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Don't post in this thread to say "gay gamers are like everyone else, why do they have a special thread?" It is something that has been posted numerous times, and this isn't the place for that discussion.

For regular posters, don't quote the trolls.
Tipsyer
Profile Joined March 2011
United States43 Posts
May 13 2011 13:48 GMT
#1461
Haha, Marvel.
Tipsyer
Profile Joined March 2011
United States43 Posts
May 14 2011 15:28 GMT
#1462
Global Post - Uganda Anti-Gay Bill shelved.

A huge step in the right direction. I don't know how effective the online petition that was going on happened to be, but it seems like something helped. Hopefully it stays this way.
Tipsyer
Profile Joined March 2011
United States43 Posts
May 14 2011 15:31 GMT
#1463
Might help if I read the entire thing...

tl;dr
Poppa Leader man dude said the issue will be brought up in the next parliament, albeit with the death-penalty clause taken out. Atleast they can breathe a little easier for a bit.
SilverWolfe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada173 Posts
May 14 2011 22:14 GMT
#1464
Does anyone else think Nestea looks like a big teddy bear? my roomate (a girl) and I were watching gsl and we both agreed he looks like a teddy bear, he's super tall!

[image loading]

also I think considering that he's 30 years old he's still a kinda cute looking guy, he looks cuddly

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Nestea is too much of a man for hoverhands LOL
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jarrydesque
Profile Joined November 2010
584 Posts
May 17 2011 23:28 GMT
#1465
Gay thread is a bit quiet.

The best thing that came from reading 60 pages of the KellyMilkies thread.

[image loading]

Discuss.

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platorepublic
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom344 Posts
May 18 2011 16:16 GMT
#1466
On May 18 2011 08:28 jarrydesque wrote:
Gay thread is a bit quiet.

The best thing that came from reading 60 pages of the KellyMilkies thread.

[image loading]

Discuss.


Nah. Is that Dimaga? Bad picture, and don't like him anymore now.
Even though I've never met you, I still miss you.
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
May 18 2011 19:24 GMT
#1467
I don't find Dimaga attractive at all but yeah, don't like Nada either so different tastes :o!
Wtfux
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Northern Ireland163 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 19:29:27
May 18 2011 19:29 GMT
#1468
[image loading]

I secretly think Jensen Ackles is very good looking and wish I looked as good as he does.
rycho
Profile Joined July 2010
United States360 Posts
May 18 2011 19:55 GMT
#1469
On May 11 2011 01:37 Odal wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221393&currentpage=3#60

Apparently being blatantly anti the "act" of being gay is okay on these forums. Could you imagine if the same guy posted about how he hates the idea of being black?


i feel like i have to preface this with a disclaimer before anyone calls me a bigot: i have absolutely zero problem whatsoever with anyone's sexual preference, i really couldn't possibly care less at all about it. i'm certainly not advocating hate or any sort of anti-gay agenda. i do find this topic somewhat interesting though and i'm interested to read other points of view.

with that said, i think there is a problem with you comparing homosexuality with race. i realize that for most, being gay is not a conscious decision. however, there is no arguing with the countless studies that have been done that prove that while there is a biological component to homosexuality, a large part of what determines one's sexual orientation is in fact not biological. some aren't "born with it".

now i realize that there is an argument to be made that it is irrelevant whether a specific individual is gay because of biological or environmental causes, because regardless they didn't make any sort of conscious choice themselves. this may be true and i'm certainly not trying to place responsibility on anyone for their sexual attractions. the fact remains, however, that it isn't the same as being black.

one is unequivocally born into a certain race. this is absolutely not up to any sort of environmental cause, and past that, it is on display for everyone. there have never been work camps or separate water fountains for homosexuals, and there probably never will be because sexuality is something in your brain, it isn't the color of your skin, and its causes are much more tenebrous. i understand the point you were trying to make, but i disagree with the comparison to race - i find the two to be strictly different.
Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
May 18 2011 20:06 GMT
#1470
On May 19 2011 04:55 rycho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 01:37 Odal wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221393&currentpage=3#60

Apparently being blatantly anti the "act" of being gay is okay on these forums. Could you imagine if the same guy posted about how he hates the idea of being black?


i feel like i have to preface this with a disclaimer before anyone calls me a bigot: i have absolutely zero problem whatsoever with anyone's sexual preference, i really couldn't possibly care less at all about it. i'm certainly not advocating hate or any sort of anti-gay agenda. i do find this topic somewhat interesting though and i'm interested to read other points of view.

with that said, i think there is a problem with you comparing homosexuality with race. i realize that for most, being gay is not a conscious decision. however, there is no arguing with the countless studies that have been done that prove that while there is a biological component to homosexuality, a large part of what determines one's sexual orientation is in fact not biological. some aren't "born with it".

now i realize that there is an argument to be made that it is irrelevant whether a specific individual is gay because of biological or environmental causes, because regardless they didn't make any sort of conscious choice themselves. this may be true and i'm certainly not trying to place responsibility on anyone for their sexual attractions. the fact remains, however, that it isn't the same as being black.

one is unequivocally born into a certain race. this is absolutely not up to any sort of environmental cause, and past that, it is on display for everyone. there have never been work camps or separate water fountains for homosexuals, and there probably never will be because sexuality is something in your brain, it isn't the color of your skin, and its causes are much more tenebrous. i understand the point you were trying to make, but i disagree with the comparison to race - i find the two to be strictly different.


You just spent 750 words comparing them; obviously they're comparible. They may not be strictly speaking the same issue, but both racism and sexism/homophobia are fighting, on many levels, the same fight. Also, your argument was just nitpicking a statement that otherwise made sense. On a human rights level, they are the same issue.

You could say that anti-semitism and anti-black mentalities are strictly different on many levels, but they're both racism. Likewise, racism and homophobia are both forms of descrimination. There is an obvious level of comparison.
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
rycho
Profile Joined July 2010
United States360 Posts
May 18 2011 20:19 GMT
#1471
On May 19 2011 05:06 Shai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 04:55 rycho wrote:
On May 11 2011 01:37 Odal wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221393&currentpage=3#60

Apparently being blatantly anti the "act" of being gay is okay on these forums. Could you imagine if the same guy posted about how he hates the idea of being black?


i feel like i have to preface this with a disclaimer before anyone calls me a bigot: i have absolutely zero problem whatsoever with anyone's sexual preference, i really couldn't possibly care less at all about it. i'm certainly not advocating hate or any sort of anti-gay agenda. i do find this topic somewhat interesting though and i'm interested to read other points of view.

with that said, i think there is a problem with you comparing homosexuality with race. i realize that for most, being gay is not a conscious decision. however, there is no arguing with the countless studies that have been done that prove that while there is a biological component to homosexuality, a large part of what determines one's sexual orientation is in fact not biological. some aren't "born with it".

now i realize that there is an argument to be made that it is irrelevant whether a specific individual is gay because of biological or environmental causes, because regardless they didn't make any sort of conscious choice themselves. this may be true and i'm certainly not trying to place responsibility on anyone for their sexual attractions. the fact remains, however, that it isn't the same as being black.

one is unequivocally born into a certain race. this is absolutely not up to any sort of environmental cause, and past that, it is on display for everyone. there have never been work camps or separate water fountains for homosexuals, and there probably never will be because sexuality is something in your brain, it isn't the color of your skin, and its causes are much more tenebrous. i understand the point you were trying to make, but i disagree with the comparison to race - i find the two to be strictly different.


You just spent 750 words comparing them; obviously they're comparible. They may not be strictly speaking the same issue, but both racism and sexism/homophobia are fighting, on many levels, the same fight. Also, your argument was just nitpicking a statement that otherwise made sense. On a human rights level, they are the same issue.

You could say that anti-semitism and anti-black mentalities are strictly different on many levels, but they're both racism. Likewise, racism and homophobia are both forms of descrimination. There is an obvious level of comparison.


this is just semantics, any two things can be compared. i could compare homosexuality to my computer keyboard if i really wanted to.

of course its discrimination and i never said otherwise. the guy essentially posted someone saying "i'm anti-gay" and asked rhetorically what it would be like if someone posted that they were anti-black and my point was that this is a faulty comparison in the sense that of course no one would ever post that, it would be completely ridiculous. is it just as ridiculous to be anti-gay? possibly, but not for the same reasons. race and sexuality are just not equivalent.

either way, what is his point exactly? that there would be some sort of outrage if someone posted "i'm anti-black" but that nothing happened when someone said they they don't like homosexuality? its naive to equate the two.
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 20:27:19
May 18 2011 20:23 GMT
#1472
On May 18 2011 08:28 jarrydesque wrote:
Gay thread is a bit quiet.

The best thing that came from reading 60 pages of the KellyMilkies thread.

[image loading]

Discuss.

Wow he is packing some meat. Could be a good One-on-One partner.

On May 19 2011 05:19 rycho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 05:06 Shai wrote:
On May 19 2011 04:55 rycho wrote:
On May 11 2011 01:37 Odal wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221393&currentpage=3#60

Apparently being blatantly anti the "act" of being gay is okay on these forums. Could you imagine if the same guy posted about how he hates the idea of being black?


i feel like i have to preface this with a disclaimer before anyone calls me a bigot: i have absolutely zero problem whatsoever with anyone's sexual preference, i really couldn't possibly care less at all about it. i'm certainly not advocating hate or any sort of anti-gay agenda. i do find this topic somewhat interesting though and i'm interested to read other points of view.

with that said, i think there is a problem with you comparing homosexuality with race. i realize that for most, being gay is not a conscious decision. however, there is no arguing with the countless studies that have been done that prove that while there is a biological component to homosexuality, a large part of what determines one's sexual orientation is in fact not biological. some aren't "born with it".

now i realize that there is an argument to be made that it is irrelevant whether a specific individual is gay because of biological or environmental causes, because regardless they didn't make any sort of conscious choice themselves. this may be true and i'm certainly not trying to place responsibility on anyone for their sexual attractions. the fact remains, however, that it isn't the same as being black.

one is unequivocally born into a certain race. this is absolutely not up to any sort of environmental cause, and past that, it is on display for everyone. there have never been work camps or separate water fountains for homosexuals, and there probably never will be because sexuality is something in your brain, it isn't the color of your skin, and its causes are much more tenebrous. i understand the point you were trying to make, but i disagree with the comparison to race - i find the two to be strictly different.


You just spent 750 words comparing them; obviously they're comparible. They may not be strictly speaking the same issue, but both racism and sexism/homophobia are fighting, on many levels, the same fight. Also, your argument was just nitpicking a statement that otherwise made sense. On a human rights level, they are the same issue.

You could say that anti-semitism and anti-black mentalities are strictly different on many levels, but they're both racism. Likewise, racism and homophobia are both forms of descrimination. There is an obvious level of comparison.


this is just semantics, any two things can be compared. i could compare homosexuality to my computer keyboard if i really wanted to.

of course its discrimination and i never said otherwise. the guy essentially posted someone saying "i'm anti-gay" and asked rhetorically what it would be like if someone posted that they were anti-black and my point was that this is a faulty comparison in the sense that of course no one would ever post that, it would be completely ridiculous. is it just as ridiculous to be anti-gay? possibly, but not for the same reasons. race and sexuality are just not equivalent.

either way, what is his point exactly? that there would be some sort of outrage if someone posted "i'm anti-black" but that nothing happened when someone said they they don't like homosexuality? its naive to equate the two.
Given determinist premises of sociology, hate for any feature of persona can be equated in such manner. Though such a distance is usually not taken, it seems to be the logical course given the determinist nature of chemical processes, the implication of which we are.
Aah thats the stuff..
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
May 18 2011 20:26 GMT
#1473
The comparison between sexual orientation and race is founded on one simple principle, people being judged/discriminated against based on something they can't control. The details are of course different, and so have been the atrocities, but the comparison is valid.
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
May 18 2011 20:39 GMT
#1474
On May 19 2011 04:29 Wtfux wrote:
[image loading]

I secretly think Jensen Ackles is very good looking and wish I looked as good as he does.


Yeah Jensen is hot, him and the guy who plays Castiel make Supernatural amazing
rycho
Profile Joined July 2010
United States360 Posts
May 18 2011 20:40 GMT
#1475
i guess maybe i misrepresented what i was saying, i think that his comparison between someone posting "i'm anti-gay" and "i'm anti-black" didn't make any sense, not that discrimination against homosexuals and racial minorities were completely different.

to me, posting something like "i'm against being black" is so utterly ridiculous that it doesn't belong on any forum and would probably be deleted; its childish nonsense. i don't think this can be equated to posting "i'm against being gay" for a few reasons (not that it isn't a really inane point of view):

- homosexuality was classified as a disorder for a really long time and is clearly phrenic, whereas race isn't
- sexuality is often fluid, which could give the impression that it is a choice
- for some, it probably is a choice

personally it boggles my mind that anyone gives a fuck enough to post something like "i'm against being gay" but i find that comment merely stupid, not completely absurd like "i'm against being black" would be.
startover
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States35 Posts
May 18 2011 20:45 GMT
#1476
If homosexuality is clearly phrenic would heterosexuality also have to be phrenic?

I disagree with you there but agree sexual orientation isn't completely analogous to ethnicity.
FearTheReaperMan
Profile Joined May 2011
154 Posts
May 18 2011 20:51 GMT
#1477
What I dont understand about be a gay man, what is appealing about it ? And plus an alot more but.. How do u have fun sucking @$@# and getting your #$#@ pushed? That just sounds like a terrible time...
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
May 18 2011 20:52 GMT
#1478
There is something gay people are asking you to believe that maybe you don't. But a large number of the people making that argument want you to know that while the activity (gay sex) can be done by anybody, homosexuality is is a separate quality that is a part of the individual. If you believe that orientation is a myth (sexuality is fluid and only a categorization of certain behaviors) then I ask you to look inwardly and see if you can reconcile with that view because I most certainly do not.

And btw, try not to get caught up in labels. This is a fairly abstract and difficult to grasp concept but I think its worth the time thinking about it.
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
May 18 2011 20:59 GMT
#1479
On May 19 2011 05:52 Velocirapture wrote:
There is something gay people are asking you to believe that maybe you don't. But a large number of the people making that argument want you to know that while the activity (gay sex) can be done by anybody, homosexuality is is a separate quality that is a part of the individual. If you believe that orientation is a myth (sexuality is fluid and only a categorization of certain behaviors) then I ask you to look inwardly and see if you can reconcile with that view because I most certainly do not.

And btw, try not to get caught up in labels. This is a fairly abstract and difficult to grasp concept but I think its worth the time thinking about it.

If you dont lable then its difficult to come to interpersonal conclusion, due to asymmetries of thought patterns.
Aah thats the stuff..
jarrydesque
Profile Joined November 2010
584 Posts
May 18 2011 21:47 GMT
#1480
On May 19 2011 05:51 FearTheReaperMan wrote:
What I dont understand about be a gay man, what is appealing about it ? And plus an alot more but.. How do u have fun sucking @$@# and getting your #$#@ pushed? That just sounds like a terrible time...


Cute.

Straight people do it too you know. Don't pretend you've never watched a porno with a pretty blonde taking it from all ends. And then don't pretend that you didn't enjoy it.

It's quite nice - you should try it some time. You might find that you like it. And you know what? It does not even make you gay! Neat, hey?
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