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Don't post in this thread to say "gay gamers are like everyone else, why do they have a special thread?" It is something that has been posted numerous times, and this isn't the place for that discussion.

For regular posters, don't quote the trolls.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 31 2012 13:23 GMT
#4601
On January 31 2012 22:18 jarrydesque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 22:10 Klondikebar wrote:
On January 31 2012 22:05 Match wrote:
On January 31 2012 21:49 marvellosity wrote:
On January 31 2012 20:49 TWThoth wrote:
On January 31 2012 11:21 Nibbler89 wrote:
On January 31 2012 01:08 Roe wrote:
On January 31 2012 01:03 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On January 31 2012 00:55 Klondikebar wrote:
On January 31 2012 00:48 neoghaleon55 wrote:
[quote]

He said that upon request, his friend would just undress and let him get off on it.
I even asked if he had to pay the straight guy anything, and he said "no, he just likes the attention"
lol


I can't help but think that's an unhealthy relationship. Although part of me wonders if the "straight" guy likes watching another guy masturbate. In which case they probably just need to abandon the look don't touch policy. Oh well, if they're both happy with it I'll just cringe from afar and leave them be.

Does anyone have any experience with the Anno series? When Ubisoft changed their DRM I went ahead and picked it up on Steam. I like the game I'm just not sure what they're trying to do with careers and the multiplayer stuff.


Haha. Yea, I could never do that. The look but don't touch policy would drive me nuts...which is why I never go to strip clubs. I hate teases!

And about Anno...
You mean...there are other RTS's that aren't made by Blizzard??
no, surely you must be jesting.



age of empires>blizzard

Ever play rise of nations? Loved that game.


I have, it was an awesome game, although, when it progressed to the the final ages/eras, all those super abilities like the AI one (produce units instantly) made the game a little... unstable.

And on that lovely note, I have come seeking advice, and to stop lurking so much (I read this thread but I never post ; _ ; ). How do the rest of you find boyfriends/partners etc, I am kind of against using the internet for dating. This means I have to find a Boyfriend by other means, but then, what other means are there besides clubs? :S (which I am also not a big fan of)

Anyone willing to give their view-point on this?, if I really have to use one of the above methods I will, but are there other ways besides these?


So you don't want to use the interwebz to find a bf, nor do you want to go out to find one. Could be tricky.

There's ways to go out and find one that don't involve clubs, I'm sure.


All of it's going to be very similar though. There are tons of gay activity clubs and stuff but it's all ultimately going to involve going out on a limb and being the new, awkward guy in the group for a while. It's something I have yet to muster the courage to do.


Try and get yourself involved with groups of friends that you don't normally hang out with.


Yeah, I think this is the only other potentially good way.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
TWThoth
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand48 Posts
January 31 2012 14:08 GMT
#4602
And so it is true, I have to shed my damn insecurities and my dislike of internet dating/clubs to actually get anywhere... what a lovely journey that will be >.<
"By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest." - Confucius
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 31 2012 14:11 GMT
#4603
The dating game isn't an easy one I'm afraid ^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 14:47:58
January 31 2012 14:46 GMT
#4604
On January 31 2012 20:34 Zyl wrote:

But I have another à propos about phases and dating policies: Do you guys have a fix role regarding top/bottom, aktive/passive, giving/receiving and expect your partner to have the complemantary one? Is it among the firsts things you clarify when you're dating someone? More important, do you expect them to be stable in this regard?



It's funny how we just fall into roles without even realizing it. I've always been more of a top. In my current relationship, I'm strictly top and we don't change positions...might try someday but iono...just more comfortable doing what we do best. This is something you should clarify if you're dating someone new. If you're not used to receiving, you want to make sure your partner takes it as slowly as possible. Shouldn't expect anything from people in this regards. Some are more adventurous...although I can say, the majority of those I've dated prefer one role or another more...

On January 31 2012 20:49 TWThoth wrote:
[
Anyone willing to give their view-point on this?, if I really have to use one of the above methods I will, but are there other ways besides these?



Go volunteer! I got a shit ton of dates while volunteering for AIDS walk, HIV/STD Intervention groups, and gay youth groups, college gay clubs/events. People you find while volunteering are MILES better than those you find most anywhere else, not to mention you get a lot of connections.

And don't shy away from online dating.
Admittedly most sites are terrible...but...some are decent.

I recommend OKcupid.com, which is run by people from BarnesandNoble.
This site measures an INSANE amount of statistics between people and there are a lot of things to do there! Oh and it's free.
I found my current bf there...we've been together for almost 5 years...that's considered a success story, right?

moo...for DRG
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 31 2012 14:54 GMT
#4605
On January 31 2012 23:46 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 20:34 Zyl wrote:

But I have another à propos about phases and dating policies: Do you guys have a fix role regarding top/bottom, aktive/passive, giving/receiving and expect your partner to have the complemantary one? Is it among the firsts things you clarify when you're dating someone? More important, do you expect them to be stable in this regard?



It's funny how we just fall into roles without even realizing it. I've always been more of a top. In my current relationship, I'm strictly top and we don't change positions...might try someday but iono...just more comfortable doing what we do best. This is something you should clarify if you're dating someone new. If you're not used to receiving, you want to make sure your partner takes it as slowly as possible. Shouldn't expect anything from people in this regards. Some are more adventurous...although I can say, the majority of those I've dated prefer one role or another more...



My other half is strictly top.

Alcohol is a fun one for me on this. I can be super dominant or super submissive when I'm wasted, depending on my mood.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
krisss
Profile Joined November 2010
Luxembourg305 Posts
January 31 2012 16:28 GMT
#4606
On January 31 2012 21:45 Klondikebar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 14:19 krisss wrote:
On January 31 2012 00:55 Klondikebar wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with the Anno series? When Ubisoft changed their DRM I went ahead and picked it up on Steam. I like the game I'm just not sure what they're trying to do with careers and the multiplayer stuff.


I played every campaign and every mission available (includion this first "world event")
IMHO they tried to give incentives to the players with the careers. Everytime you succesfully acomplish a mission u get a certain amount of career points that you can spend on any of the 3 fractions. The more points you have, the more "gifts" will be available. But those gifts a pretty useless, so the whole career thing makes no sense imho.

And the improved multiplayer mode is actually pretty fun. You can play COOP or VS mode with friends and random people, either do endless missions, or special multiplayer missions. I spent like 24 hours with a friend playing the most difficult mission in COOP-mode, which actually was very exciting and funny. But after beating it, there was no more challenge for me and my friend. And this first "world event" was also done in a very short time. So basically the game is now over for me. I hope they include MUCH more difficult missions, where you actually have trouble in succeeding.



Ah. I beat a mission in the campaign and it didn't unlock the next one so I'm stuck. I've started doing the world event and the single missions. I'm still pretty new to this thing and I SUCK at layouts right now but it does seem like the vast majority of things can be accomplished with enough time.


Yes, just bring enough time, and you beat every mission. Contrary to SC2 speed, and APM are not really important, which is pretty relaxing. My COOP-partner doesnt even play PC-games regulary. It was a nice change compared to sc2, where even the worst players know and execute the common strategies.
life is like fighting a dinosaur.. it's pretty hard.
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
January 31 2012 16:57 GMT
#4607
On February 01 2012 01:28 krisss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 21:45 Klondikebar wrote:
On January 31 2012 14:19 krisss wrote:
On January 31 2012 00:55 Klondikebar wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with the Anno series? When Ubisoft changed their DRM I went ahead and picked it up on Steam. I like the game I'm just not sure what they're trying to do with careers and the multiplayer stuff.


I played every campaign and every mission available (includion this first "world event")
IMHO they tried to give incentives to the players with the careers. Everytime you succesfully acomplish a mission u get a certain amount of career points that you can spend on any of the 3 fractions. The more points you have, the more "gifts" will be available. But those gifts a pretty useless, so the whole career thing makes no sense imho.

And the improved multiplayer mode is actually pretty fun. You can play COOP or VS mode with friends and random people, either do endless missions, or special multiplayer missions. I spent like 24 hours with a friend playing the most difficult mission in COOP-mode, which actually was very exciting and funny. But after beating it, there was no more challenge for me and my friend. And this first "world event" was also done in a very short time. So basically the game is now over for me. I hope they include MUCH more difficult missions, where you actually have trouble in succeeding.



Ah. I beat a mission in the campaign and it didn't unlock the next one so I'm stuck. I've started doing the world event and the single missions. I'm still pretty new to this thing and I SUCK at layouts right now but it does seem like the vast majority of things can be accomplished with enough time.


Yes, just bring enough time, and you beat every mission. Contrary to SC2 speed, and APM are not really important, which is pretty relaxing. My COOP-partner doesnt even play PC-games regulary. It was a nice change compared to sc2, where even the worst players know and execute the common strategies.


Yeah, I typically like games that challenge me a little more mechanically but being able to drink and play at the same time has always been a huge selling point for me.
#2throwed
shoryuk3n
Profile Joined January 2012
United States4 Posts
January 31 2012 18:04 GMT
#4608
This is a pretty interesting thread. Has definitely opened up my mind some
Troxle
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States486 Posts
January 31 2012 18:24 GMT
#4609
On January 31 2012 20:49 TWThoth wrote:
And on that lovely note, I have come seeking advice, and to stop lurking so much (I read this thread but I never post ; _ ; ). How do the rest of you find boyfriends/partners etc, I am kind of against using the internet for dating. This means I have to find a Boyfriend by other means, but then, what other means are there besides clubs? :S (which I am also not a big fan of)

Anyone willing to give their view-point on this?, if I really have to use one of the above methods I will, but are there other ways besides these?


I've avoided all the clubs and online datin' so far for my boyfriends. My first I kind of lucked onto, both me and my friend opened up to each other like the same day. But my other ones, my friends found for me (though they didn't last very long at all, but I have better friends now and if I really, really wanted a relationship, I could be in one today). But yeah, friends are my go to, especially my female friends.
If you're homophobic, you're probably ugly, so don't worry about a gay guy coming onto you. - jarrydesque
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 31 2012 19:47 GMT
#4610
On January 29 2012 02:04 Iyerbeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 16:20 Josketh wrote:
Thanks, kentriarch! You are awesome!

I wouldn't be afraid to date a bi-guy. I think that, like all relationships, it is built on trust.

What is more interesting to me is that concept behind transgender dating. I have a hard time fathoming myself with gal who became a guy. Though, in her mind, she was always a guy, I'm not sure how I would approach it. I'd like to say confidently that I would be open to the idea if we had mutual feelings, strong and true. Unfortunately, I cannot make a statement so definitively. It's an embarrassing thing for me to admit, but honestly, I just don't know.

This of course is not a slam on transgender folk but a post to bring awareness to the difficult world they live in. I have mad respect for anyone that goes through it all and keeps their head high.

Have you guys, straight, bi, gay, whatever, ever humored the thought? Are there any transgender people here to speak on it at all?


I shall also chime in on the trans discussion purely from a personal point of view with maybe no information that will prove useful but hopefully it'll at least provide another point of view.

But first, just to point out the statement above should read "Though, in his mind, he was always a guy, I'm not sure how I would approach it." as he was not a girl and you should use the correct pronouns when talking to or about people to avoid causing anyone feeling upset.

So yeah, on to me and dating as a straight trans woman. Since it's relevant to this thread I'd probably find it very difficult to go out with anyone who was bi for fear they ever saw or liked me for anything "male" which whilst rather petty is honestly an insecurity I don't think I'd be able to deal with. It's much the same reason I'd never date an "admirer" (the word people who're specifically in to trans people use). For completions sake I'd obviously not date a gay guy owing to you guys not being in to girls and I'd not date a lesbian owing to not really being in to other women. For any of the straight people who come through this thread to deal with misconceptions from time to time, I'm also not just a gay guy who doesn't want to be gay, sexual orientation and gender are completely unrelated.

So yeah, as we've by now established I personally find myself rather insecure in relationships, always second guessing both myself and other people and it has honestly caused problems. Other issues such as "why would he really like me when there are other girls who weren't messed up by testosterone out there?" or "why would he stay with me long term when he's giving up on the option of having biological children as a result" can cause problems and that's before even starting on the whole host of pre-op intimacy issues.

There are some steps though that I've found help with them, and the most important of which I use is never giving out my phone number or email address to anyone I meet on a personal note without them knowing I'm a trans woman. Sure it's something I'd much rather wasn't needed, but it means no chance of any relationship developing that might fail on telling people, and it means I've invested absolutely nothing in to people as friends even until I find out if they're bigots or worth my time and honestly I've found it to be quite successful. No future issues for letting people know something which I frankly consider a relatively unimportant aspect of my past just seems like good sense.

Well this post is mostly a mess of words at this point so I'm actually just going to leave it here as I don't know what else to add. Hopefully it's been an interesting insight if nothing else, and please remember all women are different, even trans ones, so nothing in this post necessarily applies to anyone else. This post is only meant in reply to the discussion.


I've been going out with my boyfriend for more than a year and a half now, and we're just a standard guy/girl couple. There is no doubt that he wants me, even over the other girls out there. I think personality wise we match up super well, and we're attracted to each other well.

In other words, he's not sacrificing things to date me, and I'm not worried about whether he/I could do better. You just have to find the right guy (which is incredibly difficult).
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Josketh
Profile Joined October 2011
United States155 Posts
January 31 2012 22:28 GMT
#4611
On February 01 2012 04:47 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 02:04 Iyerbeth wrote:
On January 28 2012 16:20 Josketh wrote:
Thanks, kentriarch! You are awesome!

I wouldn't be afraid to date a bi-guy. I think that, like all relationships, it is built on trust.

What is more interesting to me is that concept behind transgender dating. I have a hard time fathoming myself with gal who became a guy. Though, in her mind, she was always a guy, I'm not sure how I would approach it. I'd like to say confidently that I would be open to the idea if we had mutual feelings, strong and true. Unfortunately, I cannot make a statement so definitively. It's an embarrassing thing for me to admit, but honestly, I just don't know.

This of course is not a slam on transgender folk but a post to bring awareness to the difficult world they live in. I have mad respect for anyone that goes through it all and keeps their head high.

Have you guys, straight, bi, gay, whatever, ever humored the thought? Are there any transgender people here to speak on it at all?


I shall also chime in on the trans discussion purely from a personal point of view with maybe no information that will prove useful but hopefully it'll at least provide another point of view.

But first, just to point out the statement above should read "Though, in his mind, he was always a guy, I'm not sure how I would approach it." as he was not a girl and you should use the correct pronouns when talking to or about people to avoid causing anyone feeling upset.

So yeah, on to me and dating as a straight trans woman. Since it's relevant to this thread I'd probably find it very difficult to go out with anyone who was bi for fear they ever saw or liked me for anything "male" which whilst rather petty is honestly an insecurity I don't think I'd be able to deal with. It's much the same reason I'd never date an "admirer" (the word people who're specifically in to trans people use). For completions sake I'd obviously not date a gay guy owing to you guys not being in to girls and I'd not date a lesbian owing to not really being in to other women. For any of the straight people who come through this thread to deal with misconceptions from time to time, I'm also not just a gay guy who doesn't want to be gay, sexual orientation and gender are completely unrelated.

So yeah, as we've by now established I personally find myself rather insecure in relationships, always second guessing both myself and other people and it has honestly caused problems. Other issues such as "why would he really like me when there are other girls who weren't messed up by testosterone out there?" or "why would he stay with me long term when he's giving up on the option of having biological children as a result" can cause problems and that's before even starting on the whole host of pre-op intimacy issues.

There are some steps though that I've found help with them, and the most important of which I use is never giving out my phone number or email address to anyone I meet on a personal note without them knowing I'm a trans woman. Sure it's something I'd much rather wasn't needed, but it means no chance of any relationship developing that might fail on telling people, and it means I've invested absolutely nothing in to people as friends even until I find out if they're bigots or worth my time and honestly I've found it to be quite successful. No future issues for letting people know something which I frankly consider a relatively unimportant aspect of my past just seems like good sense.

Well this post is mostly a mess of words at this point so I'm actually just going to leave it here as I don't know what else to add. Hopefully it's been an interesting insight if nothing else, and please remember all women are different, even trans ones, so nothing in this post necessarily applies to anyone else. This post is only meant in reply to the discussion.


I've been going out with my boyfriend for more than a year and a half now, and we're just a standard guy/girl couple. There is no doubt that he wants me, even over the other girls out there. I think personality wise we match up super well, and we're attracted to each other well.

In other words, he's not sacrificing things to date me, and I'm not worried about whether he/I could do better. You just have to find the right guy (which is incredibly difficult).


Upon further reflection, I've realized that the thing holding my mind back was trying to understand that though born physical a male, the person IS female. I never trivialized the concept or thought it was a silly choice to be made..but i think it is better that I just accept that I won't understand it. I'll never be in those shoes so I don't need to analyze and try to make it work in my head.

You are you. That is all I need to know. :D

In other news:

I am of the same sort. Since I am allergic to alcohol and I don't like being around drunk people for really long amounts of time, I tend to steer clear of bars...unless there is a dance floor. I also don't really trust internet dating though I have seen some really successful results in lives of a few of my friends. I guess I just decided to not worry about it and let it happen when it is supposed to happen. I'm not in a rush.
Craft naked.
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
January 31 2012 22:50 GMT
#4612
On February 01 2012 07:28 Josketh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 04:47 fusionsdf wrote:
On January 29 2012 02:04 Iyerbeth wrote:
On January 28 2012 16:20 Josketh wrote:
Thanks, kentriarch! You are awesome!

I wouldn't be afraid to date a bi-guy. I think that, like all relationships, it is built on trust.

What is more interesting to me is that concept behind transgender dating. I have a hard time fathoming myself with gal who became a guy. Though, in her mind, she was always a guy, I'm not sure how I would approach it. I'd like to say confidently that I would be open to the idea if we had mutual feelings, strong and true. Unfortunately, I cannot make a statement so definitively. It's an embarrassing thing for me to admit, but honestly, I just don't know.

This of course is not a slam on transgender folk but a post to bring awareness to the difficult world they live in. I have mad respect for anyone that goes through it all and keeps their head high.

Have you guys, straight, bi, gay, whatever, ever humored the thought? Are there any transgender people here to speak on it at all?


I shall also chime in on the trans discussion purely from a personal point of view with maybe no information that will prove useful but hopefully it'll at least provide another point of view.

But first, just to point out the statement above should read "Though, in his mind, he was always a guy, I'm not sure how I would approach it." as he was not a girl and you should use the correct pronouns when talking to or about people to avoid causing anyone feeling upset.

So yeah, on to me and dating as a straight trans woman. Since it's relevant to this thread I'd probably find it very difficult to go out with anyone who was bi for fear they ever saw or liked me for anything "male" which whilst rather petty is honestly an insecurity I don't think I'd be able to deal with. It's much the same reason I'd never date an "admirer" (the word people who're specifically in to trans people use). For completions sake I'd obviously not date a gay guy owing to you guys not being in to girls and I'd not date a lesbian owing to not really being in to other women. For any of the straight people who come through this thread to deal with misconceptions from time to time, I'm also not just a gay guy who doesn't want to be gay, sexual orientation and gender are completely unrelated.

So yeah, as we've by now established I personally find myself rather insecure in relationships, always second guessing both myself and other people and it has honestly caused problems. Other issues such as "why would he really like me when there are other girls who weren't messed up by testosterone out there?" or "why would he stay with me long term when he's giving up on the option of having biological children as a result" can cause problems and that's before even starting on the whole host of pre-op intimacy issues.

There are some steps though that I've found help with them, and the most important of which I use is never giving out my phone number or email address to anyone I meet on a personal note without them knowing I'm a trans woman. Sure it's something I'd much rather wasn't needed, but it means no chance of any relationship developing that might fail on telling people, and it means I've invested absolutely nothing in to people as friends even until I find out if they're bigots or worth my time and honestly I've found it to be quite successful. No future issues for letting people know something which I frankly consider a relatively unimportant aspect of my past just seems like good sense.

Well this post is mostly a mess of words at this point so I'm actually just going to leave it here as I don't know what else to add. Hopefully it's been an interesting insight if nothing else, and please remember all women are different, even trans ones, so nothing in this post necessarily applies to anyone else. This post is only meant in reply to the discussion.


I've been going out with my boyfriend for more than a year and a half now, and we're just a standard guy/girl couple. There is no doubt that he wants me, even over the other girls out there. I think personality wise we match up super well, and we're attracted to each other well.

In other words, he's not sacrificing things to date me, and I'm not worried about whether he/I could do better. You just have to find the right guy (which is incredibly difficult).


Upon further reflection, I've realized that the thing holding my mind back was trying to understand that though born physical a male, the person IS female. I never trivialized the concept or thought it was a silly choice to be made..but i think it is better that I just accept that I won't understand it. I'll never be in those shoes so I don't need to analyze and try to make it work in my head.

You are you. That is all I need to know. :D

In other news:

I am of the same sort. Since I am allergic to alcohol and I don't like being around drunk people for really long amounts of time, I tend to steer clear of bars...unless there is a dance floor. I also don't really trust internet dating though I have seen some really successful results in lives of a few of my friends. I guess I just decided to not worry about it and let it happen when it is supposed to happen. I'm not in a rush.


ALCOHOL ALLERGY?! That is a worse affliction than cancer! I'm allergic to something in Sam Adam's winter lager and even an allergy to one kind of beer made me want to cry. All the heartbreak I can muster goes out to you. A fate worse than death *hangs head*
#2throwed
Troxle
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States486 Posts
January 31 2012 23:34 GMT
#4613
On February 01 2012 07:50 Klondikebar wrote:
ALCOHOL ALLERGY?! That is a worse affliction than cancer! I'm allergic to something in Sam Adam's winter lager and even an allergy to one kind of beer made me want to cry. All the heartbreak I can muster goes out to you. A fate worse than death *hangs head*


I could live with that. I don't drink that much as is...

Doesn't the Winter Lager use nutmeg in it? I enjoy Sam Adams Winterfest, but if I remember correctly the Winter Lager has nutmeg so I won't drink it anyways! Maybe that is what is causin' the allergen for you Klondikebar?
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Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 00:24:19
February 01 2012 00:16 GMT
#4614
On February 01 2012 08:34 Troxle wrote:
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On February 01 2012 07:50 Klondikebar wrote:
ALCOHOL ALLERGY?! That is a worse affliction than cancer! I'm allergic to something in Sam Adam's winter lager and even an allergy to one kind of beer made me want to cry. All the heartbreak I can muster goes out to you. A fate worse than death *hangs head*


I could live with that. I don't drink that much as is...

Doesn't the Winter Lager use nutmeg in it? I enjoy Sam Adams Winterfest, but if I remember correctly the Winter Lager has nutmeg so I won't drink it anyways! Maybe that is what is causin' the allergen for you Klondikebar?


Yeah it doesn't taste very good. I was just upset that any alcoholic beverage wouldn't play nice with me. I'm not sure what ingredient it is but between the fact that I don't drink much beer and it's probably a really random ingredient I'm not exactly living in fear of hops.

Josketh, I will always have an extra drink just for you my fallen comrade.
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Axero
Profile Joined September 2011
United States307 Posts
February 01 2012 05:14 GMT
#4615
On February 01 2012 09:16 Klondikebar wrote:
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On February 01 2012 08:34 Troxle wrote:
On February 01 2012 07:50 Klondikebar wrote:
ALCOHOL ALLERGY?! That is a worse affliction than cancer! I'm allergic to something in Sam Adam's winter lager and even an allergy to one kind of beer made me want to cry. All the heartbreak I can muster goes out to you. A fate worse than death *hangs head*


I could live with that. I don't drink that much as is...

Doesn't the Winter Lager use nutmeg in it? I enjoy Sam Adams Winterfest, but if I remember correctly the Winter Lager has nutmeg so I won't drink it anyways! Maybe that is what is causin' the allergen for you Klondikebar?


Yeah it doesn't taste very good. I was just upset that any alcoholic beverage wouldn't play nice with me. I'm not sure what ingredient it is but between the fact that I don't drink much beer and it's probably a really random ingredient I'm not exactly living in fear of hops.

Josketh, I will always have an extra drink just for you my fallen comrade.


While on the topic of alcoholic drinks, what is everyone's preference while drinking? I prefer liquor to beer, not too picky when it comes to specifically what kind of drink, but i love whiskey.
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kentriarch
Profile Joined January 2012
Singapore61 Posts
February 01 2012 05:16 GMT
#4616
For beer: Hefeweizen > Wheat beer > all other beer > Bud light

For liquor: Whiskey/Scotch > all other alcohol
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
February 01 2012 08:16 GMT
#4617
On February 01 2012 07:28 Josketh wrote:
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On February 01 2012 04:47 fusionsdf wrote:
On January 29 2012 02:04 Iyerbeth wrote:
On January 28 2012 16:20 Josketh wrote:
Thanks, kentriarch! You are awesome!

I wouldn't be afraid to date a bi-guy. I think that, like all relationships, it is built on trust.

What is more interesting to me is that concept behind transgender dating. I have a hard time fathoming myself with gal who became a guy. Though, in her mind, she was always a guy, I'm not sure how I would approach it. I'd like to say confidently that I would be open to the idea if we had mutual feelings, strong and true. Unfortunately, I cannot make a statement so definitively. It's an embarrassing thing for me to admit, but honestly, I just don't know.

This of course is not a slam on transgender folk but a post to bring awareness to the difficult world they live in. I have mad respect for anyone that goes through it all and keeps their head high.

Have you guys, straight, bi, gay, whatever, ever humored the thought? Are there any transgender people here to speak on it at all?


I shall also chime in on the trans discussion purely from a personal point of view with maybe no information that will prove useful but hopefully it'll at least provide another point of view.

But first, just to point out the statement above should read "Though, in his mind, he was always a guy, I'm not sure how I would approach it." as he was not a girl and you should use the correct pronouns when talking to or about people to avoid causing anyone feeling upset.

So yeah, on to me and dating as a straight trans woman. Since it's relevant to this thread I'd probably find it very difficult to go out with anyone who was bi for fear they ever saw or liked me for anything "male" which whilst rather petty is honestly an insecurity I don't think I'd be able to deal with. It's much the same reason I'd never date an "admirer" (the word people who're specifically in to trans people use). For completions sake I'd obviously not date a gay guy owing to you guys not being in to girls and I'd not date a lesbian owing to not really being in to other women. For any of the straight people who come through this thread to deal with misconceptions from time to time, I'm also not just a gay guy who doesn't want to be gay, sexual orientation and gender are completely unrelated.

So yeah, as we've by now established I personally find myself rather insecure in relationships, always second guessing both myself and other people and it has honestly caused problems. Other issues such as "why would he really like me when there are other girls who weren't messed up by testosterone out there?" or "why would he stay with me long term when he's giving up on the option of having biological children as a result" can cause problems and that's before even starting on the whole host of pre-op intimacy issues.

There are some steps though that I've found help with them, and the most important of which I use is never giving out my phone number or email address to anyone I meet on a personal note without them knowing I'm a trans woman. Sure it's something I'd much rather wasn't needed, but it means no chance of any relationship developing that might fail on telling people, and it means I've invested absolutely nothing in to people as friends even until I find out if they're bigots or worth my time and honestly I've found it to be quite successful. No future issues for letting people know something which I frankly consider a relatively unimportant aspect of my past just seems like good sense.

Well this post is mostly a mess of words at this point so I'm actually just going to leave it here as I don't know what else to add. Hopefully it's been an interesting insight if nothing else, and please remember all women are different, even trans ones, so nothing in this post necessarily applies to anyone else. This post is only meant in reply to the discussion.


I've been going out with my boyfriend for more than a year and a half now, and we're just a standard guy/girl couple. There is no doubt that he wants me, even over the other girls out there. I think personality wise we match up super well, and we're attracted to each other well.

In other words, he's not sacrificing things to date me, and I'm not worried about whether he/I could do better. You just have to find the right guy (which is incredibly difficult).


Upon further reflection, I've realized that the thing holding my mind back was trying to understand that though born physical a male, the person IS female. I never trivialized the concept or thought it was a silly choice to be made..but i think it is better that I just accept that I won't understand it. I'll never be in those shoes so I don't need to analyze and try to make it work in my head.

You are you. That is all I need to know. :D

In other news:

I am of the same sort. Since I am allergic to alcohol and I don't like being around drunk people for really long amounts of time, I tend to steer clear of bars...unless there is a dance floor. I also don't really trust internet dating though I have seen some really successful results in lives of a few of my friends. I guess I just decided to not worry about it and let it happen when it is supposed to happen. I'm not in a rush.


I don't think a cis (non-trans) person can easily understand it, since they take their innate sense of gender for granted. But what makes you happy/content on a basic level with being a man has nothing to do with your brain. I mean have you ever wondered exactly why you are content being a man?

If you look at the studies - here is one accessable video from a course on Human Sexuality from Stanford University


(and there are many others I can link to if people are interested), you can see there is quite a bit of evidence suggesting it is due to physical differences in brain stucture (in the case of a trans woman a feminized brain, and in the case of a trans man a masculinized brain).

The end result is that you couldn't choose to live the rest of your life as a woman (without being absolutely suicidal/depressed/insomniac/miserable) anymore than I could choose to live it as a man.
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Josketh
Profile Joined October 2011
United States155 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 08:42:09
February 01 2012 08:40 GMT
#4618
Exactly. I don't think someone would spend so much time, money, and emotion on a choice to become the opposite sex. It is more like changing your external to match the internal, not some whimsical decision. Trans men are men and trans women are women. That's how I should see it, ya?

Also, I have low inhibitions and all that without needing a drink. So the concept of drunk exists 100% in my life without the need to consume. I got another shocking fun fact: I hate making out. I think it is one of the nastiest things a person can do with another person. I got tons of odd quirks.
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Wootman
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden3 Posts
February 01 2012 09:18 GMT
#4619
I felt bad when i read the post. It's so sad that you don't live in sweden. Here, being gay is like having automatic success and everybody respects you. Atleast in my town. Im not gay, but i wish i where (when looking at my friends that are gay).

Don't really have a question,
but much love and respect for being open!
Hope your country will become more open for homosexuality. <3
jarrydesque
Profile Joined November 2010
584 Posts
February 01 2012 11:48 GMT
#4620
On February 01 2012 17:40 Josketh wrote:
Exactly. I don't think someone would spend so much time, money, and emotion on a choice to become the opposite sex. It is more like changing your external to match the internal, not some whimsical decision. Trans men are men and trans women are women. That's how I should see it, ya?

Also, I have low inhibitions and all that without needing a drink. So the concept of drunk exists 100% in my life without the need to consume. I got another shocking fun fact: I hate making out. I think it is one of the nastiest things a person can do with another person. I got tons of odd quirks.


Err, do you mean "making out" as in like kissing? Or everything except sex? Either way, that is pretty strange. Only thing I can really say is that I remember a stage where I didn't like getting head, but it turned out that none of the guys knew how to do it properly. Maybe it's the people.
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