Gay StarCraft Players - Page 74

On May 18 2011 08:28 jarrydesque wrote:
Gay thread is a bit quiet.

The best thing that came from reading 60 pages of the KellyMilkies thread.



Discuss.

On May 11 2011 01:37 Odal wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221393&currentpage=3#60

Apparently being blatantly anti the "act" of being gay is okay on these forums. Could you imagine if the same guy posted about how he hates the idea of being black?

On May 19 2011 04:55 rycho wrote:


i feel like i have to preface this with a disclaimer before anyone calls me a bigot: i have absolutely zero problem whatsoever with anyone's sexual preference, i really couldn't possibly care less at all about it. i'm certainly not advocating hate or any sort of anti-gay agenda. i do find this topic somewhat interesting though and i'm interested to read other points of view.

with that said, i think there is a problem with you comparing homosexuality with race. i realize that for most, being gay is not a conscious decision. however, there is no arguing with the countless studies that have been done that prove that while there is a biological component to homosexuality, a large part of what determines one's sexual orientation is in fact not biological. some aren't "born with it".

now i realize that there is an argument to be made that it is irrelevant whether a specific individual is gay because of biological or environmental causes, because regardless they didn't make any sort of conscious choice themselves. this may be true and i'm certainly not trying to place responsibility on anyone for their sexual attractions. the fact remains, however, that it isn't the same as being black.

one is unequivocally born into a certain race. this is absolutely not up to any sort of environmental cause, and past that, it is on display for everyone. there have never been work camps or separate water fountains for homosexuals, and there probably never will be because sexuality is something in your brain, it isn't the color of your skin, and its causes are much more tenebrous. i understand the point you were trying to make, but i disagree with the comparison to race - i find the two to be strictly different.

On May 19 2011 05:06 Shai wrote:


You just spent 750 words comparing them; obviously they're comparible. They may not be strictly speaking the same issue, but both racism and sexism/homophobia are fighting, on many levels, the same fight. Also, your argument was just nitpicking a statement that otherwise made sense. On a human rights level, they are the same issue.

You could say that anti-semitism and anti-black mentalities are strictly different on many levels, but they're both racism. Likewise, racism and homophobia are both forms of descrimination. There is an obvious level of comparison.

On May 18 2011 08:28 jarrydesque wrote:
Gay thread is a bit quiet.

The best thing that came from reading 60 pages of the KellyMilkies thread.



Discuss.

On May 19 2011 05:19 rycho wrote:


this is just semantics, any two things can be compared. i could compare homosexuality to my computer keyboard if i really wanted to.

of course its discrimination and i never said otherwise. the guy essentially posted someone saying "i'm anti-gay" and asked rhetorically what it would be like if someone posted that they were anti-black and my point was that this is a faulty comparison in the sense that of course no one would ever post that, it would be completely ridiculous. is it just as ridiculous to be anti-gay? possibly, but not for the same reasons. race and sexuality are just not equivalent.

either way, what is his point exactly? that there would be some sort of outrage if someone posted "i'm anti-black" but that nothing happened when someone said they they don't like homosexuality? its naive to equate the two.

On May 19 2011 04:29 Wtfux wrote:


I secretly think Jensen Ackles is very good looking and wish I looked as good as he does.

On May 19 2011 05:52 Velocirapture wrote:
There is something gay people are asking you to believe that maybe you don't. But a large number of the people making that argument want you to know that while the activity (gay sex) can be done by anybody, homosexuality is is a separate quality that is a part of the individual. If you believe that orientation is a myth (sexuality is fluid and only a categorization of certain behaviors) then I ask you to look inwardly and see if you can reconcile with that view because I most certainly do not.

And btw, try not to get caught up in labels. This is a fairly abstract and difficult to grasp concept but I think its worth the time thinking about it.

On May 19 2011 05:51 FearTheReaperMan wrote:
What I dont understand about be a gay man, what is appealing about it ? And plus an alot more but.. How do u have fun sucking @$@# and getting your #$#@ pushed? That just sounds like a terrible time...