policy to ban people for things they do off the site, but I guess it's *somewhat* justified since the mods asked if he regretted saying things/won't change his behavior. Although, let's be real here, I don't think anyone at all expected a different answer to those questions. It seems like Idra has a history of making insulting posts, being temp banned (sometimes with a snide or possibly rude comment from the mod doing it), and then Idra insulting said mod when he is back. It just creates a cycle that Idra doesn't care to break, and TL cannot break because it would compromise their forum standards


As I read it it's not for what he did off site but for the on site behavior he incited. It's like murder for hire, he didn't pull the trigger, but he caused it to be pulled.


Yeah but that was after he got banned, he got banned because he called cruncher a waste of life.Can't say i blame him after all, the guy is ghosting his stream with 10k people watching.

I missed the whole Idra/Cruncher streamwatching fiasco that led to that ban so I can't speak to that. But his actions afterwards are bannable regardless, as the OP says.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
May 07 2011 21:59 GMT
#57
On May 08 2011 06:53 shmee wrote:
I completely understand banning idra for his incendiary behavior, but has Team Liquid taken any action to punish Cruncher for ghosting idra's stream, which was the thing that started this whole mess? Does teamliquid have any kind of statement in regards to that?

Currently we do not have definitive proof that Cruncher was stream hacking. We don't have a fully fleshed out policy against stream hacking currently, but if there was definite proof we'd probably take action. We've always been very hard on cheaters in the past but only when we know for sure they were cheating. We banned DIMAGA and many other big names from TSL3. If any community is unforgiving against cheaters, it's us. There just wasn't enough evidence this time.

As for queuing at the same time as someone, we don't care about that. Stream shenanigans like that happen, and all players who stream know this. It's not that hard to set up a delay or to just turn off your stream if you care enough.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
May 07 2011 21:59 GMT
#58
Can't agreed more with this ban. However, I think allowing his stream to still be listed is a mistake ;/. I think banning his stream for 90 days as well would make him think twice about misconduct.
TL+ Member
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
May 07 2011 21:59 GMT
#59
I wonder if EG sponsors have an opinion about Idra's behavior. sure a little BM is fine. but what Idra does reflects on the sponsors as well. I cant imagine them being very happy with this continued behavior.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
May 07 2011 22:00 GMT
#60
Why don't you just pull the trigger and perma ban him already?
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
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