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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 11 2010 17:52 GMT
#4021
On December 12 2010 02:24 Sinep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2010 00:56 eshlow wrote:
On December 11 2010 22:52 Sinep wrote:
I have a question about training frequency. Currently, I have 3 different workouts I do, and I do each one the 5th day from the last. Lately though, I feel my benchpress is really plateuing and I can't make progress in it, should I switch all my workouts to once a week instead? Diet wise, I've been testing out IF for closer to 3 weeks now.


1. What's your height/weight
2. What are your lift numbers
3. What are your routines
4. Are you sure you're getting enough food?


185cm, 75kg, approx 10-11% bf.

Lifts: been doing 5x5 in pretty much everything, bench is currently at 72.5kg (although I did not manage 5x5 of this today). I deloaded a bunch of weight on squats and deadlift in favour of better technique and rebuilding up, so currently squats are at 70kg 5x5 but increasing 2.5kg every week with no problem atm and deadlift is 100kg 5x5, shouldn't be a problem to increase there either.

as for food, yeah, I'm pretty sure I've been getting enough food, although I haven't been counting calories. Started drinking a bunch of milk in my IF feed window now as well to try bulking again.

my friend recommends I change my workout days to once a week now instead of once every 5 days, claiming this isn't enough time to recover properly at this stage for me, what's your take?


You need more frequency per lift. Generally why i don'r recommend splits for anyone unless you're over 2x bodyweight on core lifts and/or play a sport(s).

Are you doing each lift once a week? Not going to make much progress 1x a week after you hit a certain point.

Reason why SS is good is becauase you're squatting 3x a week + getting bench + press combo 3x a week (avg 1.5x each week).
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
December 11 2010 17:55 GMT
#4022
Anyone have an educated and up-to-date say about eggs and cholesterol?
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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 18:06:45
December 11 2010 18:04 GMT
#4023
On December 12 2010 02:55 rEiGN~ wrote:
Anyone have an educated and up-to-date say about eggs and cholesterol?


Don't worry about it, eat your whole eggs and enjoy them

EDIT:

Today's workout:

BB Squat: 70kg x 8, 80kg x 5 and 90kg x 10 (Squats coming along quite nicely)
Leg Press: 5 sets of 200kg x 10 (5 reps less than last time but +30kg!)
More dragonflag practicing, keep breaking at the hips on those
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 11 2010 18:20 GMT
#4024
On December 12 2010 02:55 rEiGN~ wrote:
Anyone have an educated and up-to-date say about eggs and cholesterol?

healthy

Just dont eat with any wheat/grain products
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
December 11 2010 18:29 GMT
#4025
Awesome workout yesterday!
.
60kg Bench Press 3x5
100kg Deadlift 1x5
95kg Squat 3x5
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 18:39:07
December 11 2010 18:38 GMT
#4026
doublepost sorryh
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
December 11 2010 18:58 GMT
#4027
On December 12 2010 03:20 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2010 02:55 rEiGN~ wrote:
Anyone have an educated and up-to-date say about eggs and cholesterol?

healthy

Just dont eat with any wheat/grain products


Even in "large" quantities, say, 3 eggs a day?
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 11 2010 19:05 GMT
#4028
Finally did 3x5 195 lb bench yesterday, was supposed to hit that about a month ago.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 11 2010 19:11 GMT
#4029
On December 12 2010 03:58 rEiGN~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2010 03:20 eshlow wrote:
On December 12 2010 02:55 rEiGN~ wrote:
Anyone have an educated and up-to-date say about eggs and cholesterol?

healthy

Just dont eat with any wheat/grain products


Even in "large" quantities, say, 3 eggs a day?


lol, large quantities of 3?

I and many others I know eat at least 5-6 per day. Couple people I know do 8-12+

Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 11 2010 19:32 GMT
#4030
Why was it that eggs and grains didn't go well together?
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
December 11 2010 19:43 GMT
#4031
On December 12 2010 02:52 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2010 02:24 Sinep wrote:
On December 12 2010 00:56 eshlow wrote:
On December 11 2010 22:52 Sinep wrote:
I have a question about training frequency. Currently, I have 3 different workouts I do, and I do each one the 5th day from the last. Lately though, I feel my benchpress is really plateuing and I can't make progress in it, should I switch all my workouts to once a week instead? Diet wise, I've been testing out IF for closer to 3 weeks now.


1. What's your height/weight
2. What are your lift numbers
3. What are your routines
4. Are you sure you're getting enough food?


185cm, 75kg, approx 10-11% bf.

Lifts: been doing 5x5 in pretty much everything, bench is currently at 72.5kg (although I did not manage 5x5 of this today). I deloaded a bunch of weight on squats and deadlift in favour of better technique and rebuilding up, so currently squats are at 70kg 5x5 but increasing 2.5kg every week with no problem atm and deadlift is 100kg 5x5, shouldn't be a problem to increase there either.

as for food, yeah, I'm pretty sure I've been getting enough food, although I haven't been counting calories. Started drinking a bunch of milk in my IF feed window now as well to try bulking again.

my friend recommends I change my workout days to once a week now instead of once every 5 days, claiming this isn't enough time to recover properly at this stage for me, what's your take?


You need more frequency per lift. Generally why i don'r recommend splits for anyone unless you're over 2x bodyweight on core lifts and/or play a sport(s).

Are you doing each lift once a week? Not going to make much progress 1x a week after you hit a certain point.

Reason why SS is good is becauase you're squatting 3x a week + getting bench + press combo 3x a week (avg 1.5x each week).


really? that's interesting, I thought if you increased frequency you would just screw yourself over cause you need more time to rest once you pass a certain point.
bench and squats are on the same workout day, chinups and some others on workout day, and deadlift/ab work on the third. since they are once every 5 days it equates to 4.5 workouts a week, so some lifts can be said to be done twice in the same week while others will not
BcGladiator
Profile Joined July 2010
United States58 Posts
December 11 2010 19:59 GMT
#4032
Hey guys can you critique my workout, it seems like there are a lot of knowledgeable people in here that can help a relative noob like me

Day 1: Legs/Shoulders
Squats
Leg Extensions
Leg Curls
Leg Press
Military Press
Front and Lateral Raises

Day 2: Chest/Tri
Bench Press
Incline Bench
Decline Bench
Skull Crushers
Tri-Extensions

Day 3: Back/Bi
Curls
Lat Pulldowns
Seated Rows
Bent Over Rows

I usually try to just do 3 sets with 10, 8, 6 reps while increasing weight with each set. Feel free to recommend me different exercises or scrap ones that I have

PS. If this is retarded and I should just do the workouts recommended in the OP don't hesitate to say so haha
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 11 2010 20:00 GMT
#4033
On December 12 2010 04:32 sJarl wrote:
Why was it that eggs and grains didn't go well together?


Allergies:

http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?cat=57

On December 12 2010 04:43 Sinep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2010 02:52 eshlow wrote:
On December 12 2010 02:24 Sinep wrote:
On December 12 2010 00:56 eshlow wrote:
On December 11 2010 22:52 Sinep wrote:
I have a question about training frequency. Currently, I have 3 different workouts I do, and I do each one the 5th day from the last. Lately though, I feel my benchpress is really plateuing and I can't make progress in it, should I switch all my workouts to once a week instead? Diet wise, I've been testing out IF for closer to 3 weeks now.


1. What's your height/weight
2. What are your lift numbers
3. What are your routines
4. Are you sure you're getting enough food?


185cm, 75kg, approx 10-11% bf.

Lifts: been doing 5x5 in pretty much everything, bench is currently at 72.5kg (although I did not manage 5x5 of this today). I deloaded a bunch of weight on squats and deadlift in favour of better technique and rebuilding up, so currently squats are at 70kg 5x5 but increasing 2.5kg every week with no problem atm and deadlift is 100kg 5x5, shouldn't be a problem to increase there either.

as for food, yeah, I'm pretty sure I've been getting enough food, although I haven't been counting calories. Started drinking a bunch of milk in my IF feed window now as well to try bulking again.

my friend recommends I change my workout days to once a week now instead of once every 5 days, claiming this isn't enough time to recover properly at this stage for me, what's your take?


You need more frequency per lift. Generally why i don'r recommend splits for anyone unless you're over 2x bodyweight on core lifts and/or play a sport(s).

Are you doing each lift once a week? Not going to make much progress 1x a week after you hit a certain point.

Reason why SS is good is becauase you're squatting 3x a week + getting bench + press combo 3x a week (avg 1.5x each week).


really? that's interesting, I thought if you increased frequency you would just screw yourself over cause you need more time to rest once you pass a certain point.
bench and squats are on the same workout day, chinups and some others on workout day, and deadlift/ab work on the third. since they are once every 5 days it equates to 4.5 workouts a week, so some lifts can be said to be done twice in the same week while others will not

Increase freq is only a problem if there's increased workload.

Soemthing like SS where you're 3x a week with only 3-4 exercises per workout is fairly easy to recover from.

4-5x a week full body is less likely to recover from unelss you have good conditioning level.

Again, I have no clue what you're actually doing so its hard to say. If you're on some sort of split would say just to drop it and go with a full body routine 3x a week.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 20:01:40
December 11 2010 20:00 GMT
#4034
On December 12 2010 04:59 BcGladiator wrote:
Hey guys can you critique my workout, it seems like there are a lot of knowledgeable people in here that can help a relative noob like me
+ Show Spoiler +

Day 1: Legs/Shoulders
Squats
Leg Extensions
Leg Curls
Leg Press
Military Press
Front and Lateral Raises

Day 2: Chest/Tri
Bench Press
Incline Bench
Decline Bench
Skull Crushers
Tri-Extensions

Day 3: Back/Bi
Curls
Lat Pulldowns
Seated Rows
Bent Over Rows

I usually try to just do 3 sets with 10, 8, 6 reps while increasing weight with each set. Feel free to recommend me different exercises or scrap ones that I have


PS. If this is retarded and I should just do the workouts recommended in the OP don't hesitate to say so haha


If you're new you should be doing full body work.

SS or any variant on that is fine. SS tends to get better results compared to most other beginner programs so that's why I recommend it.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 20:19:03
December 11 2010 20:17 GMT
#4035
On December 12 2010 02:55 rEiGN~ wrote:
Anyone have an educated and up-to-date say about eggs and cholesterol?

If you're not eating pastured eggs you will probably need to supplement with fish oil/cod liver oil to balance the omega 6's with 3's in the eggs. Unless you're getting it from another source such as wild caught fish or grass fed beef/pasture meat. From what I remember eggs should have about 600 mg of omega 3 fatty acids to balance with the 6's in it. Cholesterol is not the problem with eggs.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
December 11 2010 20:19 GMT
#4036
On December 12 2010 04:59 BcGladiator wrote:
Hey guys can you critique my workout, it seems like there are a lot of knowledgeable people in here that can help a relative noob like me
+ Show Spoiler +

Day 1: Legs/Shoulders
Squats
Leg Extensions
Leg Curls
Leg Press
Military Press
Front and Lateral Raises

Day 2: Chest/Tri
Bench Press
Incline Bench
Decline Bench
Skull Crushers
Tri-Extensions

Day 3: Back/Bi
Curls
Lat Pulldowns
Seated Rows
Bent Over Rows

I usually try to just do 3 sets with 10, 8, 6 reps while increasing weight with each set. Feel free to recommend me different exercises or scrap ones that I have

PS. If this is retarded and I should just do the workouts recommended in the OP don't hesitate to say so haha


You're already learning so fast
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 20:28:53
December 11 2010 20:28 GMT
#4037
On December 12 2010 04:59 BcGladiator wrote:
Hey guys can you critique my workout, it seems like there are a lot of knowledgeable people in here that can help a relative noob like me

+ Show Spoiler +
Day 1: Legs/Shoulders
Squats
Leg Extensions
Leg Curls
Leg Press
Military Press
Front and Lateral Raises

Day 2: Chest/Tri
Bench Press
Incline Bench
Decline Bench
Skull Crushers
Tri-Extensions

Day 3: Back/Bi
Curls
Lat Pulldowns
Seated Rows
Bent Over Rows


I usually try to just do 3 sets with 10, 8, 6 reps while increasing weight with each set. Feel free to recommend me different exercises or scrap ones that I have

PS. If this is retarded and I should just do the workouts recommended in the OP don't hesitate to say so haha


On the leg / shoulder day: I'd do the leg press before leg curls and leg extensions

On the chest / tri day: I'd drop the skull crushers and tri-extensions and do dips and close grip bench press.

On the back / bi day: I'd do deadlifts to start the session off followed by pullups and bb rows. Finishing up with db rows. Then you can curl

Edit: or you could do SS and save yourself a whole lot of trouble
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 11 2010 20:44 GMT
#4038
On a side note: how many of you do specific work for the rotator cuff?
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 20:47:08
December 11 2010 20:45 GMT
#4039
lately ive been getting cramps in my jaw

like for the last few months, every once in a while
they generally stick around for maybe an hour, and hit suddenly for a few seconds at a time

often times if they are happening and i try to eat something my jaw will go absolutely crazy with pain

it's on the back/bottom of my jaw only on the left side

they are incredibly painful

wtf is the deal!

tl speculative diagnosis team go!




it's happening right now i have food on a plate on my lap and i can't fucking eat it

i just tried to take a real tiny bite and it hurt so bad i had to just slack my jaw and let the food drop out of my mouth lol
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 20:56:00
December 11 2010 20:54 GMT
#4040
u know the weirdest thing is that i can just act like im chewing food and it won't necessarily cramp up

but as soon as i even fucking take a tiny bit of real food it cramps up immediately




well, maybe it's passed now. *tries to eat his food*


edit: no it hasn't. i just picked up my plate of food and fucking LOOKED AT IT and my jaw started cramping

wtf is going on?? this is the weirdest shit in the world
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