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If the whole human race was to turn gay and not have sexual intercourse with someone of the opposite sex, we would effectively kill the entire human population. Having straight intercourse is centrally important to any species that is not a-sexual. Its one of our main roles while being a human (as with any animal), to have children. I would argue that there is obviously something wrong with being homosexual (aka not natural), in terms of how species survive. How do feel about this situation?
In terms of you being born gay, it is almost as if natural selection tries to weed homosexuality out of the gene pool, because gay couples cant have children, and therefore cant pass down their genes, that is "if" you are born gay.
Something to think about... and I'd love to know peoples opinions on this topic, not just the typical "omg how could you think that way".
Just to note, I do not hate homosexual people, I am merely stating things I see in nature.
Also I'd appreciate not having this post immediately removed, as i feel i should be allowed to speak my mind.. just as much as the people comparing homosexuality to races.
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On May 19 2011 06:56 krbz wrote:
If the whole human race was to turn gay and not have sexual intercourse with someone of the opposite sex, we would effectively kill the entire human population. Having straight intercourse is centrally important to any species that is not a-sexual. Its one of our main roles while being a human (as with any animal), to have children. I would argue that there is obviously something wrong with being homosexual (aka not natural), in terms of how species survive. How do feel about this situation?
In terms of you being born gay, it is almost as if natural selection tries to weed homosexuality out of the gene pool, because gay couples cant have children, and therefore cant pass down their genes, that is "if" you are born gay.
Something to think about... and I'd love to know peoples opinions on this topic, not just the typical "omg how could you think that way".
Just to note, I do not hate homosexual people, I am merely stating things I see in nature.
Also I'd appreciate not having this post immediately removed, as i feel i should be allowed to speak my mind.. just as much as the people comparing homosexuality to races.
Can you speak your mind on a forum devoted to retarded discussions about shit like that. Honestly it's a thread for gay people, not people "speaking their mind" about how homosexuality is bad because if everyone was gay it would wipe out the human population. There are literally millions of posts that describe exactly the same thing you are.
In terms of you being born gay, it is almost as if natural selection tries to weed homosexuality out of the gene pool, because gay couples cant have children, and therefore cant pass down their genes, that is "if" you are born gay.
I'm sure everyone here decided one day to suddenly be attracted to the same sex because the opposite sex was getting boring
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On May 19 2011 06:56 krbz wrote:
If the whole human race was to turn gay and not have sexual intercourse with someone of the opposite sex, we would effectively kill the entire human population. Having straight intercourse is centrally important to any species that is not a-sexual. Its one of our main roles while being a human (as with any animal), to have children. I would argue that there is obviously something wrong with being homosexual (aka not natural), in terms of how species survive. How do feel about this situation?
In terms of you being born gay, it is almost as if natural selection tries to weed homosexuality out of the gene pool, because gay couples cant have children, and therefore cant pass down their genes, that is "if" you are born gay.
Something to think about... and I'd love to know peoples opinions on this topic, not just the typical "omg how could you think that way".
Just to note, I do not hate homosexual people, I am merely stating things I see in nature.
Also I'd appreciate not having this post immediately removed, as i feel i should be allowed to speak my mind.. just as much as the people comparing homosexuality to races.
Well the problem here is your use of "obviously something wrong with being homosexual (aka not natural) " .
First thing i would question here is: What is it to be natural?
It seems like a very loosely defined term. You see homosexuality in the wild and we as humans are natural beings. I, from this observation would have to conclude that homosexuality is totally natural is it not?
On another tangent , that isn't exactly how genes work and yet more importantly i never chose to be attracted to women, did you? I'd just have to take for granted that some people are just attracted to the same sex. I have no reason to believe anything else.
Also your comment about our role, I'm not entirely sure. Does it matter? Is it relevant? Perhaps it's your role but i wouldn't just assume it's everyones role. I'd prefer to think we pick our own roles. :3
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On May 19 2011 06:56 krbz wrote:
I would argue that there is obviously something wrong with being homosexual (aka not natural), in terms of how species survive. How do feel about this situation?
What if homosexuality is nature's way of dealing with overpopulation?
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On May 19 2011 06:47 jarrydesque wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 05:51 FearTheReaperMan wrote:
What I dont understand about be a gay man, what is appealing about it ? And plus an alot more but.. How do u have fun sucking @$@# and getting your #$#@ pushed? That just sounds like a terrible time... Cute. Straight people do it too you know. Don't pretend you've never watched a porno with a pretty blonde taking it from all ends. And then don't pretend that you didn't enjoy it. It's quite nice - you should try it some time. You might find that you like it. And you know what? It does not even make you gay! Neat, hey?
No I highly doubt it. I def wouldnt enjoy that... I think that when a chick gets it up the rear its not attractive. I dont enjoying watching that shit, nor would i like it and nor do i want shit on my dick. Anal is straight up disgusting.
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On May 19 2011 07:06 R1CH wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 06:56 krbz wrote:
I would argue that there is obviously something wrong with being homosexual (aka not natural), in terms of how species survive. How do feel about this situation? What if homosexuality is nature's way of dealing with overpopulation?
I'd argue that disease and famine are natures methods for controlling population, because if homosexuality ever "got out of hand", it could force the human race into extinction.
If it was a method of controlling population that still makes it something that should only happen in an unhealthy population. For, as your argument states, if we weren't overpopulated we wouldn't need or have gay people. They are not normal for a healthy population.
On May 19 2011 07:00 dunc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 06:56 krbz wrote:
If the whole human race was to turn gay and not have sexual intercourse with someone of the opposite sex, we would effectively kill the entire human population. Having straight intercourse is centrally important to any species that is not a-sexual. Its one of our main roles while being a human (as with any animal), to have children. I would argue that there is obviously something wrong with being homosexual (aka not natural), in terms of how species survive. How do feel about this situation?
In terms of you being born gay, it is almost as if natural selection tries to weed homosexuality out of the gene pool, because gay couples cant have children, and therefore cant pass down their genes, that is "if" you are born gay.
Something to think about... and I'd love to know peoples opinions on this topic, not just the typical "omg how could you think that way".
Just to note, I do not hate homosexual people, I am merely stating things I see in nature.
Also I'd appreciate not having this post immediately removed, as i feel i should be allowed to speak my mind.. just as much as the people comparing homosexuality to races. Can you speak your mind on a forum devoted to retarded discussions about shit like that. Honestly it's a thread for gay people, not people "speaking their mind" about how homosexuality is bad because if everyone was gay it would wipe out the human population. There are literally millions of posts that describe exactly the same thing you are. Show nested quote +In terms of you being born gay, it is almost as if natural selection tries to weed homosexuality out of the gene pool, because gay couples cant have children, and therefore cant pass down their genes, that is "if" you are born gay. I'm sure everyone here decided one day to suddenly be attracted to the same sex because the opposite sex was getting boring .
I'd appreciate it if you didn't post ill formed responses, bashing what i think. My discussion is in no way "retarded", as i gave valid examples of what i thought, and then asked the people of this thread for their opinions on the matter.
"I'm sure everyone here decided one day to suddenly be attracted to the same sex because the opposite sex was getting boring"
This has nothing to do with natural selection and i would appreciate it if you shut your mouth, and did not respond with useless nonsense. You should take a lesson from R1CH.
He posed a question and did not bash or flame a single thing. You are very unproductive.
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On May 19 2011 07:37 krbz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 07:06 R1CH wrote:On May 19 2011 06:56 krbz wrote:
I would argue that there is obviously something wrong with being homosexual (aka not natural), in terms of how species survive. How do feel about this situation? What if homosexuality is nature's way of dealing with overpopulation? I'd argue that disease and famine are natures methods for controlling population, because if homosexuality ever "got out of hand", it could force the human race into extinction.
You realize that if this ever happened (which is kind of funny to think about), a gay man could still have sex with a lesbian, right?
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On May 19 2011 07:51 Bortlett wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 07:37 krbz wrote:On May 19 2011 07:06 R1CH wrote:On May 19 2011 06:56 krbz wrote:
I would argue that there is obviously something wrong with being homosexual (aka not natural), in terms of how species survive. How do feel about this situation? What if homosexuality is nature's way of dealing with overpopulation? I'd argue that disease and famine are natures methods for controlling population, because if homosexuality ever "got out of hand", it could force the human race into extinction. You realize that if this ever happened (which is kind of funny to think about), a gay man could still have sex with a lesbian, right?
so are you gay or are you bi?
if you are gay then you are going against what you like, and if you are willing to do that then why do you consider yourself gay and not bi?
I was only speaking in terms of a purely homosexual society. One were they refuse to have sex with their opposite. If everyone thought of the opposite sex with the same disgust as Mora does.
"You understand that disgust because you’ve experienced it in the other direction – that the thought of sticking my tongue inside a dank vagina made me want to puke. That when i would watch straight porn, and see the tits bouncing around, i would lose my erection."
If everyone thought like him we would not see a next generation.
And on that note Mora, maybe you should try finding decent women, and not (the apparently) nasty sluts you have acquainted yourself with (aka "dank vaginas"). You don't like being discriminated against but yet you label all vaginas "dank". That is extremely rude.
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On May 19 2011 06:56 krbz wrote:
If the whole human race was to turn gay and not have sexual intercourse with someone of the opposite sex, we would effectively kill the entire human population. Having straight intercourse is centrally important to any species that is not a-sexual. Its one of our main roles while being a human (as with any animal), to have children. I would argue that there is obviously something wrong with being homosexual (aka not natural), in terms of how species survive. How do feel about this situation?
In terms of you being born gay, it is almost as if natural selection tries to weed homosexuality out of the gene pool, because gay couples cant have children, and therefore cant pass down their genes, that is "if" you are born gay.
Something to think about... and I'd love to know peoples opinions on this topic, not just the typical "omg how could you think that way".
Just to note, I do not hate homosexual people, I am merely stating things I see in nature.
Also I'd appreciate not having this post immediately removed, as i feel i should be allowed to speak my mind.. just as much as the people comparing homosexuality to races.
Almost everything you want to know here:
http://www.seop.leeds.ac.uk/entries/homosexuality/
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On May 19 2011 07:58 krbz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 07:51 Bortlett wrote:On May 19 2011 07:37 krbz wrote:On May 19 2011 07:06 R1CH wrote:On May 19 2011 06:56 krbz wrote:
I would argue that there is obviously something wrong with being homosexual (aka not natural), in terms of how species survive. How do feel about this situation? What if homosexuality is nature's way of dealing with overpopulation? I'd argue that disease and famine are natures methods for controlling population, because if homosexuality ever "got out of hand", it could force the human race into extinction. You realize that if this ever happened (which is kind of funny to think about), a gay man could still have sex with a lesbian, right? so are you gay or are you bi? if you are gay then you are going against what you like, and if you are willing to do that then why do you consider yourself gay and not bi? I was only speaking in terms of a purely homosexual society. One were they refuse to have sex with their opposite. If everyone thought of the opposite sex with the same disgust as Mora does. "You understand that disgust because you’ve experienced it in the other direction – that the thought of sticking my tongue inside a dank vagina made me want to puke. That when i would watch straight porn, and see the tits bouncing around, i would lose my erection." If everyone thought like him we would not see a next generation.
I am gay, and I can't speak for Mora (or anybody else), but if it came down to the extinction of the human race, I would have sex with women to procreate. I probably wouldn't enjoy it all that much, but I could put up with it. I am not disgusted by women at all, I'm just not sexually attracted to them in any way, that's why I consider myself gay rather than bi.
Assuming that there is a genetic component to homosexuality, just because it's a negative mutation doesn't make it "wrong". It happens in nature all the time. We don't consider bad eyesight unnatural or wrong.
I don't think homosexuality has anything to do with curbing overpopulation, if it is, it doesn't fit that purpose all that well. There just aren't enough gay people to do that.
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So my last account was banned because I put up a thread asking if IdrA is gay. I think he is a narcissitic gay guy in denial. I also think Ret and Day9 is gay, even if Day9 has a gf. Jaedong, Savior too. So yeah, by my simple definition, any person who at some point experiences same sex attraction is gay, no matter how rarely, no matter if heterosexual experiences are had, regardless of gender (transsexual to macho scale). To be gay, or homosexual, is genetically determined, in fact, it is highly heritable, there is a 50% chance that if one identical twin is gay, so is the other. Compare this to a optimistic estimate of 10% of the population being lesbian or gay (bi, transgendered etc), and you see that heredity is crucial. This is pretty much the best science has to say about homosexuality.
About me. I am pretty sure both my mother and father were homosexuals, and I am an only child of a bitter marriage. I have been with over a dozen women, some older, some younger. I had a transsexual phase, but I am generally your average sport liking steak eating, flaming starcarft nerd. I have been with some lesbian ( I dont care if they only have sex with men, I can tell they are because they just lay there and do not enjoy themselves) and some straight women, and I tell you, I only enjoy sex with straight women, but they usually need a boyfriend they can emotionally connect well with (not gay like me) so I am stuck with in denial lesbian christian girls to attempt child rearing. That or gay love and no progeny. Shitty huh? When I had a lot of money hot straight women would want a relationship anyway, which proves that ultimately women want financial security to rear kids. Anyway this is it for now, feel free to comment.
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On May 19 2011 08:41 Bortlett wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 07:58 krbz wrote:On May 19 2011 07:51 Bortlett wrote:On May 19 2011 07:37 krbz wrote:On May 19 2011 07:06 R1CH wrote:On May 19 2011 06:56 krbz wrote:
I would argue that there is obviously something wrong with being homosexual (aka not natural), in terms of how species survive. How do feel about this situation? What if homosexuality is nature's way of dealing with overpopulation? I'd argue that disease and famine are natures methods for controlling population, because if homosexuality ever "got out of hand", it could force the human race into extinction. You realize that if this ever happened (which is kind of funny to think about), a gay man could still have sex with a lesbian, right? so are you gay or are you bi? if you are gay then you are going against what you like, and if you are willing to do that then why do you consider yourself gay and not bi? I was only speaking in terms of a purely homosexual society. One were they refuse to have sex with their opposite. If everyone thought of the opposite sex with the same disgust as Mora does. "You understand that disgust because you’ve experienced it in the other direction – that the thought of sticking my tongue inside a dank vagina made me want to puke. That when i would watch straight porn, and see the tits bouncing around, i would lose my erection." If everyone thought like him we would not see a next generation. I am gay, and I can't speak for Mora (or anybody else), but if it came down to the extinction of the human race, I would have sex with women to procreate. I probably wouldn't enjoy it all that much, but I could put up with it. I am not disgusted by women at all, I'm just not sexually attracted to them in any way, that's why I consider myself gay rather than bi. Assuming that there is a genetic component to homosexuality, just because it's a negative mutation doesn't make it "wrong". It happens in nature all the time. We don't consider bad eyesight unnatural or wrong. I don't think homosexuality has anything to do with curbing overpopulation, if it is, it doesn't fit that purpose all that well. There just aren't enough gay people to do that.
I agree that it does not solve overpopulation very well.
If it is a mutation that cant be helped then you are not "wrong" for liking the same sex. I would be absurd to assert that. I could state, however, that it is a none useful mutation that serves no purpose other than lessening the population because those with the gene will likely choose not to procreate.
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On May 19 2011 09:01 krbz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 08:41 Bortlett wrote:On May 19 2011 07:58 krbz wrote:On May 19 2011 07:51 Bortlett wrote:On May 19 2011 07:37 krbz wrote:On May 19 2011 07:06 R1CH wrote:On May 19 2011 06:56 krbz wrote:
I would argue that there is obviously something wrong with being homosexual (aka not natural), in terms of how species survive. How do feel about this situation? What if homosexuality is nature's way of dealing with overpopulation? I'd argue that disease and famine are natures methods for controlling population, because if homosexuality ever "got out of hand", it could force the human race into extinction. You realize that if this ever happened (which is kind of funny to think about), a gay man could still have sex with a lesbian, right? so are you gay or are you bi? if you are gay then you are going against what you like, and if you are willing to do that then why do you consider yourself gay and not bi? I was only speaking in terms of a purely homosexual society. One were they refuse to have sex with their opposite. If everyone thought of the opposite sex with the same disgust as Mora does. "You understand that disgust because you’ve experienced it in the other direction – that the thought of sticking my tongue inside a dank vagina made me want to puke. That when i would watch straight porn, and see the tits bouncing around, i would lose my erection." If everyone thought like him we would not see a next generation. I am gay, and I can't speak for Mora (or anybody else), but if it came down to the extinction of the human race, I would have sex with women to procreate. I probably wouldn't enjoy it all that much, but I could put up with it. I am not disgusted by women at all, I'm just not sexually attracted to them in any way, that's why I consider myself gay rather than bi. Assuming that there is a genetic component to homosexuality, just because it's a negative mutation doesn't make it "wrong". It happens in nature all the time. We don't consider bad eyesight unnatural or wrong. I don't think homosexuality has anything to do with curbing overpopulation, if it is, it doesn't fit that purpose all that well. There just aren't enough gay people to do that. I agree that it does not solve overpopulation very well. If it is a mutation that cant be helped then you are not "wrong" for liking the same sex. I would be absurd to assert that. I could state, however, that it is a none useful mutation that serves no purpose other than lessening the population because those with the gene cannot procreate.
I think some experts have proposed that since gay couples are not focused on raising children of their own, they can focus on helping take care of other children in a tribe or other grouping of several families. I don't have any sources since I'm far from knowledgeable about this subject and going purely off of memory, but that could be a potential benefit.
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On May 19 2011 07:51 Bortlett wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 07:37 krbz wrote:On May 19 2011 07:06 R1CH wrote:On May 19 2011 06:56 krbz wrote:
I would argue that there is obviously something wrong with being homosexual (aka not natural), in terms of how species survive. How do feel about this situation? What if homosexuality is nature's way of dealing with overpopulation? I'd argue that disease and famine are natures methods for controlling population, because if homosexuality ever "got out of hand", it could force the human race into extinction. You realize that if this ever happened (which is kind of funny to think about), a gay man could still have sex with a lesbian, right?
Exactly. We have sex for many reason, and pleasure is only one of it. I had sex with my female boss before to gain a promotion, or had sex with a girl before I dumped her as kind of a "revenge fuck." You figure. A lot of full blown gay men wish to have their own children, including me. It is social taboo on homosexual behavior that makes conversations about child rearing and lifestyle choices so difficult. Currently children between lesbians and homosexuals involve the notion of the extended family instead of the traditional mom and dad atomic core. This is troublesome for a lot of people and many gay people dont have the option, so they remain childless or adopt, in fact, these options are highly encouraged by authority figures on the subject, which may just be a cultural trend. Remember that Aristotle and his ilk believed that the highest form of friendship is only possible between two men (yeah pretty gay idea), and his famous pupil, Alexander had male lovers, and yet settled for a wild blooded barbarian wife in the end. I felt pure lust for a woman beforeso I can sypmathize, it is as if the mating urge is hardwired more fundamentally than sexual orientation in the brain, alowing for bisexual and even heterosexual behavior.
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On May 19 2011 07:37 krbz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 07:06 R1CH wrote:On May 19 2011 06:56 krbz wrote:
I would argue that there is obviously something wrong with being homosexual (aka not natural), in terms of how species survive. How do feel about this situation? What if homosexuality is nature's way of dealing with overpopulation? I'd argue that disease and famine are natures methods for controlling population, because if homosexuality ever "got out of hand", it could force the human race into extinction. If it was a method of controlling population that still makes it something that should only happen in an unhealthy population. For, as your argument states, if we weren't overpopulated we wouldn't need or have gay people. They are not normal for a healthy population. Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 07:00 dunc wrote:On May 19 2011 06:56 krbz wrote:
If the whole human race was to turn gay and not have sexual intercourse with someone of the opposite sex, we would effectively kill the entire human population. Having straight intercourse is centrally important to any species that is not a-sexual. Its one of our main roles while being a human (as with any animal), to have children. I would argue that there is obviously something wrong with being homosexual (aka not natural), in terms of how species survive. How do feel about this situation?
In terms of you being born gay, it is almost as if natural selection tries to weed homosexuality out of the gene pool, because gay couples cant have children, and therefore cant pass down their genes, that is "if" you are born gay.
Something to think about... and I'd love to know peoples opinions on this topic, not just the typical "omg how could you think that way".
Just to note, I do not hate homosexual people, I am merely stating things I see in nature.
Also I'd appreciate not having this post immediately removed, as i feel i should be allowed to speak my mind.. just as much as the people comparing homosexuality to races. Can you speak your mind on a forum devoted to retarded discussions about shit like that. Honestly it's a thread for gay people, not people "speaking their mind" about how homosexuality is bad because if everyone was gay it would wipe out the human population. There are literally millions of posts that describe exactly the same thing you are. In terms of you being born gay, it is almost as if natural selection tries to weed homosexuality out of the gene pool, because gay couples cant have children, and therefore cant pass down their genes, that is "if" you are born gay. I'm sure everyone here decided one day to suddenly be attracted to the same sex because the opposite sex was getting boring . I'd appreciate it if you didn't post ill formed responses, bashing what i think. My discussion is in no way "retarded", as i gave valid examples of what i thought, and then asked the people of this thread for their opinions on the matter. "I'm sure everyone here decided one day to suddenly be attracted to the same sex because the opposite sex was getting boring" This has nothing to do with natural selection and i would appreciate it if you shut your mouth, and did not respond with useless nonsense. You should take a lesson from R1CH. He posed a question and did not bash or flame a single thing. You are very unproductive.
It's hard when every forum that has these kind of threads has people like you saying stuff like that. I'm not sure what you expect. You are bashing gays, though in a subtle way and you expect people to respond nicely?
Honestly if you're so interested in what others feel about homosexuality you can google "Is being gay not natural" and get at least a thousand results where you could spend a lot of time reading.
It's logical the human race would go extinct if it ever came to that scenario, that doesn't mean being gay isn't natural. If anything it's one of the most natural things there is considering homosexuality is very common among animals as well.
edit: Also please stop calling it a mutation, holy shit.
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On May 19 2011 05:59 xarthaz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 05:52 Velocirapture wrote:
There is something gay people are asking you to believe that maybe you don't. But a large number of the people making that argument want you to know that while the activity (gay sex) can be done by anybody, homosexuality is is a separate quality that is a part of the individual. If you believe that orientation is a myth (sexuality is fluid and only a categorization of certain behaviors) then I ask you to look inwardly and see if you can reconcile with that view because I most certainly do not.
And btw, try not to get caught up in labels. This is a fairly abstract and difficult to grasp concept but I think its worth the time thinking about it. If you dont lable then its difficult to come to interpersonal conclusion, due to asymmetries of thought patterns.
I just said don't get caught up. Its those very assymetries that make this all so complicated but I believe there is enough evidence in each of our own minds to point us in the right direction.
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On May 19 2011 09:05 Bortlett wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 09:01 krbz wrote:On May 19 2011 08:41 Bortlett wrote:On May 19 2011 07:58 krbz wrote:On May 19 2011 07:51 Bortlett wrote:On May 19 2011 07:37 krbz wrote:On May 19 2011 07:06 R1CH wrote:On May 19 2011 06:56 krbz wrote:
I would argue that there is obviously something wrong with being homosexual (aka not natural), in terms of how species survive. How do feel about this situation? What if homosexuality is nature's way of dealing with overpopulation? I'd argue that disease and famine are natures methods for controlling population, because if homosexuality ever "got out of hand", it could force the human race into extinction. You realize that if this ever happened (which is kind of funny to think about), a gay man could still have sex with a lesbian, right? so are you gay or are you bi? if you are gay then you are going against what you like, and if you are willing to do that then why do you consider yourself gay and not bi? I was only speaking in terms of a purely homosexual society. One were they refuse to have sex with their opposite. If everyone thought of the opposite sex with the same disgust as Mora does. "You understand that disgust because you’ve experienced it in the other direction – that the thought of sticking my tongue inside a dank vagina made me want to puke. That when i would watch straight porn, and see the tits bouncing around, i would lose my erection." If everyone thought like him we would not see a next generation. I am gay, and I can't speak for Mora (or anybody else), but if it came down to the extinction of the human race, I would have sex with women to procreate. I probably wouldn't enjoy it all that much, but I could put up with it. I am not disgusted by women at all, I'm just not sexually attracted to them in any way, that's why I consider myself gay rather than bi. Assuming that there is a genetic component to homosexuality, just because it's a negative mutation doesn't make it "wrong". It happens in nature all the time. We don't consider bad eyesight unnatural or wrong. I don't think homosexuality has anything to do with curbing overpopulation, if it is, it doesn't fit that purpose all that well. There just aren't enough gay people to do that. I agree that it does not solve overpopulation very well. If it is a mutation that cant be helped then you are not "wrong" for liking the same sex. I would be absurd to assert that. I could state, however, that it is a none useful mutation that serves no purpose other than lessening the population because those with the gene cannot procreate. If you read the Brothers Kharamazov with a keen peception, you notice the hero youngest brother is in fact a homosexual monk, who courts a younger woman I think some experts have proposed that since gay couples are not focused on raising children of their own, they can focus on helping take care of other children in a tribe or other grouping of several families. I don't have any sources since I'm far from knowledgeable about this subject and going purely off of memory, but that could be a potential benefit.
If you read the timeless classis brothers Karamazov with a keen perception, you notice that the hero, the youngest brother is a homosexual monk. He courts a much younger woman unsucessfully, and finally becomes a sort of guardian and role model for others children in the end of the book. So yeah that is definetly a common solution to homosexuals fitting into the social fabric, it is well known that gays make great grade school and kindergarden teachers. (that is if they are not abused for who they are at a young age and pass down the abuse to children, catholic priests cough cough).
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On May 19 2011 09:07 dunc wrote:
edit: Also please stop calling it a mutation, holy shit.
Just a quick note about this, a mutation in a genetic sense is neither a positive nor negative term - it just means a change in genomic sequence. If there is a genetic component to homosexuality, it would indeed be a mutation. I'm not a geneticist though, so the term could still be being used incorrectly though lol.
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On May 19 2011 09:13 Bortlett wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 09:07 dunc wrote:
edit: Also please stop calling it a mutation, holy shit.
Just a quick note about this, a mutation in a genetic sense is neither a positive nor negative term - it just means a change in genomic sequence. If there is a genetic component to homosexuality, it would indeed be a mutation. I'm not a geneticist though, so the term could still be being used incorrectly though lol.
You're completely right, people often use it as a negative term though. If he didn't mean it like that he can just ignore that :o
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