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ludic123
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway161 Posts
December 10 2010 19:40 GMT
#4001
Eshlow, what are your views on stretching? I realize I need a lot of flexibility if I wanna go for gymnastic exercises like planche, manna and all that good stuff.
To elaborate a little bit, I'm most curious about how long I should stretch each muscle, and if there's disadvantages to stretching with my back arched vs. straight. Stuff like that. I'm a total noobie, so any advice is much appreciated.

Also, after I've done the frog planche, I get pains and a sense of stiffness in the middle of my back. Is this just a result of me not working out at all for a few years, or should I just refrain from planche alltogether?
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
December 10 2010 20:42 GMT
#4002
Thanks Slithe & Funkie. I guess with the barbel it's closer to 25-30 kg which is more reasonable. My arms aren't trained and I use my legs a LOT more than my arms. I biked to fucking france from denmark (1400+ km) without too many problems.
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 21:22:06
December 10 2010 21:20 GMT
#4003
ok.. this is the most nuts amazing stuff i have ever seen
is this lady really human?



watched this before my workout im pretty sure i'll have to beast it today

high manna at 8:10 ! omfg
InsertUsername
Profile Joined December 2010
12 Posts
December 10 2010 23:36 GMT
#4004
Good evening Team Liquid, posting my goal:

qualifying for Hawaii Ironman in my age-group

must not be lazy with my winter training this year
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 11 2010 02:30 GMT
#4005
On December 11 2010 04:40 ludic123 wrote:
Eshlow, what are your views on stretching? I realize I need a lot of flexibility if I wanna go for gymnastic exercises like planche, manna and all that good stuff.
To elaborate a little bit, I'm most curious about how long I should stretch each muscle, and if there's disadvantages to stretching with my back arched vs. straight. Stuff like that. I'm a total noobie, so any advice is much appreciated.

Also, after I've done the frog planche, I get pains and a sense of stiffness in the middle of my back. Is this just a result of me not working out at all for a few years, or should I just refrain from planche alltogether?


i'd stick in the stretches 'til you feel you're getting noticable lengthening and then hang out an extra 10-15 seconds. For stuff like german hangs it doesnt matter what the body position is. Most specific stretches will have a certain body position you're in anyway so it doesn't matter as long as you're getting the associated mobility/flexibility.

Stiffness in the middle of the back tends to be not keepign the shoulders protracted and allowed the shoulder blades to sink backwards. It's a sign of a weak back + poor form in the planche.

Work some serratus pushups and keeping the shoulder protracted during that exercise + more horizontal pulling strength work.


On December 11 2010 06:20 travis wrote:
ok.. this is the most nuts amazing stuff i have ever seen
is this lady really human?

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6RhHCi8TJ8&feature=player_embedded


watched this before my workout im pretty sure i'll have to beast it today

high manna at 8:10 ! omfg


Most equilibrists are crazzzzzzzzy. Super good shoulder flexibility.

Think I've seen that one before.

One of my friends keeps a page of vids like this stuff:
http://kinesthesist.blogspot.com/
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
December 11 2010 03:26 GMT
#4006
Managed to put out 5 reps at a 130kg on squats.

My goal was 140kg by February. I'm pretty sure I'll achieve that early January, if not by the end of the year.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
December 11 2010 03:54 GMT
#4007
On December 11 2010 12:26 Energies wrote:
Managed to put out 5 reps at a 130kg on squats.

My goal was 140kg by February. I'm pretty sure I'll achieve that early January, if not by the end of the year.


Holy crap last I checked you were doing 110kg.

Beastly.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
December 11 2010 03:57 GMT
#4008
motherfuckers almost repping 3 plates. Energies and shallow and rosa are going to beat me up soon


And GL to dimsum at the american open for weightlifting this weekend :D
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
December 11 2010 04:39 GMT
#4009
On December 11 2010 12:57 decafchicken wrote:
motherfuckers almost repping 3 plates. Energies and shallow and rosa are going to beat me up soon


It'd take all three of us and a bat to stand a chance.
daz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada643 Posts
December 11 2010 05:28 GMT
#4010
On December 10 2010 17:09 Weird wrote:
hey dudes, anyone here done P90X??? Thoughts? Sorry if this has been covered in the previous 200 pages.


I'm actually just finishing up a run of p90x and I have to say that it was worked shockingly well. I'm less than 2 weeks away from finishing and so far I've lost almost 25 lbs of pretty much all bodyfat, which is great for me because I wasn't even super overweight to begin with, I was sitting at around 20% bodyfat and now I'm probably at like 12% or maybe even lower. Can see more of my abs then I've ever seen before in my life and almost have a full sixpack, I'm even surprised at how well its gone considering I didn't even do the program perfectly, skipped a few days, took probably like 2 weeks or more of breaks inbetween, and my diet wasn't perfect either. If you're looking to lose weight and get in shape I highly recommend it, however don't buy into all the 'muslce confusion' bullshit they sell you in the ads, if gaining muscle is what you want, Starting Strength will give you twice the results for half the effort and time spent, if not even better.

Also don't waste your money on their shakes and supplements, you can get any multi vitamin for way less money and make your own shake which will be more efffective and cost a fraction of the price. Pm me if you want more details.
Some eat to remember, some smash to forget. 2009msl.com
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
December 11 2010 07:16 GMT
#4011
My bench is still only 70kg. Not even 1xBW.

I'm going to negate all my progress tonight. Holding the boys Christmas party at my place.

6 of us, 6x24 boxes of beer, cider for me. 3 Bottles of Jack. $300 worth of food.

When next you hear from me, I'll be getting my stomach pumped.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 07:18:47
December 11 2010 07:18 GMT
#4012
lol gross

dude have fun but don't take it that far LOL


see now that's why weed rules

u can drink half as much, add weed to the equation, and it's way better anyways
Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
December 11 2010 10:04 GMT
#4013
Maybe, but you also run the danger of chowing down like there's no fucking tomorrow.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 11 2010 12:16 GMT
#4014
On December 11 2010 13:39 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2010 12:57 decafchicken wrote:
motherfuckers almost repping 3 plates. Energies and shallow and rosa are going to beat me up soon


It'd take all three of us and a bat to stand a chance.


let's just keep deadlifting until we can do it with our bare hands
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 15:10:37
December 11 2010 13:52 GMT
#4015
I have a question about training frequency. Currently, I have 3 different workouts I do, and I do each one the 5th day from the last. Lately though, I feel my benchpress is really plateuing and I can't make progress in it, should I switch all my workouts to once a week instead? Diet wise, I've been testing out IF for closer to 3 weeks now.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 11 2010 15:56 GMT
#4016
On December 11 2010 22:52 Sinep wrote:
I have a question about training frequency. Currently, I have 3 different workouts I do, and I do each one the 5th day from the last. Lately though, I feel my benchpress is really plateuing and I can't make progress in it, should I switch all my workouts to once a week instead? Diet wise, I've been testing out IF for closer to 3 weeks now.


1. What's your height/weight
2. What are your lift numbers
3. What are your routines
4. Are you sure you're getting enough food?
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 11 2010 16:17 GMT
#4017
possibly nsfw:

+ Show Spoiler +



*droool*
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Koagel
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria167 Posts
December 11 2010 16:32 GMT
#4018
On December 12 2010 01:17 sJarl wrote:
possibly nsfw:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15gH76NtdV8&feature=related



*droool*

The crowd is on the wrong side.
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
December 11 2010 17:24 GMT
#4019
On December 12 2010 00:56 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2010 22:52 Sinep wrote:
I have a question about training frequency. Currently, I have 3 different workouts I do, and I do each one the 5th day from the last. Lately though, I feel my benchpress is really plateuing and I can't make progress in it, should I switch all my workouts to once a week instead? Diet wise, I've been testing out IF for closer to 3 weeks now.


1. What's your height/weight
2. What are your lift numbers
3. What are your routines
4. Are you sure you're getting enough food?


185cm, 75kg, approx 10-11% bf.

Lifts: been doing 5x5 in pretty much everything, bench is currently at 72.5kg (although I did not manage 5x5 of this today). I deloaded a bunch of weight on squats and deadlift in favour of better technique and rebuilding up, so currently squats are at 70kg 5x5 but increasing 2.5kg every week with no problem atm and deadlift is 100kg 5x5, shouldn't be a problem to increase there either.

as for food, yeah, I'm pretty sure I've been getting enough food, although I haven't been counting calories. Started drinking a bunch of milk in my IF feed window now as well to try bulking again.

my friend recommends I change my workout days to once a week now instead of once every 5 days, claiming this isn't enough time to recover properly at this stage for me, what's your take?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 11 2010 17:47 GMT
#4020
On December 12 2010 01:17 sJarl wrote:
possibly nsfw:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15gH76NtdV8&feature=related



*droool*


Haha... How about some hand balancers then?

+ Show Spoiler +
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